I am in the process of looking at buying a used tow truck. I know
that my choice of truck will depend on the 5er I buy, based on the
weight and pin weight, the 75% or 80% rule, etc.
My question is: Given the same 5er being towed, assuming the weight
is within the 75% rule weight limit of the lowest capability tow
vehicle, what difference in fuel consumption can I expect between a
3/4 ton and a 1 ton? I know different drivers and different roads
will make a huge difference. I'm only looking at ballpark numbers.
From a user point of view, what other differences is there between a
3/4 ton and a 1 ton truck.
In other words, given that a 3/4 ton would do the job, if you had the
choice between a 3/4 ton and a 1 ton, which would you take and why?
Also, between Ford, GM and Dodge, is there significant differences in
normal operation costs and maintenance costs between the three makes?
Thanks for any response.
Nate - 08 Aug 2008 22:54 GMT
>I am in the process of looking at buying a used tow truck. I know
> that my choice of truck will depend on the 5er I buy, based on the
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> 3/4 ton and a 1 ton? I know different drivers and different roads
> will make a huge difference. I'm only looking at ballpark numbers.
Very little. You're talking about the weight of a couple extra springs.
Some brands may offer larger axles in a one ton. I know that Ford uses the
same. Brakes are slightly different, but not heavier. Fuel tank may be
larger, but you don't have to fill it up.
Fuel mileage is affected by resistance. Resistance is affected by
aerodynamics and weight.
I went with a one ton even though a 3/4 would have done me fine. The cost
was not a big difference and I thought it would be a good idea to have
beefier springs in the back. They sure beat me up when I have no weight
back there though.
Nate
Tom J - 09 Aug 2008 00:06 GMT
> I am in the process of looking at buying a used tow truck. I know
> that my choice of truck will depend on the 5er I buy, based on the
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> From a user point of view, what other differences is there between a
> 3/4 ton and a 1 ton truck.
First, there is no such thing as a 3/4 ton or 1 ton anymore. Go to the
website of the manufacturer you are considering and see what is
offered.
As an example, if you go to the Ford site you will find F-250 trucks
rated to haul as much as 12,500 pounds. If you look at F-350 trucks,
guess what, the same unless dual rear wheels, then 15,00 & F-450,
16,000 pounds. No where does the chart say one word about tons because
as you can see by the weights, that's not relevant anymore.
http://www.fordvehicles.com/assets/pdf/towing/08FSD_towing.pdf
If it's Chevy or Dodge, it's 2500, 3500.
So you buy the combination of engine, transmission, rear end, cab
size, bed size and trim package that suite your needs. If buying
used, you need to know the same information.
When I bought my 2000 F-250 it was rated to tow more weight than the
same equipped F-350, but they are the same now.
Tom J
ratatouillerat@yahoo.com - 09 Aug 2008 01:57 GMT
I don't know about modern trucks, but some manufacturers (Dodge in the
'80s I know for sure) actually had different frames for the different
sizes, as well as bigger suspension components. Others used the same
frame and just put stiffer components on it for the greater expected
load.
Pete
Steve Barker DLT - 09 Aug 2008 02:30 GMT
it NEVER did have anything to do with tons. And it's still a relavant way
to refer to them.
s
> First, there is no such thing as a 3/4 ton or 1 ton anymore. Go to the
> website of the manufacturer you are considering and see what is offered.
.
> Tom J
ratatouillerat@yahoo.com - 09 Aug 2008 10:01 GMT
>it NEVER did have anything to do with tons. And it's still a relavant way
>to refer to them.
>
>s
Don't know that I'd say never -- The military referred to the tonnage
as cargo capacity, as in 1/4 T, 3/4T, 2 1/2T, 5T, etc.
Pete
Justin Case - 09 Aug 2008 10:51 GMT
> I am in the process of looking at buying a used tow truck. I know
> that my choice of truck will depend on the 5er I buy, based on the
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>
> Thanks for any response.
I went with a 1 ton Dodge, short bed, SRW, crew cab, diesel. I think if
I had gone with a 3/4 ton, I could have gotten a higher rear end for gas
mileage, but don't know if it would have been a package suitable for my 5er.
The only significant difference in the 2500 and 3500 that I know of is
about $200 in additional springs.
The one ton in AZ requires a commercial plate which costs more.
Anyway, the Cummins turbo diesel is one of the best engines ever made as
far as I'm concerned.
i
jtminqc - 09 Aug 2008 14:43 GMT
> > I am in the process of looking at buying a used tow truck. I know
> > that my choice of truck will depend on the 5er I buy, based on the
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>
> i
Thank you all. I think I got the answer I was looking for. . . . and
I will not ask which of Ford, Dodge or GM is better!!!!
Nate - 11 Aug 2008 15:51 GMT
>> > I am in the process of looking at buying a used tow truck. I know
>> > that my choice of truck will depend on the 5er I buy, based on the
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> Thank you all. I think I got the answer I was looking for. . . . and
> I will not ask which of Ford, Dodge or GM is better!!!!
FORD! Unless you own a Dodge...or maybe a Chevy. I forget.
What was the question?
Nate
jtminqc - 09 Aug 2008 14:45 GMT
> > I am in the process of looking at buying a used tow truck. I know
> > that my choice of truck will depend on the 5er I buy, based on the
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>
> i
Thank you all. I think I got the answer I was looking for. . . . and
I will not ask which of Ford, Dodge or GM is better!!!!
RAM³ - 09 Aug 2008 18:47 GMT
>> > I am in the process of looking at buying a used tow truck. I know
>> > that my choice of truck will depend on the 5er I buy, based on the
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> Thank you all. I think I got the answer I was looking for. . . . and
> I will not ask which of Ford, Dodge or GM is better!!!!
Many believe that a Ford cab on a GM chassis with a Cummins diesel (only
on a Dodge) would be the best. <G>
Justin Case - 10 Aug 2008 00:12 GMT
>>>> I am in the process of looking at buying a used tow truck. I know
>>>> that my choice of truck will depend on the 5er I buy, based on the
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> Many believe that a Ford cab on a GM chassis with a Cummins diesel (only
> on a Dodge) would be the best. <G>
I would agree with that. If GM had a Cummins in a 3500, I would have
bought it instead of a Dodge.