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Car Forum / Saab Cars / February 2005

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Heated Seat Question

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LC - 02 Feb 2005 04:59 GMT
My heated Front Driver's seat died on me today.(85 900T) Hopefully it's not
an omen.  Just curious how I'd go about troubleshooting the problem.  The
passenger seat still works, so I don't think it's a fuse.  Any guesses?  It
just went out for no reason.. I've been using it a bit lately since it's
been cold, but no problems with it.  Any help would be most appreciated.

Thanks!
-Larry
James Sweet - 02 Feb 2005 05:02 GMT
> My heated Front Driver's seat died on me today.(85 900T) Hopefully it's not
> an omen.  Just curious how I'd go about troubleshooting the problem.  The
> passenger seat still works, so I don't think it's a fuse.  Any guesses?  It
> just went out for no reason.. I've been using it a bit lately since it's
> been cold, but no problems with it.  Any help would be most appreciated.

Start by checking for voltage at the seat with the switch on, if it's
present, then remove the seat and go from there. I haven't yet pulled apart
a Saab seat, but the usual problem with Volvo seat heaters is that the wire
breaks off at the thermostat under the upholstery, not hard to fix once you
figure out how to get it apart. Could be something as simple as the seat
occupancy sensor if it has one.
LC - 02 Feb 2005 10:13 GMT
Oddly enough.  I don't think there's an occupancy switch.  The passenger
seat comes on(at least the light does) whenever I flip the switch.

>> My heated Front Driver's seat died on me today.(85 900T) Hopefully it's
> not
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> figure out how to get it apart. Could be something as simple as the seat
> occupancy sensor if it has one.
Gary Fritz - 02 Feb 2005 17:32 GMT
> Oddly enough.  I don't think there's an occupancy switch.  The
> passenger seat comes on(at least the light does) whenever I flip
> the switch.

True.  My passenger seat will get hot with nobody sitting there.  
Doesn't seem like a good idea, but I guess Saab figured you oughta be
responsible enough to turn it off when you're not using it.
Richard Sutherland-Smith - 02 Feb 2005 19:32 GMT
> > Oddly enough.  I don't think there's an occupancy switch.  The
> > passenger seat comes on(at least the light does) whenever I flip
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> Doesn't seem like a good idea, but I guess Saab figured you oughta be
> responsible enough to turn it off when you're not using it.
There is usually a spring-switch under the seat, operated by the weight
of the passenger to prevent this happening. Check it hasn't been
stretched, so it is always ON.
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 19 Webb Road, Wanganui 5001,
 New Zealand

Gary Fritz - 03 Feb 2005 03:54 GMT
>> True.  My passenger seat will get hot with nobody sitting there.
> There is usually a spring-switch under the seat, operated by the
> weight of the passenger to prevent this happening. Check it hasn't
> been stretched, so it is always ON.

Um, I'm not quite sure how to.  And it seems unlikely, as the car is
only 2.5 yrs old.  A large percentage of the time nobody's in the
passenger seat.

Gary
Richard Sutherland-Smith - 03 Feb 2005 09:12 GMT
> >> True.  My passenger seat will get hot with nobody sitting there.
> > There is usually a spring-switch under the seat, operated by the
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>
> Gary
What car is it?
If it is young enough it should have a dash switch, then you can switch
it off.
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 New Zealand

Gary Fritz - 04 Feb 2005 05:45 GMT
> What car is it?
> If it is young enough it should have a dash switch, then you can
> switch it off.

It's a 2002 9-5 Aero, and it DOES have a dash switch.  (Don't all
models with seat heaters?  Otherwise it'd be boiling your butt all
summer.)

But James and Richard both indicate at least some models have an
occupancy switch as well.
James Sweet - 04 Feb 2005 05:53 GMT
> > What car is it?
> > If it is young enough it should have a dash switch, then you can
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> But James and Richard both indicate at least some models have an
> occupancy switch as well.

Most of them should, or a good in-seat thermostat, otherwise it could burn
up if left switched on with nobody in the seat, I saw an old Volvo seat once
that had the foam badly burned and melted and the seat heater was completely
melted down.
MH - 04 Feb 2005 13:13 GMT
>  It's a 2002 9-5 Aero, and it DOES have a dash switch.
>  (Don't all models with seat heaters?

No, some only have a thermostatic switch in the seat.

> at least some models have an occupancy switch as well.

yes, also for the safety belt warning light (no need to light the light if
there's no passenger)

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MH
'72 97 '77 96 '78 95 '79 96
'87 900T8
http://go.to/saab96
John B - 02 Feb 2005 17:41 GMT
> My heated Front Driver's seat died on me today.(85 900T) Hopefully it's not
> an omen.  Just curious how I'd go about troubleshooting the problem.  The

This is common with c900 heated seats. Usually it's due to the element breaking
somewhere. It's easy enough to see where once you peel back the upholstery,
since it generally leaves a burn mark in the foam. Search around on google,
there are various Saab-specific heated seat repair guides available.

John
MH - 02 Feb 2005 18:44 GMT
> This is common with c900 heated seats.

And the 95/96

> Usually it's due to the element breaking
> somewhere

Disconnect the heater element wires under the seat and test for continuity.
If there is none, the heater wire is broken/disconnected in the seat,
usually at the terminals of the thermostat switch in the seat.

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MH
'72 97 '77 96 '78 95 '79 96
'87 900T8
http://go.to/saab96
ma_twain - 03 Feb 2005 03:53 GMT
>>This is common with c900 heated seats.
>
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> '87 900T8
> http://go.to/saab96

This is also common in Volvo seats.  The heat element breaks, often when
someone kneels on the seat or stands on the seat.
I have the best of both worlds - a 245 turbo and a C900 turbo - both
with manual transmissions :-) Different cars, different rides.
 
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