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ht - 31 Jul 2004 13:35 GMT
If you were going to replace 2 12 volt house batteries, and didn't
want to put in the gel type, what brand and amp-hour rating ,
preferrably of sealed batteries,  do you use or prefer?  If the best
is water-added, then which?

Participation is optional, of course, but all replies are
appreciated.  Thanks
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Marty Bose - 31 Jul 2004 14:02 GMT
> If you were going to replace 2 12 volt house batteries, and didn't
> want to put in the gel type, what brand and amp-hour rating ,
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>  Participation is optional, of course, but all replies are
> appreciated.  Thanks

I would highly recommend Lifeline AGM batteries.  My OEM Marine deep
cycle battery died in only 8 months of use due to vibration; my
Lifeline AGM battery has been in for over 3 years with no problems to
date.  And no maintenance required.

http://www.lifelinebatteries.com

Marty
ht - 03 Aug 2004 01:38 GMT
>> If you were going to replace 2 12 volt house batteries, and didn't
>> want to put in the gel type, what brand and amp-hour rating ,
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>
>Marty

Thanks, Marty and all who answered, good info .   Pricy ain't
they....lol  
Seriously , I found what may be a local dealer who carries them and
the Deka, which is also recommended, along with a local Walmart to
look at, so will browse and question this week.  The Trojan's aren;'t
to be found within 150 miles of here.   according to their website..
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Larrie Malobenski - 03 Aug 2004 02:51 GMT
Here in the Great Lakes area New Castle batteries are highly respected. I
don't like Interstate because they are mostly a relabler/distributer.
The Amish around here settle for nothing less then Trojan.

>The Trojan's aren;'t
>to be found within 150 miles of here.   according to their website..

Don't be so sure. According to their website the closest seller is 30-40
miles from me. At best most of them had a few. I know an Amish store 10
miles from me that has over 100  T-105's at a nice price. If you have Amish
you'll find Trojans. Next idea; buy the equiptment manager at your golf
course a few beers. Maybe he'll get you a couple at his price.
wwemu@cwnet.com - 31 Jul 2004 15:06 GMT
Hi HT,

For wet or lead acid flooded batteries, the best seem to be made by
Trojan. Before I got the newer three stage charging system, I was
getting 4 1/2 years out of them. With the three stage charging system,
it appears that they might go as much as ten years, Not there yet,
Only been about seven.

For maintenance free, I just installed Deka AGM made by East Penn. A
sealed battery with a reputation for long life. While a bit more
expensive I am hoping that the decreased maintenance will compensate.
Deka seems to be the choice of the higher end coaches.  

If you want real quality, then consider either the Rolls or Surette
but you need a fat wallet for those. They are seldom used in RVs.

George

>If you were going to replace 2 12 volt house batteries, and didn't
>want to put in the gel type, what brand and amp-hour rating ,
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> Participation is optional, of course, but all replies are
>appreciated.  Thanks
ht - 03 Aug 2004 01:39 GMT
>For maintenance free, I just installed Deka AGM made by East Penn. A
>sealed battery with a reputation for long life. While a bit more
>expensive I am hoping that the decreased maintenance will compensate.
>Deka seems to be the choice of the higher end coaches.  

National solar source has the 8T24 Deka for $94.22, but shipping is
21.95 ground UPS, so I'm gonna check the local Batteries Plus, which
says they carry them, maybe they can get close to the price..
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Will Sill - 31 Jul 2004 20:01 GMT
I see where ht <Munged89Roadtrek@ADDRESSmyrealbox.com> contributed:
>If you were going to replace 2 12 volt house batteries, and didn't
>want to put in the gel type, what brand and amp-hour rating ,
>preferrably of sealed batteries,  do you use or prefer?  If the best
>is water-added, then which?

I'd replace with a pair of 6v golf car batteries in series.  More
capacity than most 12v combos.

Will Sill
"It's obvious to me that this country is rapidly dividing
itself into two camps _ the wimps and the warriors: The ones
who want to argue and assess and appease, and the ones who
want to carry this fight to our enemies and kill them before
they kill us. And in case you haven't figured it out,
I proudly belong to the latter."  US Sen Zell Miller (D)





ht - 03 Aug 2004 01:41 GMT
>I see where ht <Munged89Roadtrek@ADDRESSmyrealbox.com> contributed:
>>If you were going to replace 2 12 volt house batteries, and didn't
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>
>Will Sill

I know I probably should, but I just have  a hard time getting my mind
around using 6 volt batteires.   LOL  Thanks for the input.  
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Will Sill - 03 Aug 2004 12:25 GMT
I see where ht <Munged89Roadtrek@ADDRESSmyrealbox.com> contributed:

>>>If you were going to replace 2 12 volt house batteries, and didn't
>>>want to put in the gel type, what brand and amp-hour rating ,
>>>preferrably of sealed batteries,  do you use or prefer?  If the best
>>>is water-added, then which?

Will:
>>I'd replace with a pair of 6v golf car batteries in series.  More
>>capacity than most 12v combos.

ht:
>I know I probably should, but I just have  a hard time getting my mind
>around using 6 volt batteires.   LOL  Thanks for the input.  

You don't need to wrap your mind around them - you just connect them
in series.    Think of them as a 12v battery that comes in two pieces.
It is a very common application and works well.  We have 4 in a
series/parallel combination.   You can buy them at Sam's for under $50
each.

Will Sill
ht - 04 Aug 2004 00:24 GMT
>>I know I probably should, but I just have  a hard time getting my mind
>>around using 6 volt batteires.   LOL  Thanks for the input.  
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>
>Will Sill

Ha, now that's good thinking.... Ok, what's the type such as 24 or 27
they come in , maybe I could fit 4 in the space I have.  
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HRL - 04 Aug 2004 01:48 GMT
> >>I know I probably should, but I just have  a hard time getting my mind
> >>around using 6 volt batteires.   LOL  Thanks for the input.
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> Ha, now that's good thinking.... Ok, what's the type such as 24 or 27
> they come in , maybe I could fit 4 in the space I have.

They are a bit taller than normal deep discharge batteries.
It is it any help, they are 10.5 x 7 inches and 11.75 inches tall including
1.75 inches for the caps and terminals.

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ht - 04 Aug 2004 01:51 GMT
>> >It is a very common application and works well.  We have 4 in a
>> >series/parallel combination.   You can buy them at Sam's for under $50
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>It is it any help, they are 10.5 x 7 inches and 11.75 inches tall including
>1.75 inches for the caps and terminals.

Thanks, just what I needed.
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Speedy - 01 Aug 2004 08:22 GMT
HT,
Check out Walmarts store brand batteries.  I don't know who makes them
but there are only a few actual battery manufacturers.  They are
inexpensive and have a 1, 2 or 3 year guarantee.  Just take it to a
Walmart with the sales reciept and they'll give you a brand new one.  No
prorating age, etc.
I got stuck one night at camp Walmart when the chasis battery died.
Fifteen minutes later I was on the road.  That one failed about 3 weeks
later and another walmart just gave me a new one.  Turned out it wasn't
the battery's fault.  I had a voltage reg. problem.
I then put 2 of their deep cycle marine batteries in for the coach.
These are all heavy duty high amp hour ratings, etc.
We've been full-timing for over a year now.  We spent part of the winter
in S. Ontario and the rest in central NC.  Weather went from cold to
DAMNED cold.  We were snowed in several times at both ends.  I figure
we've also logged about 60 days dry camping during that time.  Heavy
duty use of furnaces, etc., all 12v and run off the batteries.  The
batteries have given me no problems at all.  
I figure between the price and the guarantee, you can't lose even if you
had to replace them after 3 years.
Oh yeah, when I returned the first battery they actually gave me a
refund and then rang up the replacement as a new sale so the guarantee
started over again.
There are Walmarts literally everywhere.  In the past, I've had trouble,
while traveling, finding a dealer for the same brand as a failed battery .  
Hope this helps
Speedy

>If you were going to replace 2 12 volt house batteries, and didn't
>want to put in the gel type, what brand and amp-hour rating ,
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>appreciated.  Thanks
>  
ht - 03 Aug 2004 01:43 GMT
>HT,
>Check out Walmarts store brand batteries.  I don't know who makes them
>but there are only a few actual battery manufacturers.  They are
>inexpensive and have a 1, 2 or 3 year guarantee.  Just take it to a
>Walmart with the sales reciept and they'll give you a brand new one.  No
>prorating age, etc.

Thanks, price alone makes their batteries tempting.  Gonna make the
rounds this week.  Exide manugfacturers theirs local here, so maybe I
can find someone to get me an employee discount, if Exide has anything
for RV's.  
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b b - 02 Aug 2004 21:21 GMT
> If you were going to replace 2 12 volt house batteries, and didn't
> want to put in the gel type, what brand and amp-hour rating ,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>  Participation is optional, of course, but all replies are
> appreciated.  Thanks

I'd replace my two 225 Amp Hour 6v Trojan T-105s with the same thing.  
They are not sealed, but I add water only annually, and they've been
there since the 99 motorhome was new.  I do not discharge them below
12.10 volts, however, and changed the inverter to a three stage
Progressive Dynamics 9155 two years ago.

HTH,
Barrie B
wwemu@cwnet.com - 03 Aug 2004 05:55 GMT
Hi Barrie,

Not wanting to be too picky but isn't the Progressive Dynamics 9155
actually a converter rather than an inverter?  I have not heard of
Progressive Dynamics making inverters but their converters are well
thought of.... and they do make a three stage converter/charger.

George

>> If you were going to replace 2 12 volt house batteries, and didn't
>> want to put in the gel type, what brand and amp-hour rating ,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>HTH,
>Barrie B
b b - 03 Aug 2004 10:31 GMT
> Not wanting to be too picky but isn't the Progressive Dynamics 9155
> actually a converter rather than an inverter?  

Of course you are correct...
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Thanks,
Barrie B

 
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