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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / May 2008

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Alfa Leisure factory closes

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Ichabod - 10 May 2008 05:25 GMT
Alfa Leisure, manufacturer of Alfa See-Ya Motorhomes and Alfa 5th wheel
trailers if going out of business.
http://www.rvnewsservice.com/alfa-leisure-calls-it-quits/
Their website is down and emails are not going thru. Bummer, they made a
great product
Janet Wilder - 10 May 2008 20:29 GMT
>  Alfa Leisure, manufacturer of Alfa See-Ya Motorhomes and Alfa 5th wheel
> trailers if going out of business.
> http://www.rvnewsservice.com/alfa-leisure-calls-it-quits/
> Their website is down and emails are not going thru. Bummer, they made a
> great product

I never thought much of the product and they had a very spotty
reputation for warranty work. A few years ago they were losing
dealerships because they would not pay them for warranty work or took
months and months to pay.

When we were fulltiming, we looked at an Alfa fiver. The axles were
seriously undersized for the weight of the trailers. The net carrying
capacity was equivalent to a pair of panties and a can of tuna. After
crawling under one or two, I knew they weren't for us.

Their older models, like in the early to mid 90's were good, but like
too many manufacturers, they started building more lines to attract more
levels of customers then went into the motorhome business. They spread
themselves very thin and with the depressed new RV market these past two
years, we are now watching more and more of these companies fold.

The thing Alfa had going for it was glitz. The motorhomes gave a lot of
bang for the buck, but had serious warranty issues. The trailers had
some innovative designs. Personally I thought some of it was silly, like
their front living room model with an awning over the window in the cap.

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Janet Wilder
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Good Friends. Good Life

stan.birch@hotmail.com - 11 May 2008 00:00 GMT
Indeed, a fitting end for a bunch that has SO severely abused unaware
RVers over the years with their tacky outstandingly substandard
products! Not something a participant in this forum would ever been
stuck with; but there are a whole bunch of less astute would-be RVers
out there who have spent big $$$, only to have been stung by a piece
of crap that has acquired an earned reputation for propensity to
summarily collapse under it's own weight!!

It's most gratifying to witness the demise of these rapscallions!

Stan  Birch
Newmarket, Ontario

>>  Alfa Leisure, manufacturer of Alfa See-Ya Motorhomes and Alfa 5th wheel
>> trailers if going out of business.
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>some innovative designs. Personally I thought some of it was silly, like
>their front living room model with an awning over the window in the cap.
Ron Recer - 11 May 2008 13:23 GMT
>>  Alfa Leisure, manufacturer of Alfa See-Ya Motorhomes and Alfa 5th wheel
>> trailers if going out of business.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> they would not pay them for warranty work or took months and months to
> pay.

You may be right, but from what I heard checks were never sent out to
dealers for warranty work.  Warranty work done by a dealer has always been
deducted from the cost dealers paid for the next unit they purchased.  When
the market slows down it could be months and months before they got their
money.  I guess the unhappy dealers should have read the dealership
agreement before signing it!

> When we were fulltiming, we looked at an Alfa fiver. The axles were
> seriously undersized for the weight of the trailers. The net carrying
> capacity was equivalent to a pair of panties and a can of tuna. After
> crawling under one or two, I knew they weren't for us.

Our Alfa has a cargo capacity of 3,300 pounds considering only the axle
capacity plus another 2,600 pounds it you count the pin weight.

> Their older models, like in the early to mid 90's were good, but like too
> many manufacturers, they started building more lines to attract more
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> innovative designs. Personally I thought some of it was silly, like their
> front living room model with an awning over the window in the cap.

I suppose you are referring to the front cap that opens to become an awning.
Since they started that a few years back they have NOT produced any models
with front living rooms and I have never seen or heard of a front living
room model made by Alfa. With the cap up we have a great view out the front
window.  Not a big deal in crowded RV parks, but nice in places like our
spot on the Yellowstone River.

Towable RV's, by law must be under 400 square feet and space in the front
and end caps count toward the total.  When the front cap is movable, like
the Alf front, it doesn't count as part of the square footage, so you can
have a little more space inside.

Ron
Janet Wilder - 11 May 2008 17:27 GMT
> I suppose you are referring to the front cap that opens to become an awning.
> Since they started that a few years back they have NOT produced any models
> with front living rooms and I have never seen or heard of a front living
> room model made by Alfa. With the cap up we have a great view out the front
> window.  Not a big deal in crowded RV parks, but nice in places like our
> spot on the Yellowstone River.

I thought the big window was for a living room.  You mean that window is
in the bedroom?  I am certain that I would not have liked that feature
at all. What a waste of good wall space!

I did see one of those models at an RV park. IMHO, it was ugly.

I could see in front of us because our bedroom slide had windows on the
side (slide-out) walls that allowed us a forward and rearward vier.

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Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

Ron Recer - 11 May 2008 23:04 GMT
>> I suppose you are referring to the front cap that opens to become an
>> awning. Since they started that a few years back they have NOT produced
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> in the bedroom?  I am certain that I would not have liked that feature at
> all. What a waste of good wall space!

If you took away the window and hinged front cap, you would have a curved
wall or 15 or so square feet of unusable space behind a flat wall.  I
suppose you could put in closet, but that would take away the wall space
too.

Some like the window, some don't.  We happen to like it.

Ron
Janet Wilder - 12 May 2008 01:32 GMT
>>> I suppose you are referring to the front cap that opens to become an
>>> awning. Since they started that a few years back they have NOT produced
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Ron

Most fivers have a closet in that space. Both of our fivers did and they
were quite copious.

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Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

RAM³ - 12 May 2008 12:58 GMT
Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in news:482790fa$0$31211
$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:

> Most fivers have a closet in that space. Both of our fivers did and they
> were quite copious.

That's where the Entertainment Center is located in our Montana.

The Bedroom is at the rear of the trailer and the Living Room is over the
hitch.

Both end caps are quite solid.

FWIW, the first time I saw an Avion FW with its band of black paint around
the front cap I thought that it might be a dark glass wrap-around window.
Janet Wilder - 12 May 2008 22:41 GMT
> Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in news:482790fa$0$31211
> $c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> FWIW, the first time I saw an Avion FW with its band of black paint around
> the front cap I thought that it might be a dark glass wrap-around window.

I did, too. <g>

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Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

Ron Recer - 12 May 2008 23:29 GMT
>> Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in news:482790fa$0$31211
>> $c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>>
> I did, too. <g>

Me also!

Ron
RAM³ - 13 May 2008 00:55 GMT
>>> Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in news:482790fa$0$31211
>>> $c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Ron

Too bad that they didn't actually do it - it'd have been a great feature!

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