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Car Forum / Saab Cars / February 2005

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How does the CPU figure out how much gas?

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WitchDr - 31 Jan 2005 03:23 GMT
Ok, this has probably been asked many times but does anyone have a good idea
how the Saab computer figures out how much fuel is left and how much fuel
gets added? Is their gas gage that good?
Dave Hinz - 31 Jan 2005 16:12 GMT
> Ok, this has probably been asked many times but does anyone have a good idea
> how the Saab computer figures out how much fuel is left and how much fuel
> gets added? Is their gas gage that good?

Well, the injection computer knows exactly how much gas it's injecting...
They may do it that way, or they may just take an elapsed miles vs.
percent of tank used calculation, similar to "download time remaining"
calculations and dozens of other uses.  I'd guess the latter.

Dave Hinz
Colin Stamp - 31 Jan 2005 17:14 GMT
>Ok, this has probably been asked many times but does anyone have a good idea
>how the Saab computer figures out how much fuel is left and how much fuel
>gets added? Is their gas gage that good?

As Dave says, the ECU tells the SID how fast it's squirting fuel into
the engine.
It uses the same sender as the fuel gauge to find out how full the
tank is. The MPG calculation only needs the ECU/speedo data and is
quite accurate, but the DTE calculation needs the fuel sender info as
well. Because of that, it isn't nearly so accurate - mine often reads
more when I start up after parking on a hill than when I parked. Very
handy as a rough guide though.

Cheers,

Colin.
Martin Rich - 01 Feb 2005 09:08 GMT
>It uses the same sender as the fuel gauge to find out how full the
>tank is. The MPG calculation only needs the ECU/speedo data and is
>quite accurate, but the DTE calculation needs the fuel sender info as
>well. Because of that, it isn't nearly so accurate - mine often reads
>more when I start up after parking on a hill than when I parked. Very
>handy as a rough guide though.

I'd noticed this effect - sometimes quite dramatically when the tank
is close to empty, since in practice I use the DTE indication to see
how low I really am once the 'low fuel' light comes on.  I've also
noticed the DTE increasing while on the move, particularly if you
accelerate away from a stop and then cruise for a while.

Martin
Pooh Bear - 02 Feb 2005 04:52 GMT
> >It uses the same sender as the fuel gauge to find out how full the
> >tank is. The MPG calculation only needs the ECU/speedo data and is
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> noticed the DTE increasing while on the move, particularly if you
> accelerate away from a stop and then cruise for a while.

Indeed - any such system has to take into account current consumption as
well as average. Therefore it can only ever be an estimate until the
tank's nearly empty at which point you'll notice the low fuel indicator
anyway.

Graham
Tom Reingold - 04 Feb 2005 21:59 GMT
For what it's worth, I check my gas mileage when I fill up, and the
computer on the dashboard is always 8% optimistic compared with my
measurements. So something is not calibrated right. Not that it really
matters.

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The Malt Hound - 04 Feb 2005 23:08 GMT
> For what it's worth, I check my gas mileage when I fill up, and the
> computer on the dashboard is always 8% optimistic compared with my
> measurements. So something is not calibrated right. Not that it
> really matters.

Perhaps you are pessimistic Tom?  ;-)   Or perhaps those "joisey"
pumps are calibrated on the optimistic side?  That wouldn't surpise
anyone, I don't think...

-Fred W

PS - good to see you posting.
Tom Reingold - 07 Feb 2005 18:46 GMT
>>For what it's worth, I check my gas mileage when I fill up, and the
>>computer on the dashboard is always 8% optimistic compared with my
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>
> PS - good to see you posting.

I record and calculate every gas purchase, and each one is 8% worse than
the car's efficiency, so no, I doubt every pump is ripping me off.

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