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Car Forum / Saab Cars / August 2004

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Buying a new Saab

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Dave - 10 Jul 2004 18:45 GMT
I'm hoping to buy a new 9-5 Aero. (in the UK)
The brochure price says it's ?27,885
Can anyone tell me is this the price a dealer would charge or could I
"haggle" on the price?
(If it makes any difference, I would be p/x-ing my car, which is worth about
?9,000)
Also, what is the timescale for delivery times?

Many Thanks

Dave

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Paul Halliday - 10 Jul 2004 18:53 GMT
> I'm hoping to buy a new 9-5 Aero. (in the UK)

Good car.

> The brochure price says it's £27,885

Sounds cheap - no extras?

> Can anyone tell me is this the price a dealer would charge or could I
> "haggle" on the price?
> (If it makes any difference, I would be p/x-ing my car, which is worth about
> £9,000)

Everything is open to negotiation if you negotiate correctly.

> Also, what is the timescale for delivery times?

9 months, or thereabouts?
Johannes H Andersen - 10 Jul 2004 19:58 GMT
> I'm hoping to buy a new 9-5 Aero. (in the UK)
> The brochure price says it's £27,885
> Can anyone tell me is this the price a dealer would charge or could I
> "haggle" on the price?

Auto Express lists the car as £27,400 but suggest 'Aim-to-pay' £24,602.
Options can make a lot of difference, the sky is the limit if you go
down that route.

Have you thought about personal import? Don't leave money with middlemen,
deal directly with main dealer in your chosen country.
Dave - 10 Jul 2004 19:14 GMT
I'll put the Lux pack on it (?1480). That's the only extra I want.
"Everything is open to negotiation if you negotiate correctly." - Any tips
for negotiating price?
Despite the savings, I don't want to import.
....and the delivery time??? (no baby jokes again please!)

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Paul Halliday - 10 Jul 2004 19:23 GMT
> I'll put the Lux pack on it (£1480). That's the only extra I want.
> "Everything is open to negotiation if you negotiate correctly." - Any tips
> for negotiating price?

Make sure you have a "fantasy" price from another dealer - close enough to
make them drop the price a little more ... Failing that, threaten an import
direct from Sweden?

Negotiation might well get you that extras pack thrown in for the standard
price. I think you'd be lucky for more than that without importing ... Have
a think though .. You can pick it up from Trollhättan (cost about and extra
300 UKP flight/inland travel and whatever petrol you need to get home) and
visit the museum while you're there.

Are you after the sedan or the wagon? I'm a sedan fancier, myself :) The 9-5
sedan reminds me very much of the old(er) 9000 CD model.

Paul
Dave - 10 Jul 2004 19:34 GMT
> > I'll put the Lux pack on it (?1480). That's the only extra I want.
> > "Everything is open to negotiation if you negotiate correctly." - Any tips
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> price. I think you'd be lucky for more than that without importing ... Have
> a think though .. You can pick it up from Trollh?ttan (cost about and
extra
> 300 UKP flight/inland travel and whatever petrol you need to get home) and
> visit the museum while you're there.
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>
> Paul

I nearly bought an ex-demo from a dealer - it was up for ?26,000, only 3
months old. They offered me ?8,000 for mine, I said the book price was
?9,300, he said "it's only worth what someone wants to pay for it" I said,
drop ?1,000 on the 9-5 and I'll think about it...he said no chance. That's
why I think if I go into a dealer and I say "I'm looking to pay ?26,000 for
a new one" they'll just laugh at me!!
I'm after the saloon/sedan model.

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Paul Halliday - 10 Jul 2004 20:30 GMT
>> in article ccpblo$c31$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk, Dave at Dave@Home.con wrote
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> a new one" they'll just laugh at me!!
> I'm after the saloon/sedan model.

Dave -

"Well, I'm looking to change my car ... I really like the 330Ci that guy
down the road wants to sell me, so why should I buy this 9-5? Can you chuck
in some extras?"

"Those Merc 500s are nice, but this 9-5 looks way more classy ... What can
you do for me?"

You've got 30 grand to spend - make the f.ckers work for it. You're the one
with the money - they want it. Who cares there's a car in the middle? Go in
with that "I'll leave if I don't get what I want" attitude and get what you
want. There's plenty of dealers out there and yes, they do talk to each
other, but they all want that sale!

Paul
Henrik B. - 12 Jul 2004 11:06 GMT
> You've got 30 grand to spend - make the f.ckers work for it. You're the one
> with the money - they want it. Who cares there's a car in the middle? Go in
> with that "I'll leave if I don't get what I want" attitude and get what you
> want. There's plenty of dealers out there and yes, they do talk to each
> other, but they all want that sale!

Jep. Another thing is to go back a week or two later and ask if they've
reconsidered the price. This is also showing the dealer that you're serious.
If he doesn't drop the price further down at the first reaccurance - do it
again a couple of weeks later.

Cheers!
David Taylor - 13 Jul 2004 21:04 GMT
> reconsidered the price. This is also showing the dealer that you're serious.
> If he doesn't drop the price further down at the first reaccurance - do it
> again a couple of weeks later.

Also, find out when their end of year is and also drop by at accounting
month end. :)
Johannes H Andersen - 10 Jul 2004 20:39 GMT
> > I'll put the Lux pack on it (£1480). That's the only extra I want.
> > "Everything is open to negotiation if you negotiate correctly." - Any tips
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> Are you after the sedan or the wagon? I'm a sedan fancier, myself :) The 9-5
> sedan reminds me very much of the old(er) 9000 CD model.

There was a TV program a while ago, quite revealing about a car dealer.
They followed this car dealer around in his daily work, and he slipped some
interesting secrets. On one occasion a couple wanted to buy a car. Dealers
love couples because they can play them up against each other. After some
time the dealer left the couple by themselves to come to their own
conclusions. The dealer, however, 'forgot' his little calculator on the
coffee table. As you perhaps have guessed, the calculator contained a
small FM transmitter such that the dealer could listen in on the bottom
line that couple was prepared to accept!
Paul Halliday - 10 Jul 2004 21:02 GMT
on 10/07/2004 20:39:

>>> I'll put the Lux pack on it (£1480). That's the only extra I want.
>>> "Everything is open to negotiation if you negotiate correctly." - Any tips
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> small FM transmitter such that the dealer could listen in on the bottom
> line that couple was prepared to accept!

That's an interesting story - in the information war, information is power.
Why not go as a couple and play the salesman. When a cold call comes through
on your phone trying to sell you double glazing, why not say "hell, yeah!
can you do all 35 windows?" ... I've played the credit card system and now
have somewhere in excess of a seriously silly figure at my disposal if I
want it. Given a terminal disease, I'll take it ... In my name alone!

Information is power - don't fob off people trying to sell you something ...
They're the ones profiling you (mostly for other companies) ... Tell them
what you want them to hear! Tell them something you want one of your
favourite companies to hear ...
Johannes H Andersen - 11 Jul 2004 00:01 GMT
[...]

> Information is power - don't fob off people trying to sell you something ...
> They're the ones profiling you (mostly for other companies) ... Tell them
> what you want them to hear! Tell them something you want one of your
> favourite companies to hear ...

Quite. A typical salesman confronted with a trade-in car will try to be
chummy with you and at the right moment typically ask: "Tell me the lowest
possible trade-in price that you have in mind for your car and we'll see
if we can up it a bit..."  Need say no more in this distinguished group...
Paul Halliday - 10 Jul 2004 23:15 GMT
on 11/07/2004 00:01:

> [...]
>>
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> possible trade-in price that you have in mind for your car and we'll see
> if we can up it a bit..."  Need say no more in this distinguished group...

The last car I bought (a Fiat Punto Sporting, of all things .. Tut!) was
good fun. Having established that I was not going to get a discount for cash
from the salesman ("we don't make any money that way..."), I jumped at the
chance for 500 quid off the price to take their "90 day to back out if you
don't like it" HP scheme ... Which I paid off immediately :) I also got 700
quid more than the market value (probably about 300 quid) for the 1993
Hyundai Scoupe I traded in!

Punto Sportings of that vintage are *still* shifting for the price I paid
almost two years ago. Bargain! ... It's a fun car too, but I'm not sure I
like being told it's a "sweet ride" by Burberry cap wearing types in
Halford's car park ("Does it look like my f'ckn car? It's my wife's,
godammit") :))))

Paul

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Dave - 10 Jul 2004 23:25 GMT
Thanks guys.
:-)

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Paul Halliday - 10 Jul 2004 23:28 GMT
> Thanks guys.
> :-)

Happy haggling - remember that you're the one with the money (and therefore
the power).

Good luck,

Paul
Johannes H Andersen - 11 Jul 2004 00:39 GMT
> Thanks guys.
> :-)

Good luck with your new car.
Johannes H Andersen - 11 Jul 2004 00:37 GMT
> on 11/07/2004 00:01:
>
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> Halford's car park ("Does it look like my f'ckn car? It's my wife's,
> godammit") :))))

The TV program I mentioned also featured an American salesman on loan
to their UK department. Some of you might have seen the program. The
idea was to see if the American could sell more cars using his much
more forward and loud approach, while the British salesman is more
aloof and makes his customers work harder to get his attention. It was
quite fun to watch. At first it seems obvious that the American's more
energetic approach would teach the British a lesson, but lo and behold,
the American lost out in the end to the British salesman, understand
it those who can?
David Taylor - 13 Jul 2004 21:03 GMT
> energetic approach would teach the British a lesson, but lo and behold,
> the American lost out in the end to the British salesman, understand
> it those who can?

The reason was simple, it wasn't a traditional car dealership where the
sales droids are on commission but instead a car supermarket where the
sales negotiator simply gave you the keys and juggled several people at
once instead of devoting an hour to one customer.

Numbers game, that's all.

David.
Paul Halliday - 10 Jul 2004 19:15 GMT
on 10/07/2004 19:58:

> Have you thought about personal import? Don't leave money with middlemen,
> deal directly with main dealer in your chosen country.

ANA Trollhättan - the purest ... Straight from the dealer closest to the
source :)

Paul
Charles Christacopoulos - 11 Jul 2004 03:05 GMT
> I'm hoping to buy a new 9-5 Aero. (in the UK)
> The brochure price says it's £27,885
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>
> Dave

I think you are trying to achieve two things at the same time.  Get a
discount on the new car AND top price for your part exchange.  I think
you may be unrealistic to expect both, so work on the basis of the price
to change.

Ithink the norm is you get one or the other ... but all the best if you
can get both.

Regards
Charles

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Steph - 27 Aug 2004 03:07 GMT
Yep sure can. Make friends with someone on a US military base rapidly.
Real cars, real cheap, delivery is a scant two weeks.

Park the shitbox and come inside!

Steph

>I'm hoping to buy a new 9-5 Aero. (in the UK)
>The brochure price says it's £27,885
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