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Car Forum / Saab Cars / January 2005

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HELP: 9-3 cluth replaced. Gear's change very stiff

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Shuaib - 02 Jan 2005 23:37 GMT
I would be very grateful for some help. I have a 1998/9 Saab 9-3 2.0
SE Turbo.

Over the weekend the local garage replaced my clutch (the previous one
was completely worn out). Now with the introduction of the new clutch,
I encounter the following symptoms:

1. The cluth engages very early - I barely have to lift my foot and
the car leaps forward. In fact, with the clutch down completely the
car will still move slowly on flat ground when in 1st gear.

2. The gear changes are now very stiff when I initally start the car
and drive off. It takes real effort to engage 1st and reverse gear.

3. After driving 5-10 mins the gear changing becomes much easier -
although the clutch is still engaging very early. The car seems to
drive much better at this point when warmed up.

My questions are, is this typical after replacing the clutch and will
things become bearable once the cluth has some use, or is this
something that points to problems of a more serious kind.

Many thanks in advance for your help.

-- Shuaib
Johannes H Andersen - 03 Jan 2005 00:09 GMT
> I would be very grateful for some help. I have a 1998/9 Saab 9-3 2.0
> SE Turbo.
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> things become bearable once the cluth has some use, or is this
> something that points to problems of a more serious kind.

It could well need a new master hydraulic cylinder, but the garage
shouldn't have left the car it in that state, as it is not safe to drive
if the car can creep forward. Complain to the garage that they didn't
complete the job.
Grunff - 03 Jan 2005 02:56 GMT
> I would be very grateful for some help. I have a 1998/9 Saab 9-3 2.0
> SE Turbo.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> things become bearable once the cluth has some use, or is this
> something that points to problems of a more serious kind.

This is not typical, and is not good.

It is very likely that the system hasn't been fully bled. There is air
in the hydraulics, which is causing the clutch to drag (never fully
disengage). This is bad for the clutch and bad for the gearbox.

Take the car back to the garage and get them to bleed it (or do it
yourself - it's a fairly simple procedure).

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John B - 03 Jan 2005 14:34 GMT
> 2. The gear changes are now very stiff when I initally start the car
> and drive off. It takes real effort to engage 1st and reverse gear.

I wouldn't drive it in this condition if I were you, since you are likely
putting lots of wear on the gearbox by shifting when the clutch is still
partially engaged.

John
dave - 04 Jan 2005 01:04 GMT
>I would be very grateful for some help. I have a 1998/9 Saab 9-3 2.0
> SE Turbo.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Many thanks in advance for your help.

It would appear one of two things has happened.

1.  The master or slave cylinder have bought the farm.
2.  The clutch hydraulics need to have the air bled out.

I would ensure that the hydraulics are properly bled by the mechanic prior
to allowing him to sell you new master and slave cylinders.

dave
 
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