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Has anyone tried this Cell Phone booster from thier RV ??
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DaveinIllinois@webtv.net - 23 Aug 2004 23:53 GMT I saw this in Motorhome magazine last night. They claim its really boosts the signal. If anyone has one , please give us a report on how it is. Thanks, Dave
Its at :www.talkfurther.com
Dave Woodruff - 24 Aug 2004 00:21 GMT > I saw this in Motorhome magazine last night. They claim its really > boosts the signal. If anyone has one , please give us a report on how it > is. Thanks, Dave > > Its at :www.talkfurther.com Dave, I don't have that model, but I have and use one we bought from Powertec out of Australia. We are now able to use our cell phones from our home park while nobody else can. We couldn't get sufficient signal without one but it does make a difference. I don't think it will get you a signal at all campgrounds but it does help to reach out a little better. You will also need a good antenna. We use the Wilson Trucker and if service is marginal I can often get by with just the antenna. I even get gain from the antenna just putting it on the dash of the MH, but a little better when you give it some elevation above the roofline.
For what it's worth.
Dave W.
Bob Giddings - 24 Aug 2004 04:21 GMT >> I saw this in Motorhome magazine last night. They claim its really >> boosts the signal. If anyone has one , please give us a report on how it [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Dave W. I can vouch for the Wilson Trucker. I am using it now to send this to you. With the antenna, I'm getting 3 bars. Without the external antenna, I can't get a signal at all.
Bob
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GBinNC - 24 Aug 2004 04:35 GMT >I can vouch for the Wilson Trucker. I am using it now to send this to >you. With the antenna, I'm getting 3 bars. Without the external >antenna, I can't get a signal at all. I have a Wilson Trucker mounted as high as possible on the eaves of my carriagehouse, about 35' off the ground. The cable comes in through a small conduit I had my builder put in during construction.
Without the antenna, I routinely get 0-1 bar; with it, I get 4-5. Had it up at the mountain house for a year or so, with similar results.
I don't usually have a problem getting a decent signal on the road, but I couldn't use my cellphone at home without it. (We're way out in the middle of nowhere.)
GB in NC
Art - 24 Aug 2004 06:25 GMT Hi, Pls xcuse the obvios question.....I went to the wilson trucker site and looked around. It seems that they make a bunch of antenas foe CB apps. Which of these is appropriate for a cell phone? Am I missing the boat(RV)? Thx
Art
>>I can vouch for the Wilson Trucker. I am using it now to send this to >>you. With the antenna, I'm getting 3 bars. Without the external [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > GB in NC Speedy - 24 Aug 2004 06:38 GMT Art, What you want is the Wilson dual band Cullular Truckers Antenna. Wilson doesn't sell them directly. The best deal I found was over the internet from BatteryOutlet.com About $65 and they include a free adapter for your particular cell phone.
Speedy
> Hi, Pls xcuse the obvios question.....I went to the wilson trucker > site and looked around. It seems that they make a bunch of antenas > foe CB apps. Which of these is appropriate for a cell phone? Am I > missing the boat(RV)? Thx > > Art Art - 24 Aug 2004 07:04 GMT Hey Speedy, Thanks, I will follow up . live in the fringe of cellular coverage and could use something that will boost signal. I also have a 73 Dodge class C that travels beyond the fringe.... thanks again.
Art
> Art, > What you want is the Wilson dual band Cullular Truckers Antenna. Wilson [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >> Art Peter Pan - 24 Aug 2004 09:48 GMT Actually, they *DO* sell them directly, and they are on their *cellular* website! (they have at least two), and also sell them at many truck stops
Use www.wilsoncellular.com and click on the RV/trucker antenna. (They also have a CB and Amateur oriented website at www.wilsonantenna.com)
From the ad: The Wilson RV / Trucker Cellular Antenna was carefully designed to minimize loss and maximize gain on both the 800 MHz and 1900 MHz bands.
> Hey Speedy, Thanks, I will follow up . live in the fringe of cellular > coverage and could use something that will boost signal. I also have a [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >> > >> Art Dave Woodruff - 24 Aug 2004 18:07 GMT I'm with Peter Pan, found mine at a Flying J but have seen them at other truck stops and the prices at FJ were quite competitive. The one I use and I think the better of them requires no ground, and has 3 radial arms off the antenna and a small plastic cup as for a center load area slightly above where the radials install.
Dave W
> Actually, they *DO* sell them directly, and they are on their *cellular* > website! (they have at least two), and also sell them at many truck stops [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > >> > > >> Art BD - 24 Aug 2004 19:35 GMT > Actually, they *DO* sell them directly, and they are on their *cellular* > website! (they have at least two), and also sell them at many truck stops > > Use www.wilsoncellular.com and click on the RV/trucker antenna. (They also > have a CB and Amateur oriented website at www.wilsonantenna.com) Hey Marc,
Can you get an adapter for those Wilson Trucker Ant's to plug into a Orinoco Wifi PCMCIA card?
BD
Peter Pan - 24 Aug 2004 20:35 GMT > > Actually, they *DO* sell them directly, and they are on their *cellular* > > website! (they have at least two), and also sell them at many truck stops [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > BD Yes, BUT <-- a BIG but.... The WiFi uses a different frequency than the cell bands do. There is a huge amount of loss. In the cases where people already have an antenna permantly mounted (usually on the roof of an RV (IE way high) or on the roof of the towing truck (usually with a metal body), the internal antennas on many PCMCIA cards are really really bad in those situations, and any signal (no matter how bad) is usually better than none.The only ones I am familiar with, are the SMC high power cards that have antenna connectors on them (you can either use the internal antenna, or external with the pigtails SMC sells. They connect to the card at one end and a standard connector at the other end, that is a standard connector that can be used with the trucker antenna). Fraid there are very very few PCMCIA cards that have external antenna jacks on them (and I have no idea about the Orinoco).
A much better idea (and what I went to later on) is a keychain WiFi finder (lights and audible alarm when a WiFi signal is present)and an aimable directional WiFi specific antenna on the roof. The worst part of my RV is that is is big and hard to park. By using the directional antenna I could be farther away from the access point.and still get a good signal (like out on a straight street instead of in a little parking lot).
BD - 25 Aug 2004 00:46 GMT > > Hey Marc, > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Yes, BUT <-- a BIG but.... The WiFi uses a different frequency than the > cell bands do. There is a huge amount of loss. Really...I thought the cell and wifi bands were about the same...about 2.4 ghz?
> The only ones I am familiar with, are the SMC high power cards that > have antenna connectors on them (you can either use the internal antenna, or [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > cards that have external antenna jacks on them (and I have no idea about the > Orinoco). Yep, the Orinoco has an ext. ant. miniplug jack. I have a 5 dBi mobile magnet mnt. omni, but I thought maybe that big Wilson would pick up a sig better. I also have a cable with the mini plug for the Orinoco on one end and some kind of female AN coax fitting on the other. I'd guess it would screw right on to the Wilson. I had hoped the Wilson would be a useable freq for the wifi card.
Thanks,
BD
> A much better idea (and what I went to later on) is a keychain WiFi finder > (lights and audible alarm when a WiFi signal is present)and an aimable > directional WiFi specific antenna on the roof. Saw this in the Boingo newsletter today. I think Hunter was asking about a finder a while back.
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The Hawking difference, as you would expect from a company that specializes in cutting-edge antenna technology, is a flip-up high-gain directional antenna that lets you pinpoint the location of nearby signals, as well as see their strength on an LED meter. Signals from other 2.4GHz sources, such as cordless phones, Bluetooth devices, and microwave ovens, are filtered out. Other Wi-Fi detectors lack the directional capabilities of the Hawking.
The cell-phone-sized WiFi Locator will be available soon and works at distances up to 1000 feet.
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Marty Bose - 25 Aug 2004 02:29 GMT > > > Hey Marc, > > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Really...I thought the cell and wifi bands were about the same...about 2.4 > ghz? (snip)
Sorry, but no. US domestic cell phones run on either 800 mHz or 1900 mHz.
Marty
BD - 25 Aug 2004 02:54 GMT > I thought the cell and wifi bands were about the same...about 2.4 > > ghz? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Marty Thanks Marty. How about this...Is there any way to add some kind of load, resistor, or? to make the Wilson work at 2.4 Ghz? It would be great to be able to use it to enhance cellphone reception, then screw in some adapter for use with wifi.
BD
RAM^3 - 25 Aug 2004 03:34 GMT > Thanks Marty. How about this...Is there any way to add some kind of load, > resistor, or? to make the Wilson work at 2.4 Ghz? > It would be great to be able to use it to enhance cellphone reception, then > screw in some adapter for use with wifi. > > BD Why not simply do what I did: buy a WiFi magnetic-mount external antenna that works with my SMC card?
At selected Flying J truck stops and their website...
BD - 25 Aug 2004 04:07 GMT > Why not simply do what I did: buy a WiFi magnetic-mount external antenna > that works with my SMC card? > > At selected Flying J truck stops and their website... Have one, but it's only a 5 Dbi mag mount. Just asking dumb questions, I guess.
BD
Peter Pan - 25 Aug 2004 03:37 GMT > > I thought the cell and wifi bands were about the same...about 2.4 > > > ghz? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > BD Here's a silly thought, why not have TWO antennas? they make all sorts of WiFi antennas, why not have one specifically designed for cellphones, and another specifically designed for WiFi?
BD - 25 Aug 2004 04:06 GMT > Here's a silly thought, why not have TWO antennas? they make all sorts of > WiFi antennas, why not have one specifically designed for cellphones, and > another specifically designed for WiFi? Yeah...I know. Considered that would be the solution.
BD
Peter Pan - 25 Aug 2004 02:43 GMT > > > Hey Marc, > > > [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > ***************************** If you want to try something available now (under $30, key chain sized)
http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/reviews/CD/article.php/3355021 another one http://www.pctel.com/seeker.php or http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/pctel-wifi-seeker-review.html
Now all of these have no directional ability, but they are all extremely small, light, and fit on a keychain.
When I find a signal with the keychain one, I used to break out the laptop to find it (I have a PDA with built in wifi and ministumbler now), but the hawking unit sounds like a great step between the keychain unit and the laptop (and for sure cheaper than the PDA!).
JPinNE - 25 Aug 2004 13:27 GMT > Fraid there are very very few PCMCIA cards that have external antenna > jacks on them (and I have no idea about the Orinoco). FYI - The older (2001) Orinoco cards that we have in our office do have an external antenna jack. Not sure about the newer ones, though.
b b - 24 Aug 2004 13:12 GMT > I saw this in Motorhome magazine last night. They claim its really > boosts the signal. If anyone has one , please give us a report on how it > is. Thanks, Dave > > Its at :www.talkfurther.com I have owned a Digital Antenna DA4000 dual band cellphone amplifier with receive preamp for two years. It cost around $200, but in the last year traveling in the RV I did not connect it once, as I did not ever get out of range of a tower using only my cell phone and Wilson Trucker antenna. The previous year I found areas with no service out west, but few of these would give service with the amplifier if there was not service without it. I would not say it is worthless, but there are very few areas where it makes the difference between working and not working. If you spend considerable time in one of these areas, it might be worthwhile for you.
One thing you must be aware of; it is unwise to connect an amplifier and leave it on all the time. In many cases with marginal signal, I found the phone would work with just the antenna, but WOULD NOT work with the amplifier. The cellular system has safeguards built into it to kick you off if you hit too many towers at once, or overload a tower with too much signal. I find the amplifier to be much more problem than it's worth the way we move almost every day. If it does not work here today (which is very rare), it will probably work where we are tomorrow, and with much less trouble than hooking up the amplifier....and much greater assurance of success too.
 Signature HTH, Barrie B
Jud Hardcastle - 24 Aug 2004 22:09 GMT > One thing you must be aware of; it is unwise to connect an amplifier and > leave it on all the time. In many cases with marginal signal, I found [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > with much less trouble than hooking up the amplifier....and much greater > assurance of success too. Sure glad I found some mention of that problem when I was shopping for an amp. I went with the SignalReach SA200. It automatically and constantly adjusts the output gain so that it never overpowers the site--you can leave it in the circuit all the time. Actually I got the TP200 -- it's the same amp as the SA200 but in a transportable vinyl case. That way I can have it connected to a Wilson roof-mounted antenna in the motorhome but move it to the toad with a window mounted antenna for day trips.
 Signature Jud Dallas TX USA
Marty Bose - 25 Aug 2004 02:26 GMT > > One thing you must be aware of; it is unwise to connect an amplifier and > > leave it on all the time. In many cases with marginal signal, I found [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > in the motorhome but move it to the toad with a window mounted antenna > for day trips. While you may think what you described is not a problem, if you are using a CDMA phone it may make it impossible for anyone in the vicinity to use that tower. This is because one of the features of CDMA is variable power; a base station will always try to keep the noise floor at the lowest possible level by directing the output power down. If the base station receives a strong signal, it will reduce power. This is why a user can get a strong signal one day and a weaker one from the same location later; the more signals (or stronger signals) that the base station receives, the lower power it transmits with.
So the bottom line is this; the use of an amplifier may help you, but it will make it more difficult for anyone within maybe a 1/2 mile to make a good connection. Not very neighborly at all, but they'll never know you're the reason.
Marty
yehool - 25 Aug 2004 05:34 GMT I don't see the problem, or understand why that would be true. If so then what's the difference if somebody stopped under the tower as opposed to someone sitting 1 mile away. Would the tower really suppress the distant signal because one signal is closer and stronger? Might as well say its not neighborly to be the strongest signal.
> > > One thing you must be aware of; it is unwise to connect an amplifier and > > > leave it on all the time. In many cases with marginal signal, I found [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Marty Jud Hardcastle - 25 Aug 2004 15:40 GMT > > Sure glad I found some mention of that problem when I was shopping for > > an amp. I went with the SignalReach SA200. It automatically and [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > same location later; the more signals (or stronger signals) that the > base station receives, the lower power it transmits with. AFAIK variable power is not unique to CDMA. And just how is that a problem if the SA amp honors power level commands from the tower and reduces it's output accordingly? It would look and behave "exactly" like a normal handset and only use the amount of power needed for a good signal. Same effect of taking that handset and moving it miles closer to the tower.
 Signature Jud Dallas TX USA
b b - 25 Aug 2004 19:19 GMT > AFAIK variable power is not unique to CDMA. And just how is that a > problem if the SA amp honors power level commands from the tower and > reduces it's output accordingly? It would look and behave "exactly" > like a normal handset and only use the amount of power needed for a good > signal. Same effect of taking that handset and moving it miles closer > to the tower. I do not think power control is unique to CDMA. But I doubt the SA amp actually decodes the power commands from the tower, any more than my DA4000 does; it just lets the cellphone reduce it's power and it is a linear amplifier with so many dB of gain, so the amplifier's power goes down as the cellphone's power does, but the output is XdB above the cellphone's output. The problem starts when the cellphone reduces it's output to minimum, and the tower still gets more than it wants....it cannot reduce power more. Then the system gets degraded for everyone using that tower, as your excessive power overloads the tower's sensitive receiver and prevents weak signals from being heard.
Have you noticed any "funny" stuff happening when you are operating close to a tower using your amplifier...like distorted sound, folks complaining YOU sound funny, or your phone will not make a call?
What is the URL for the SA manufacturers website? I'm curious now...
:-)  Signature Regards, Barrie B
Jud Hardcastle - 25 Aug 2004 20:07 GMT > > AFAIK variable power is not unique to CDMA. And just how is that a > > problem if the SA amp honors power level commands from the tower and [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > What is the URL for the SA manufacturers website? I'm curious now... > :-) Nope, no "funny" stuff at all. Sound is clear even when driving under a tower. I've spoke to both the mfg rep and the local distrib and they both said the SR hardware and firmware was unique in that it did vary the power as needed to avoid the exact problems you describe. The distributor is the largest wireless distrib in DFW and he said as far as he knew the SA was the only one doing that. Not sure he mentioned the DA4000 but he did mention the Wilson and Smoothtalker brands.
Here's a quote from the manual:
These cellular and iDEN signal amplifiers are network-compatible devices that ensure proper power levels in the transmit (uplink) path. This enhances the user’s experience without compromising cellular or iDEN network inter-operability requirements. The amplifiers’ receive circuitry is appropriately optimized for network operation. Features Power control logic to ensure maximum output power is within cellular and iDEN standards. Self-adjusting circuitry allows it to work with any cellular telephone/cradle combination. Network-compatible operation to ensure transmit power tracks the connected cellular or iDEN telephone output.
The link is: http://www.signalreach.com/files/SA%20Series%20Signal%20Amplifier% 20Data%20Sheet%20Ver%201.0.pdf or http://tinyurl.com/57fbz
See what you think but so far I've not seen a single problem.
Jud
Marty Bose - 26 Aug 2004 01:32 GMT > > > AFAIK variable power is not unique to CDMA. And just how is that a > > > problem if the SA amp honors power level commands from the tower and [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > Jud I looked at the website that you listed, and having read it I stand by my original statement. While they talk about their proper power levels on the uplink path, they also have a maximum output of 2W at 1900 mHz and 3W at 850 mHz. This is well over 6 times what your average handset can put out. if you're far enough out to use that much power, the base station will reduce power to the point that a 0.5W handset will not connect.
Marty
Jud Hardcastle - 26 Aug 2004 15:46 GMT > > > > AFAIK variable power is not unique to CDMA. And just how is that a > > > > problem if the SA amp honors power level commands from the tower and [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > station will reduce power to the point that a 0.5W handset will not > connect. But if what I was told is correct and the amp *is* decoding/honoring the tower power commands, the tower would never actually "see" that power. Anytime it saw more than what was needed it would instruct the phone (and therefore the amp) to reduce power one increment and thus TO IT power would never appear to be more than .6w or whatever the max accepted power is (or whatever the tower "wanted"--could be minimum). As you got further away the signal it sees would get weaker and it would send the "more power" command. At some "x" distance the amp would be at full power; at some "y" distance the amp would be at minimum power. The actual handset would be at minimum power all the time. The only problem I see is if the phones have a fixed number of power levels the towers could be sending "change to level 2" instead of "change to next higher power level"--that might not be enough "levels" to keep the amp's power output correct. But I have no idea how that's done--may not even be discrete commands--the handsets may adjust power levels based on a analog side carrier signal--could be simply "you're ok", "need more output", "need less output" etc. Someone with knowledge of the inner workings of each system would have to advise.
In any case, based on the result of whatever the amp is doing, I'm seeing very consistent signal at the phone, whether 30 feet from a tower or 10 miles, with no "funny" results like being kicked off a tower or distortion--it just works-and with it connected all the time. So I can definitely recommend the Signal Reach amp to anyone looking.
 Signature Jud Dallas TX USA
Marty Bose - 28 Aug 2004 03:40 GMT > > > > > AFAIK variable power is not unique to CDMA. And just how is that a > > > > > problem if the SA amp honors power level commands from the tower and [quoted text clipped - 89 lines] > distortion--it just works-and with it connected all the time. So I can > definitely recommend the Signal Reach amp to anyone looking. As i have repeatedly said, the amp will work for you just fine, it's everyone else who will be shut out. If you don't care about anyone else, go for it!
As far as the technical question, the base station continually tries to reduce power until the cell phone starts losing packets and requests resends. Then it goes up a couple of levels (there are a fair number of them, but I don't remember specifics) and starts reducing power again. There is no "power up" command for either the uplink or downlink, just a missing packet flag.
Marty
wwemu@cwnet.com - 26 Aug 2004 17:34 GMT I think that one thing folks are missing is that the authorized power for cellular service is 3 watts and that there are still a number of phones out there that put out the maximum power. The older bag phones and other mobile phones are the 3 watt variety. AFAIK, the only ones that are limited to the 0.6 watts are the little handheld phones that are so prevalent today. Also. I do not think that the earlier phones had the "variable power" that is being discussed here.
George
>> > AFAIK variable power is not unique to CDMA. And just how is that a >> > problem if the SA amp honors power level commands from the tower and [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >circuitry is appropriately optimized for network operation. >Features Power control logic to ensure maximum output power is within cellular
>and iDEN standards. Self-adjusting circuitry allows it to work with any cellular
>telephone/cradle combination. Network-compatible operation to ensure transmit power tracks the
>connected cellular or iDEN telephone output. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Jud Marty Bose - 28 Aug 2004 03:43 GMT Actually the 3W limit was for analog cellular; the 0.6W is for digital cellular. It is not a handheld phone issue, as there are lots of handheld radios in other bands that put out 5 watts or more.
Marty
> I think that one thing folks are missing is that the authorized power > for cellular service is 3 watts and that there are still a number of [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > > >Jud Jason Lee - 28 Aug 2004 07:49 GMT > Actually the 3W limit was for analog cellular; the 0.6W is for digital > cellular. 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