Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
HomeAnnouncements
Discussion Groups
By Brand
BMWChevroletDodgeFordGMHondaLexusMercedes-BenzNissanPeugeotToyotaVolkswagenOther Brands
By Topic
4x4 CarsRVsDrivingMaintenance & RepairCar AudioCollectible Cars
Country Specific
Australian ForumsUK Forums
ArticlesAuto InsuranceBuyingCars & TechnologyMaintenanceMiscellaneousSafety
DMV Resources
Related Topics
MotorcyclesBoatsMore Topics ...

Car Forum / Saab Cars / June 2004

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Just had my worse nightmare.......

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
MeatballTurbo - 24 Jun 2004 19:30 GMT
Just got off the motorway, first stretch of road fine, then approaching
the 1st roundabout just changing down to second, suddenly died without
warning while on overrun.
Clutched in quick, turned it over, fired up and started off agin.
Got to some slow traffic, and then every time it dropped to idle speed,
or on over-run, it would die. Worst 15 mins of my driving life, slowing
through the gears while braking, then trying to dip the clutch, and use
the handbrake (crawling speed) to keep the revs up with my other foot.

Had had some pretty heavy rain coming home, and wondered if something
had gotten wet. The wondered if the clutch was going an it was dragging,
so it was slowing the engine to a stall without gas.

The  eventually got home with a face like thunder, had a sit down and a
clam down, and went out, and tried it out of gear, still wouldn't idle.

Popped the bonnet, checked the throttle cable hadn't slipped, and that
the dash pot was still working. All good.
Checked for broken or shorting wiring. All good.
Checked the vac hoses. All good.
Then I noticed, the hose from the rocker cover to the intake manifold
was off. Popped it back on, and it idled sweetly again. Popped it off,
immediate death of the engine.

On mine it was two short braided rubber lengths, pushed into the ends of
a fatter piece of plain rubber pipe.

One of the braided ends had come out of the fatter rubber pipe.

So as a precaution I have replaced it with a length of silicon VAC hose
in a fetching shade of blue to match all the other VAC hoses. Fired it
up, never ran so sweetly.

God was I relieved.

Signature

Carl Robson
(The poster formerly known as Skodapilot)
http://www.bouncing-czechs.com

Paul Halliday - 24 Jun 2004 19:39 GMT
<snip>The story</snip>
> God was I relieved.

Bad news ... And good news. I've had some similar problems in the same area
recently. I really is worrying when you get sudden death. Glad you're okay
given the potential danger of the situation.

Paul
Dave Hinz - 24 Jun 2004 19:42 GMT
> Clutched in quick, turned it over, fired up and started off agin.
> Got to some slow traffic, and then every time it dropped to idle speed,
> or on over-run, it would die. Worst 15 mins of my driving life, slowing
> through the gears while braking, then trying to dip the clutch, and use
> the handbrake (crawling speed) to keep the revs up with my other foot.

Sounds like an air/vacuum leak, mate.

> Then I noticed, the hose from the rocker cover to the intake manifold
> was off. Popped it back on, and it idled sweetly again. Popped it off,
> immediate death of the engine.

Ah.  Yup, makes sense.

> So as a precaution I have replaced it with a length of silicon VAC hose
> in a fetching shade of blue to match all the other VAC hoses. Fired it
> up, never ran so sweetly.

I've also had similar symptoms on a c900 when I over-stomped the
loud pedal, resulting in the pressure hose on the cold side of the
turbo blowing off.  Gravity held it in place, usually, but under
boost it'd blow loose again & performance sucked accordingly.  
That one was just a hose clamp tightening at the side of the road -
funny thing was, I had diagnosed the failure (correctly) before
pulling over, despite never having had the problem nor heard of it
before.  Just something about how it was breathing, y'know?

Dave
Johannes H Andersen - 24 Jun 2004 20:20 GMT
[...]
> Then I noticed, the hose from the rocker cover to the intake manifold
> was off. Popped it back on, and it idled sweetly again. Popped it off,
> immediate death of the engine.

Once had something similar. The small diameter hose wasn't off, but
was split at one end, the split invisible from above. I diagnosed it by
the unusual whistling noise, cut off an inch and refitted.
Fred W. - 24 Jun 2004 21:08 GMT
> Just got off the motorway, first stretch of road fine, then approaching
> the 1st roundabout just changing down to second, suddenly died without
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> God was I relieved.

MT,

Been there.  Done that.  Got the skid marks in the pants to prove it.

One word for you in prevention of future recurrance:  tie-wraps

...well I suppose technically that is two words hyphenated, but hey, where's
the drama in that?  ;-)

-Fred W
MeatballTurbo - 24 Jun 2004 23:06 GMT
> > Just got off the motorway, first stretch of road fine, then approaching
> > the 1st roundabout just changing down to second, suddenly died without
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> ...well I suppose technically that is two words hyphenated, but hey, where's
> the drama in that?  ;-)

First thing I did after replacing the hose, tie wrapped on now.

I guess, with all that un-metred air going straight into the manifold,
it was leaning out so far it couldn't run on idle only.

Signature

Carl Robson
(The poster formerly known as Skodapilot)
http://www.bouncing-czechs.com

Fred W. - 25 Jun 2004 14:50 GMT
> I guess, with all that un-metred air going straight into the manifold,
> it was leaning out so far it couldn't run on idle only.

Yep, the un-metered air leak is a much larger percentage of total intake air
volume at idle than at any other throtle position.

Oh no.  Something that makes sense!!  ;-)

-Fred W
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2008 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.