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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / April 2008

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Competition for Hensely Hitch - ProPride

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ratatouillerat@yahoo.com - 08 Apr 2008 22:53 GMT
http://www.propridehitch.com/

Pete
ratatouillerat@yahoo.com - 08 Apr 2008 23:32 GMT
>http://www.propridehitch.com/
>
>Pete

More from RV.NET poster:

"In a nutshell: Former VP of Hensley left Hensley last July, along
with the original inventor of the hitch, Jim Hensley. The two of them
formed their own company, ProPride, and are now building a new hitch,
using same converging link design as the Hensley. They have
incorporated several improvements as well, and are selling it for a
good bit less than the Hensley. Looks really cool, I like the new
design much better.

Its a brand new hitch and has not really hit the market yet, but once
it does and is established....I think it probably will be a better
choice than the Hensley, all things considered. Time will tell,
though...."

Apparently, they haven't quite started shipping yet.

Pete
Jim Redelfs - 09 Apr 2008 04:32 GMT
>> are selling it for a good bit less than the Hensley.

Less?  Holy Cow!!

The new one sells for, at least, $2500.  Just how high-priced is the
Hensley hitch?

Either one is a ridiculous price for a trailer hitch.  One would have to
have tried everything else to mitigate existing, BAD trailer sway before
shelling-out that kind of money for a mere trailer hitch.  Wow.
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Lon VanOstran - 09 Apr 2008 11:25 GMT
>>>are selling it for a good bit less than the Hensley.
>
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> have tried everything else to mitigate existing, BAD trailer sway before
> shelling-out that kind of money for a mere trailer hitch.  Wow.

You wouldn't react that way if you tried towing a conventional trailer
both with, and without a Hensley.

Lon
Will Sill - 09 Apr 2008 13:09 GMT
I see where Jim Redelfs <jim.redelfs@NOSPAMredelfs.com> contributed:

>Less?  Holy Cow!!
>
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>have tried everything else to mitigate existing, BAD trailer sway before
>shelling-out that kind of money for a mere trailer hitch.  Wow.

Your opinion noted, and I agree the price tag seems high but price the
Hensley.  Fact is that this type of hitch is dramatically superior to
the old ball-at-bumper setup.  Tho Hensley hucksters have falsely
claimed for years that theirs "eliminates sway",   these three hitches
(PullRite, Hensley, and ProPride) are well worth consideration by
anyone planning any prolonged towing of a TT.  They make handling as
stable as a fifth-wheel.

Will Sill
The self-appointed Curmudgeon of Sill Hill
ratatouillerat@yahoo.com - 11 Apr 2008 00:00 GMT
>>> are selling it for a good bit less than the Hensley.
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>have tried everything else to mitigate existing, BAD trailer sway before
>shelling-out that kind of money for a mere trailer hitch.  Wow.

You know there might be something to it when Will and Hunter agree on
it!

Pete
Jim Redelfs - 11 Apr 2008 05:23 GMT
> You know there might be something to it when
> Will and Hunter agree on it!

That may be but I am convinced that, like not a few other RV-related
things, such lofty-priced add-ons are more for bragging rights than any
real need.  They're right "up there" with Michelin tires, Alcoa<tm>
rims, hydraulic trailer brakes and the list goes on...

I have towed a few things in my days and never experienced uncontrolled
trailer sway.  Even the curmudgeon himself says that the CAUSE of sway
must be addressed and corrected - that sway mitigating devices are
[bandaid] solutions.  Given that, $2500 to [gawd knows how much] is a
ridiculous price to pay for a bandaid solution to a problem that
shouldn't exist in the first place.
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ratatouillerat@yahoo.com - 11 Apr 2008 05:35 GMT
>> You know there might be something to it when
>> Will and Hunter agree on it!
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>ridiculous price to pay for a bandaid solution to a problem that
>shouldn't exist in the first place.

Ignoring the price, if I were towing something large, I would like to
have all the edge I could get, wheelbase, overhang, power, etc.  These
three hitches are edge-givers, and not just gimmicks.

However, $2-3K is a bit more edge than I would pay for unless it was a
solution to two almost-matched rigs that I didn't want to trade.  Saw
a Pull-Rite in a scrap bin in Seattle one time; that's not a bad
price.

BTW, I had my little Scamp yank my Dodge half-ton all over the road on
wet gravel highway once, so edge can be important.

Pete
Will Sill - 11 Apr 2008 12:39 GMT
I see where Jim Redelfs <jim.redelfs@NOSPAMredelfs.com> contributed:

Pete:
>> You know there might be something to it when
>> Will and Hunter agree on it!

Hehehehe!

Jim:
>That may be but I am convinced that, like not a few other RV-related
>things, such lofty-priced add-ons are more for bragging rights than any
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>ridiculous price to pay for a bandaid solution to a problem that
>shouldn't exist in the first place.

You make some good points, Jim, but in an era of $40,000 (+) trucks
and $60,000 (+) trailers, that $2500 is pocket change.   Unlike pretty
wheels, this type of hitch has a tangible and beneficial effect on
handling stability.  It is a lot more than a bandaid.  Just one
emergency maneuver successfully completed will convince you.

As you correctly point out, I've repeatedly urged trailerists get the
balance stuff right because: "A trailer can sway for MANY reasons.
Hensley, PullRite and 5th-wheel hitches are vastly superior to
conventional hitches but address ONLY the level and direction of
stresses the swaying trailer applies to the tow vehicle, and better
minimize the effects on the tow vehicle. Trailerists concerned about
stability would do well to use a "good" hitch.  But you must STILL
pay attention to proper weight balance, tire pressures, driving
habits, and suspension conditions.  You CAN wreck your rig due to
sway, no matter what hitch you use.. . ."

However, IMO you're mistaken to think of the Hensley-style hitch as a
"bandaid" or as a "sway control gadget".  I've referred to that issue
as follows:

=====================
"SWAY CONTROL" gadgets are little more than bandaids, with minimal
effectiveness. If everything else is right they are unnecessary.   At
best they introduce some small resistance to sway, and at worst they
can cause you a crisis under slippery conditions.  I do NOT recommend
them. Instead, of you are serious about towing, check all the other
stuff and get a good hitch.
======================

That paragraph was directed at the whole family of devices such as
cams and friction mechanisms that do nothing more than somewhat resist
trailer hitch turning.  It is NOT directed at the few hitches that
have the very beneficial effect of moving the pivot point close to the
tow vehicle's axle.

Bottom line: despite the admittedly salty price tag, I'll continue to
recommend those Good Hitches to those intending to tow a TT many
miles.  They'll be more comfortable and safer.

Will Sill
The self-appointed Curmudgeon of Sill Hill
Will Sill - 09 Apr 2008 02:14 GMT
I see where ratatouillerat@yahoo.com contributed:

>http://www.propridehitch.com/

AHA!  At least one of my predictions has come true!   I have not had
(and probably won't) an opportunity to evaluate this new hitch,  but
its inventor has proved the principles well.

Worth a look, IMO.

Will Sill
I post to help rv'ers and to annoy the snot outa idjits,
morons, and liberal kooks.  If you're annoyed, check yer
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