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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / August 2004Bad Campground Schemes - Please Help...
We (NAM) have received hundreds of complaints about abusive practices of certain membership camping schemes. We are drafting a letter to the US Federal Trade Commission (FTC) asking them to help fight those abusive practices. We Need Your Help ! Please read our draft letter and send us your comments/suggestions... The first draft of our letter is posted at: http://www.natlassoc.org/bad/camp/ I promise that we will not try to sell you anything or collect any personal information about you - we just need your comments and suggestions. Dan Hopper, Chmn National Association for Members [NAM]  Signature-- > Dan Hopper, Chmn > National Association for Members > [NAM] Why don't you explain just who the NAM is. You could be the national association for members of just about anything, like the assocation of gay ex-KKK members for all I know. Not that there is anything wrong with that... -john- Signature==================================================================== John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 john@johnweeks.com Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ==================================================================== >>Dan Hopper, Chmn >>National Association for Members [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -john- Dan Hopper has been around for ages. He is tireless in his quest battling the unscrupulous membership campground scammers. Check out the website he posted, then make comments. HD in CNY > >>Dan Hopper, Chmn > >>National Association for Members [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > scammers. Check out the website he posted, then make comments. > HD in CNY If that is the case, then I don't think it would be all that much trouble for the guy to include a one or two line blurb explaining what it is all about. If you expect the average person to take the trouble to bail out of USENET and bring up a web browser, you are going to lose that person most of the time. There needs to be some kind of up front reward for the effort. And if this is a legitimate organization, I would expect that they would be attempting to gather new members, and a breif blurb might encourage those of us who have never heard of the group to go check it out. If I have been in the business as long as I have and I hadn't heard of it, then perhaps there are other less experienced folks who lurk in these parts who also hadn't heard of NAM. -john- Signature==================================================================== John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 john@johnweeks.com Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ==================================================================== snipped > of the group to go check it out. If I have been in the business > as long as I have and I hadn't heard of it, then perhaps there > are other less experienced folks who lurk in these parts who > also hadn't heard of NAM. That's why I took the time to fill you in. I don't need to "bail out" of usenet. I just click on the link and my browser brings up the page. To regulars, the name Dan Hopper rings a bell. HD in CNY John A Weeks wrote: >There needs to be some kind of up front reward for the >effort. Spoken like a true gay ex KKKer! > > > > > > the assocation of gay ex-KKK members for all I know. > > > As an African American Bi Sexual KKK stay at home mom that likes to be tied up and violated I resent that ;-) PS- I know Dan Hopper. We spent a beautiful night together back in the middle 80's. He knows how to treat a lady. However I don't know if he knows a damn thing about campgrounds.? Hi again John, You appear to have asked a fair and an honest question. I hope I have answered it to your satisfaction. We (NAM) try very hard to avoid SPAM and the appearance of SPAM so we may not have offered as much information as we should have. We just naively assumed that others would take our posts at face value - or check us out at our web site. We don't sell memberships or anything else - We are just people who are concerned, we care, and we want to help others. Without knowing it and without trying too hard - you have become one of us - and you don't owe us any money or anything else. Your question has caused us to take a fresh look at how we approach others for help. What do you think about our draft letter? How do you think we can make it better? Dan ................... On 8/27/04 10:51 PM, in article 270820042151138093%john@johnweeks.com, "John A. Weeks III" wrote: >>>> Dan Hopper, Chmn >>>> National Association for Members [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > -john- > We (NAM) try very hard to avoid SPAM and the appearance of SPAM so we may > not have offered as much information as we should have. We just naively > assumed that others would take our posts at face value - or check us out at > our web site. If you are offering useful information to your carefully selected target group, which you are in fact doing, I don't consider it to be spam. I don't mind periodic updates, especially from non-profits who are passing along good information like your group is doing. -john- Signature==================================================================== John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 john@johnweeks.com Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ==================================================================== >Why don't you explain just who the NAM is. You could be the >national association for members of just about anything, like >the assocation of gay ex-KKK members for all I know. Not that >there is anything wrong with that... > >-john- A front for NAMBLA, maybe? I'm with you, this is altogether too vague, and I never heard of this person. Canoli >>Why don't you explain just who the NAM is. You could be the >>national association for members of just about anything, like [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Canoli Sure you have. Maybe it slips your mind at the moment but Dan has posted here many times in the past. He is involved in trying to nail campgrounds whose scamming methods have thousands out of unsuspecting buyers. He's to be commended for his efforts. HD in CNY Hi Mr. Canoli, Please read my repl(y/ies) to John. Dan ................... On 8/28/04 12:04 AM, in article s310j0lj62db1994tpgqtlgsvdffipe61g@4ax.com, >> Why don't you explain just who the NAM is. You could be the >> national association for members of just about anything, like [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Canoli Ok John, The National Association for Members of Campgrounds, Resorts, and Timeshares [NAM] is a non-profit 501(c)(3) organization that advocates for fair treatment of members of those kinds of organizations. We do not charge dues or fees. No payment is required for any help or service we can provide. All officers and members are unpaid volunteers. We work closely with government officials, attorneys, and others whenever we can to protect and enforce rights for "Members" of campground resorts, condominiums, and timeshares. More information is available at our web site about our organization and its objectives and activities. Our web site is at: http://www.natlassoc.org When I visit a campsite - I like to leave it a little bit cleaner, prettier, or somehow better than when I found it. I'm 64 years old. When I leave this life - I hope I can do the same thing... Other of our volunteers may have other reasons for helping - We just keep doing our best. This newsgroup can be an important sounding board for activities we engage in to try to accomplish these goals. Sincerely, Dan Hopper, Chairman NAM ................................. On 8/27/04 5:46 PM, in article 270820041646337251%john@johnweeks.com, "John A. Weeks III" wrote: >> Dan Hopper, Chmn >> National Association for Members [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -john- > We (NAM) have received hundreds of complaints about abusive practices of > certain membership camping schemes. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > National Association for Members > [NAM] Looks good to me Dan. Keep up the good work. HD in CNY |
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