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vince - 10 Oct 2004 17:27 GMT
Recently I ran across a couple of articles addressing the removal of the
axle from the cv. This is the outboard drivers side boot that needs
replacement. The articles state once you loosen the lower ball joint from
the lower A frame, spread the circlip and the axle should separate easily.
Well, I cant's seem to get to remove "easily". How much force is needed to
make this separation? Any suggestions? Thanks.
MH - 10 Oct 2004 18:40 GMT
> Well, I cant's seem to get to remove "easily". How much force is
>  needed to  make this separation?

On the 95/96/97 you have to take out the hub+axles and hit the inner race of
the CV joint real hard with a big hammer. In most cases the axle will then
slip out of the CV joint and the boots can be replaced. If the axle does not
come out, you can try to pull the new boots over the T - and hope it does
not tear.

On the 99 and 900 the middle axle does not have to come out of the outer CV
joint. You can take the 3 roller joint off the axle and replace the boots.

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'87 900T8
Grunff - 10 Oct 2004 19:40 GMT
> On the 99 and 900 the middle axle does not have to come out of the outer CV
> joint. You can take the 3 roller joint off the axle and replace the boots.

Only if you're crazy ;-)

The spider joint is *a lot* more difficult to remove from the shaft than
the CV joint is. Soooo much more difficult. Mucho.

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MH - 10 Oct 2004 20:18 GMT
> > On the 99 and 900 the middle axle does not have to come out of the outer CV
> > joint. You can take the 3 roller joint off the axle and replace the boots.

> Only if you're crazy ;-)

Sure, why else do we drive SAABs?

> The spider joint is *a lot* more difficult to remove from the shaft than
> the CV joint is. Soooo much more difficult. Mucho.

For the 99/900 I  was quoting Chapter 8.4.6/7 of Haynes '79-'88 900 (page
141). This seems to be the standard procedure:

"6. Extract the circlip and remove the inner joint spider, then remove the
inner circlip (early models).
7. Release the clips and slide the bellows from the driveshaft as
necessary."

What SAAB type are we talking about anyway?

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'72 97 '77 96 '78 95 '79 96
'87 900T8
Grunff - 10 Oct 2004 20:43 GMT
> For the 99/900 I  was quoting Chapter 8.4.6/7 of Haynes '79-'88 900 (page
> 141). This seems to be the standard procedure:
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>
> What SAAB type are we talking about anyway?

I'm talking about 99s + 900s. I know the Haynes procedure, and I was
even foolish enough to try it first time round (many years ago). If I
ever meet the guy who wrote it...

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MH - 10 Oct 2004 20:39 GMT
> > What SAAB type are we talking about anyway?
> I'm talking about 99s + 900s.
> I know the Haynes procedure,

Haynes leans heavily on the original SAAB workshop manuals.

> and I was even foolish enough to try it first time round (many years ago).
> If I  ever meet the guy who wrote it...

Maybe it was a troll...
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MH
'72 97 '77 96 '78 95 '79 96
'87 900T8
Johannes H Andersen - 10 Oct 2004 20:34 GMT
> > On the 99 and 900 the middle axle does not have to come out of the outer CV
> > joint. You can take the 3 roller joint off the axle and replace the boots.
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> Grunff

I remember that I've read about cv boots that were open such that they
could be fitted around the axle without dismantling it, and then joined
up by some method or other?
Grunff - 10 Oct 2004 20:44 GMT
> I remember that I've read about cv boots that were open such that they
> could be fitted around the axle without dismantling it, and then joined
> up by some method or other?

You can get glue together ones, but they have lifetimes in hundreds of
miles. Definitely worth avoiding.

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vince - 11 Oct 2004 02:43 GMT
This an 84 900T. Cant remove the circlip. Removing the circlip is supposed
to let the axle free up so one can put a boot on without removing the whole
axle.
> Recently I ran across a couple of articles addressing the removal of the
> axle from the cv. This is the outboard drivers side boot that needs
> replacement. The articles state once you loosen the lower ball joint from
> the lower A frame, spread the circlip and the axle should separate easily.
> Well, I cant's seem to get to remove "easily". How much force is needed to
> make this separation? Any suggestions? Thanks.
Charles Christacopoulos - 11 Oct 2004 08:16 GMT
> This an 84 900T. Cant remove the circlip. Removing the circlip is supposed
> to let the axle free up so one can put a boot on without removing the whole
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>>Well, I cant's seem to get to remove "easily". How much force is needed to
>>make this separation? Any suggestions? Thanks.

Yes there is a circlip on the shaft that is holding on the CV joint.  It
will be covered in greace.

I always removed a few more bolts and took off the hub including the
shaft.  Unless you can work upright underneath the car you will have fun
trying to open the circlip whilst you hold the shaft back and tap the
hub off :-)

If it helps at all.
Charles

PS. To take off the complete hub you need to jam the suspension up (also
I would put spring compressors on ... just in case), then remove the 4
bolts that hold the two ball joints on the wishbones, remove brake
caliper, loosen steering connnection, and undo circlip from the inner
boot of the driveshaft.  Read the manual.

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Grunff - 11 Oct 2004 09:07 GMT
> This an 84 900T. Cant remove the circlip. Removing the circlip is supposed
> to let the axle free up so one can put a boot on without removing the whole
> axle.

You mean the circlip at the CV joint? Why can't you remove it? Have you
found it? It has two fingets which need to be prised apart (I usually do
this with a pair of long-nose pliers), and it will then just pop off.

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