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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / August 2004FYI..DeLorme's SA2005 products are available
http://www.delorme.com/consumer.htm Dan > http://www.delorme.com/consumer.htm > > Dan Here's hoping that the SA2005 maps are a whole lot more accurate than SA2003's and SADeluxe's were. I get very tired of being shown to be 50 yds away from the road I'm driving on... You'll be seeing that for many years to come. Some areas and types of roads will be much more accurate because DeLorme tries to correct them as they have time using aerial and satellite data and try to do areas they get the most complaints about in their data revisions forms. Until the folks that supply the maps (Census and Department of Transportation sources) get the data straight, all companies that produce mapping software will have areas that aren't very accurate when used with a GPS. Believe me I know what it's like. I just had to navigate this weekend to my daughters new house which has been there for 4 years, but it wasn't on DeLorme's map, nor anybody else's maps, including the any of the mapping websites or MS S&T. The interstates, exchanges and major roads I used were dead on with the GPS. Some development roads were off of the GPS pretty bad, others were close enough, so I never got lost or even close to it. Made a couple of wrong turns, but at least with the GPS I knew it instantly. SA2005 will be better, but it won't be anywhere near perfect. Neither is any other app. Dan > > http://www.delorme.com/consumer.htm > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I get very tired of being shown to be 50 yds away from the road I'm driving > on... > Subject: Re: FYI..DeLorme's SA2005 products are available > From: "Dan Lawyer" <dlawyer@austin.rr.com> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Dan <Chuckle> Usually, all the roads in a given area will be "off" by the same amount in the same direction - which tells me that the digitizer was doing its job correctly but that the operator didn't have the paper properly aligned [ie. "registered"]. It's too bad that there's no "adjustment" (available to the user) to permit the user to correct the "registration" of the displayed map. I would certainly hope that this problem doesn't happen with TOPO - given that these _should_ be more accurately "registered". Hey Dan Does 2005 change the "Find" setup so it remembers how I use it? For instance 99.9% of my "Find" requirements are for "street address" but every time I start the program it defaults to "Name" which I rarely use. The cover letter I received hinted that it might be changed but I could not find any specifics. BTW you are right about the DOT data often being out of touch with reality. A local four lane bypass that was proposed eons ago but only finished a few years ago will have certain sections that the GPS tracks well south of the map route. Why? Because the last few miles to be finished ran into quicksand! > Hey Dan > Does 2005 change the "Find" setup so it remembers how I use it? For instance > 99.9% of my "Find" requirements are for "street address" but every time I > start the program it defaults to "Name" which I rarely use. The cover letter > I received hinted that it might be changed but I could not find any > specifics. Yes, the Advanced search remembers what you did last when you close and reopen the app. It opens back up with the type and values of your last search. Also the Quick Search seems to be retaining searches better. Sometimes it would loose them. >Yes, the Advanced search remembers what you did last when you close and >reopen the app. Damn!! now Ijust got to buy this one!!!!<G> Amazing the little things that make our lives easier;>) Just be aware that they dropped the multiple draw layers and routes per mapfile. There is only one of each now. If you must have the multiple draw layer to control what displays in a mapfile, then you'll have to upgrade to SA2005 Plus. Here are a couple of ways you can deal with it that I thought of.... - Import as many of your existing layers as you want into a mapfile' draw layer and then save that mapfile with a name that will represent the data you put in it. - Create separate mapfiles for the existing draw layers you want to keep. As in the first option I would put a coupe of draw layers in each of these grouping them something like "FlyingJ, Loves, Dump Stations" - Create a separate mapfile for each existing draw layer you want to keep. One of the slick things that SA2005 does is allow you to switch mapfiles with the GPS running. This allows you to create a mapfile with your route and whatever draw objects you need for it, and then when you want one of your other mapfiles with the unique draw objects, just open it. Your route won't be in these mapfiles, but you can still find stuff you want in relation to your GPS symbol. Even if you use the Radar Feature, just center the GPS then do the radar and it will route to it. These are just a few things I've though of to get around not having multiple draw layers in a mapfile, I'm sure there are other ways to get around it. Dan > >Yes, the Advanced search remembers what you did last when you close and > >reopen the app. > > Damn!! now Ijust got to buy this one!!!!<G> Dan, when SA2003 immerged, I bought it, got frustrated with the interface, slow routing, etc, returned it and went back to SA9. Then after reading your positive comments about SA2004, I decided to try it especially because the multiple draw layers were very useful. Now, if living with the warts for all this time, I've learned to love it. It takes a great deal of patience to get used to the interface. The ability to turn layers off and on is very useful. If you edited the draw layer, the new info would show no matter what map file you were using. Then we learned that MapNGo will be discontinued. I used that for AAA's tour book and CG's. I still use 7.0. Now Delorme wants to force us to spend 3 x the $ just to keep the features we had on SA2004. I'll stick with SA2004 until I find another alternative.  SignatureThanks Traveling > Amazing the little things that make our lives easier;>) > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Dan I have had a new SA for at least 5 years, when the went to the newer interface I was forced to buy a new Laptop to accommodate the extra resources it required because my older laptop was too slow. However I am not exactly sure what you mean with the multiple draw levels, could you please explain it. I'm not sure I even use it and why would I. Thanks > Dan, when SA2003 immerged, I bought it, got frustrated with the > interface, slow routing, etc, returned it and went back to SA9. Then [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > > > Dan It's like having clear plastic overlays with certain map locations say; one with all Wal-Mart's, one with all flyingJ's etc. You just check/uncheck a box and the data overlays your map. If memory servers me correct, it's available with SA2003 and SA2004. SignatureThanks Traveling > I have had a new SA for at least 5 years, when the went to the newer > interface I was forced to buy a new Laptop to accommodate the extra [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > > > > > > Dan How do you get a overlay for say Wal-Mart's? Do you have to manually set a map tag for every one. Or do you do a search for Wal-Mart? Thanks > It's like having clear plastic overlays with certain map locations say; > one with all Wal-Mart's, one with all flyingJ's etc. You just [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] > > > > > > > > Dan There's a Discovery owners web site that has a load of draw files. Use google or perhaps someone here can point you to the web site. SignatureThanks Traveling > How do you get a overlay for say Wal-Mart's? Do you have to manually set a > map tag for every one. Or do you do a search for Wal-Mart? [quoted text clipped - 106 lines] > > > > > > > > > > Dan http://www.discoveryowners.com/cginfo.htm#textmapfiles thanks I found it. > There's a Discovery owners web site that has a load of draw files. Use > google or perhaps someone here can point you to the web site. [quoted text clipped - 136 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan Snip... >SA2005 will be better, but it won't be anywhere near perfect. Neither is any >other app. > >Dan Have they added any items to the right hand column, the one where they have the "center on GPS box"? It's mostly empty and I'd like to see a series of user configurable boxes there. Why can't I have a regular compas there instead of the one that's there always pointing to the front of the rig. Why not a box for elevation, speed, distance to turn, etc? Jon ==================================================== Jon Griffin Cottage Grove, OR Oliver, BC apply ROT13 to my address gurpuvrs@bz-vz.bet ==================================================== I've been wanting that to be user configurable too, but it isn't (yet). However, they have improved the GPS Status window, and if you move the tab all the way up, the data display is huge. It's also very visible, all the way down the way they did it, with Speed and Heading having their own windows. It now includes... Speed Heading Compass Lat Lon Elevation Hopefully they will put it in the control panel (soon before I get to old to drive;>), so you could see this info along with the route turn tab which is really what you want to see when your tracking a route. That is really nice this year with not only the next turn, but the turn after that. Dan > Snip... > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > gurpuvrs@bz-vz.bet > ==================================================== |
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