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43,000 health care walked off the job Sunday.............. http://www.kgw.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D8265RN02.html >From: "mared1313" >43,000 health care walked off the job Sunday.............. >http://www.kgw.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D8265RN02.html Good! Maybe now the public will see that the majority of surgeries, diagnostic procedures and etc., are needless, useless and expensive. Hank remove "mitted" for emailing > >From: "mared1313" > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > diagnostic procedures and etc., are needless, useless and expensive. > Hank Right, Hank, and when these medical facilities shut down 30% of their surgical beds, the patients will end up either dead or in Arizona to get their surgeries, especially the cardiac surgeries, which means more employment for those nurses in the snowbird areas, such as Phoenix metro and many of the surrounding communities, and ultimately higher costs for the patients and their families. Sorry, *I* don't have any solution. But I *can* tell you that there is a relatively high percentage of nurses coming to Arizona (other states, too) for employment and considerably higher wages. It would seem to me that hospitals in B.C. would do well to offer their staff some incentives to stay instead of losing qualified personnel. Where I'm located, when a nurse leaves the hospital, that hospital loses approximately $45,000! If 20 nurses leave, the hospital would incur nearly a million bucks in costs. Ouch!  SignatureRam www.rvsafety.com SPAM sent to postmaster@cox.net Admin[you-know-where]rvsafety[li'l spot]com >>> From: "mared1313" >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > approximately $45,000! If 20 nurses leave, the hospital would incur > nearly a million bucks in costs. Ouch! Gads, I hope they don't go there, and the nurses sure can't leave. We are talking insured people rather than illegals. Seems like the nurses can't leave, or take care of paying patients, when they have all those free patients clogging up the waiting rooms. :) >From: "R & A" ramandali@cox.net >Where >I'm located, when a nurse leaves the hospital, that hospital loses >approximately $45,000! If 20 nurses leave, the hospital would incur nearly >a million bucks in costs. Ouch! Ok, you're either going to teach me something, or explain yourself better. If a Nurse makes approx. 45K or more a year, how could the Hosp. lose money when that nurse leaves the hosp? When I was last in a hosp. (2 years ago), half the nurses were really skillful. The other half should have been fired for not knowing their job. Don't get me started....LOL. Hank remove "mitted" for emailing > >From: "R & A" ramandali@cox.net > > >Where > >I'm located, when a nurse leaves the hospital, that hospital loses > >approximately $45,000! If 20 nurses leave, the hospital would incur nearly > >a million bucks in costs. Ouch! <snip> > Ok, you're either going to teach me something, or explain yourself better. > If a Nurse makes approx. 45K or more a year, how could the Hosp. lose money [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Don't get me started....LOL. > Hank Ever hear of preceptors? Training? Orientation? Indoctrination? New epuipment? Different policies? It all takes time=money. My wife currently earns well over...well, never mind. Ram >From: "R & A" ramandali@cox.net > Ever hear of preceptors? Training? Orientation? Indoctrination? New >epuipment? Different policies? It all takes time=money. My wife currently >earns well over...well, never mind. > >Ram Yes I have. Don't mis-understand me, we need nurses and techs and such. I understand they need to be instructed on how hospital policies. I understand that the indoctrination costs money. But 45K for indoctrination seems a little steep. You must be correct, because around here, the hospitals are offering a sign-on bonus. The majority of nurses are dedicated and don't change employers very often. I get a little pissed when all the Hosp. are under constuction building a new wing. Then they cry that they don't have any money. Same as ALL government practices. [end of rant] Hank remove "mitted" for emailing So what's new? The VA abandoned us years ago, and the vaunted military retirement health care has a been a lie for 15 years. Mike F > 43,000 health care walked off the job Sunday.............. > http://www.kgw.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D8265RN02.html > 43,000 health care walked off the job Sunday.............. > http://www.kgw.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D8265RN02.html Usually the death rate goes down when they do that. > 43,000 health care walked off the job Sunday.............. > http://www.kgw.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D8265RN02.html Why don't you take your crap down the street? This is a newsgroup about RVing. rec.outdoors.rv-travel is becoming overrun by OT crap, and is falling apart. Do you want to talk RVing here or politics? If you want to talk RVing, stop posting this crap, and people, DON'T RESPOND to these trolls. If you want to talk politics, to go alt.politics or something similar. PLONK every a.shole who comes in with this stuff, and they won't have anyone to talk to, and will go bother rec.skiing, or alt.sewing, or someone else. If they can't get a rise out of you, they go away. Who gives a f.ck about the health care workers? If I wanted to read about that, I would go to alt.healthcareworkers. sheesh Steve >From: "SteveB" >Why don't you take your crap down the street? This is a newsgroup about >RVing. rec.outdoors.rv-travel is becoming overrun by OT crap, and is [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Steve Point taken. Altho I didn't start the thread, I did contribute to it. My mistake. It just struck one of my MANY nerves. Sorry. Hank remove "mitted" for emailing > >From: "SteveB" > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Hank > remove "mitted" for emailing Thank you for being receptive to this. This is one of MY many nerves, too. I pick up the paper every day and see these things. I see them on TV. I hear them on the radio. I come here and go RVing NOT to hear about them. When I want someone preaching to me, I go to church. When I want someone lecturing me, I go to a lecture. When I come here, I expect neither, and I expect those preaching and lecturing to at least have a clue that they are invading other's space. If they don't, I just plonk them, never to read their crap again. Remember, when trolls are fed, they thrive. When they are not fed, they find another bridge. Steve > > 43,000 health care walked off the job Sunday.............. > > http://www.kgw.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D8265RN02.html [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > alt.sewing, or someone else. If they can't get a rise out of you, they go > away. whine, whine, snivel, snivel. I've seen you reply to off-topic posts, so get off your high horse. > Who gives a f.ck about the health care workers? If I wanted to read about > that, I would go to alt.healthcareworkers. Sooner or later, Steve, you WILL care about health care workers, and quit trying to be the local net-nanny. That position has a waiting list a mile long. Ram |
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