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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / August 2004

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Ham Radio in a Camper Question

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AT Commander - 24 Aug 2004 20:18 GMT
Just bought a 26' camper.  Anybody got hints or tips on running
feedlines?  Anybody got a reason why I can't use the TV feedline for
VHF and HF QRP (assuming I use a tuner or trim the antenna
accordingly)?  
Anybody experienced RF problems transmitting in a campground even when
using a filter?  Got an easy solution (other than the obvious "don't
transmit")?
- ATC

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Will Sill - 24 Aug 2004 20:32 GMT
I see where AT Commander <atcommander@adventureteam.com> contributed:
>Just bought a 26' camper.  Anybody got hints or tips on running
>feedlines?  Anybody got a reason why I can't use the TV feedline for
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>using a filter?  Got an easy solution (other than the obvious "don't
>transmit")?

"Can't" use the TV feedline is too strong but you're better off to use
coax with 50 ohm impedance to match your equipment.  Never had any
whines about transmitting from a CG, but then we don't stay for a week
and look for problems.   The "easy solution" to RFI problems is simply
to make sure your output is clean and that you use no more power than
necessary.  We operated on both 2m (50w max) and HF (100w max) without
difficulty.

Will Sill KD3XR
AT Commander - 24 Aug 2004 20:43 GMT
I thought about drilling another hole in the wall of my poor camper,
but thought if I could use the existing feedline it'd cause less
damage.  With a 72 ohm feedline, I thought I could just use a tuner
and call it good.  Mostly will be using 2w on 2m and my trusty HW-7 on
HF QRP CW, so we're not talking a lot of power here.  Typically I'll
just vary the length of my dipole to get a match (I use two camping
clothes line reels with a center dipole connector for the antenna,
which makes a de facto loading coil at shorter antenna lenghts - it's
tricky to tune up, but seems to work ok).
How did you handle your feedthrough?  Drilling, waterproofing, and all
that seems like a major undertaking for such a simple application and
occasional use...
- ATC

>"Can't" use the TV feedline is too strong but you're better off to use
>coax with 50 ohm impedance to match your equipment.  Never had any
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>
>Will Sill KD3XR

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Will Sill - 24 Aug 2004 20:55 GMT
I see where AT Commander <atcommander@adventureteam.com> opined:

>I thought about drilling another hole in the wall of my poor camper,
>but thought if I could use the existing feedline it'd cause less
>damage.  

For occasional use, run the coax out a window.

>How did you handle your feedthrough?  

Various ways - several rigs.   Through the floor and up the back with
RG-8 on MH's,  though I have a semi-permanent spring base for whips on
to roof of our class B, with a hole drilled though for the coax
w/rubber grommet and sealer.    In class C's with fibreglass skin, we
left the 2m ant inside.

IMO a hole for an antenna and/or feedline is not "damage" if it is
done right.   Very few of us will keep our RV's exactly as-delivered
for display at the Smithsonian, and if the hole(s) are sealed the next
owner will not care.

Besides, with QRP nobody can hear your anyway, right?  Hehehehe!

Will Sill
AT Commander - 24 Aug 2004 22:28 GMT
FLOOR!
Why didn't I think of that?
(Sound of hand striking forehead like the V8 commercial)
What a great way to run the feedline!!!
I can likely find an existing hole (around a pipe somewhere) that I
can enlarge enough for RG-58!  Then I can give it a shot of expanding
foam sealant and it'll be good to go!   If I run the line into the
storage area behind the dinette cushion, my little coil of coax will
be handy (near the table) and easy to get out and put away!
Now THAT's a tip I can sure use!  Problem solved!
Thank, Will!
73,
- ATC


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KØHB - 29 Aug 2004 18:24 GMT
> Anybody got hints or tips on running feedlines?

I have an Icom 706-MKIIG which allows me to put just the small control
head (faceplate) at a convenient place inside our 5th-wheel camper and I
mount the rest of the radio at a remote location in the "basement"
storage area.

Now the feedline (this rig has two) routing becomes a lot easier because
you don't need to worry any more about "pretty".   It also makes access
to a good solid 12V connection a lot easier, since you can usually make
a direct (fused) connection via heavy guage wire to your house 12VDC
battery.

> Anybody got a reason why I can't use the TV feedline for
> VHF and HF QRP (assuming I use a tuner or trim the antenna
> accordingly)?

Other than the obvious impedance mismatch, often the TV feedline is
wired through a pre-amp which pretty much farkles this solution.

> Anybody experienced RF problems transmitting in a campground even when
> using a filter?  Got an easy solution (other than the obvious "don't
> transmit")?

I've never run into a problem outside my own camper.   On one coach I
had to extensively "RFI-proof" the HVAC controls to avoid modulating my
AC compressor!

73, de Hans, K0HB
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