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Car Forum / Saab Cars / March 2004'90 9000T Reverse Lights Out!?
When I put my '90 9000T into reverse, neither of the white reverse lights go on. I've checked the bulbs and the fuse but all were fine. Any ideas suggestions for what might be wrong? I looked in my Haynes book and it appears that the reverse light circuit goes includes an ignition relay located behind the glovebox fuses. I was going to try that next. As an aside, this car also has the strange behavior that every now and then when I turn the key *nothing* happens. After the third try the engine starts up. Could this all be related to a bad relay? Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! > When I put my '90 9000T into reverse, neither of the white reverse > lights go on. I've checked the bulbs and the fuse but all were fine. > > Any ideas suggestions for what might be wrong? Well, you don't mention that you checked the reverse light switch or that you actually checked that both bulbs haven't blown. > As an aside, this car also has the strange behavior that every now and > then when I turn the key *nothing* happens. After the third try the > engine starts up. My Aero does a similar thing but the starter motor turns, but the solenoid to pre-engage the starter gear doesn't energise. I'll get round to it sometime, same as you though, usually the 4th time does it. David. > > When I put my '90 9000T into reverse, neither of the white reverse > > lights go on. I've checked the bulbs and the fuse but all were fine. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > David. When you say *nothing* happens, do you mean that not only does the starter not turn, but the dash/ignition lights fail to illuminate too? That is what happened to my '97 9000. The Turn-Key-Nothing-At-All-Happens scenario turned out to be the ignition switch. A cheap and straightforward job in the end. It was a bit of pain to diagnose as it only did it very occasionally at first, before becoming a bit more regular, and finally it occurred almost all the time and became almost impossible to start. I suggest getting it fixed sooner rather than later as I left mine to the stage where the ignition switch was cutting out en route, meaning no engine, no PAS, no brake servo, an no lights at night! absgt 1997 9000 CSE 2.3t 1990 9000 2.0T > When you say *nothing* happens, do you mean that not only does the starter > not turn, but the dash/ignition lights fail to illuminate too? No, starter turns but the solenoid doesn't pre-engage the starter gear so the motor just spins without engaging with the flywheel gear. > > When you say *nothing* happens, do you mean that not only does the starter > > not turn, but the dash/ignition lights fail to illuminate too? > > No, starter turns but the solenoid doesn't pre-engage the starter gear > so the motor just spins without engaging with the flywheel gear. Is replacing the starter the solution to this problem, or is the solenoid a separate bit? > Is replacing the starter the solution to this problem, or is the solenoid a > separate bit? If you can get the solenoid on it's own, then that's all you need to replace. For many cars you can't get the solenoid as a separate item.  SignatureGrunff > > Is replacing the starter the solution to this problem, or is the solenoid a > > separate bit? > > If you can get the solenoid on it's own, then that's all you need to > replace. For many cars you can't get the solenoid as a separate item. I realize what you say is true as a general rule, but I was looking for an answer specific to the model being discussed (9000T). I also understand that even if a separate solenoid is available, it may have a greater cost and repair effort than buying the complete starter assembly from an aftermarket supplier. I was wondering which repair method others were using (or planning to use) for this problem on this vintage of car. > I realize what you say is true as a general rule, but I was looking for an > answer specific to the model being discussed (9000T). I also understand > that even if a separate solenoid is available, it may have a greater cost > and repair effort than buying the complete starter assembly from an > aftermarket supplier. I was wondering which repair method others were using > (or planning to use) for this problem on this vintage of car. Ah, I see. SignatureGrunff > and repair effort than buying the complete starter assembly from an > aftermarket supplier. I was wondering which repair method others were using > (or planning to use) for this problem on this vintage of car. Well when I get round to mine, I'll take a look at the solenoid, it might just be sticking then again it might not. I don't know until I get it off. :) David. > Is replacing the starter the solution to this problem, or is the solenoid a > separate bit? Should be able to work on it seperately. For my car '90 9000T I turn the key, lights come on, but no sound from the starter or engine. I try again, and again lights on, but no sounds from engine compartment, starter, etc... I try third time, the start tries and then the engine starts. Where is the solenoid on a '90 9000T located? I had the starter replaced once and I still have the same problem. > > > When I put my '90 9000T into reverse, neither of the white reverse > > > lights go on. I've checked the bulbs and the fuse but all were fine. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > 1997 9000 CSE 2.3t > 1990 9000 2.0T > Where is the solenoid on a '90 9000T located? I had the starter > replaced once and I still have the same problem. It's on top of the starter motor which is behind the engine, underneath the inlet manifold. Doesn't sound like that's your problem though but you'd need to put a meter on the energising lead to see if power is coming from the ignitions switch. David. > For my car '90 9000T > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Where is the solenoid on a '90 9000T located? I had the starter > replaced once and I still have the same problem. Your problem is the ignition switch, not the starter solenoid. -Fred W I did check both bulbs. Where is the reverse light switch located? > > When I put my '90 9000T into reverse, neither of the white reverse > > lights go on. I've checked the bulbs and the fuse but all were fine. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > David. > Where is the reverse light switch located? From the diagram that I have, I think it's on the top right hand side of the gear box, facing the nearside wing at the rear of the end plate. |
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