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Car Forum / Saab Cars / February 2005C900 heater control
Hi folks, got my C900 Aero, yes I think it is,(see my previous post) there is an intercooler and it goes like a rocket. Very pleased. However, some toe-rag broke into it before I bought it, and whilst ripping out the stereo the heat control got pulled off the linkage at the heater end. Whats the easiest way in, I need to get to the heater end of the control rod to fix/reconect. Do I need to remove the whole dashboard :-( or is there a simpler way? Also best place for s-hand C900 parts in West Yorkshire, your opinion? Need interior bits to fix damaged dash, centre console etc. Many thanks Al > got my C900 Aero, yes I think it is,(see my previous post) there is an > intercooler and it goes like a rocket. Very pleased. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > control rod to fix/reconect. Do I need to remove the whole dashboard > :-( or is there a simpler way? If all you want to do is reconnect the rod, you can do it though the passenger side speaker grille. Just make sure you have small hands, or enlist the help of somone who has.  SignatureGrunff When you say passenger, do you mean LHS or RHS of the car (Looking forwards) I am UK based and my passenger sdie is LHS. Cheers > When you say passenger, do you mean LHS or RHS of the car (Looking > forwards) I am UK based and my passenger sdie is LHS. I'm also in the UK. LHS. SignatureGrunff Now I had you down as American, but maybe I was confusing you with Fred W many thanks. > Now I had you down as American No, Devon, England. > but maybe I was confusing you with > Fred W I'm flattered. SignatureGrunff >> Now I had you down as American > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I'm flattered. ...as am I. He must have confused us because we are both smart enough to drive both SAABs and BMWs. -Fred W >When you say passenger, do you mean LHS or RHS of the car (Looking >forwards) I am UK based and my passenger sdie is LHS. That's why I said left-side in my post. Australia is a RHD country just like the UK. 8-) Craig. SignatureCraig's Saab C900 Page --> http://lios.apana.org.au/~c900 Sydney, NSW Australia Craig's Saab C900 Workshop -- For all Saab C900 Enthusiasts world-wide! http://www.saab900classic.net http://www.saab900.org c900@lios.apana.org.au Come and explore our site, and check out our web-forums, mailing list, etc. >>When you say passenger, do you mean LHS or RHS of the car (Looking >>forwards) I am UK based and my passenger sdie is LHS. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Craig. You've missed a few posts Craig, I sorted it very quickly thanks to Dave Hinz and Grunff (surprise surprise!)but thanks for the response nonetheless. Thanks also for the links. AL When you say passenger, do you mean LHS or RHS of the car (Looking forwards) I am UK based and my passenger sdie is LHS. Cheers > Hi folks, > got my C900 Aero, yes I think it is,(see my previous post) there is an > intercooler and it goes like a rocket. Very pleased. Yay! > However, some toe-rag broke into it before I bought it, and whilst > ripping out the stereo the heat control got pulled off the linkage at > the heater end. > Whats the easiest way in, I need to get to the heater end of the > control rod to fix/reconect. Do I need to remove the whole dashboard >:-( or is there a simpler way? Piece of cake. There is a long screw (4 of them actually, but you only care about the right-most one) going up through the dash insert. You can see it from underneath the dashboard, somewhere in the vicinity of the ashtray and/or center console. Remove that - it's maybe 6 or 8 inches long, threads up into the underside of the top of the dash. Unscrew and pull that all the way down (out). DISCLAIMER: I've never fixed this on a RHD Saab c900. The left end of the dash insert should then be able to be prised gently away from the rest of the dash. Before you do that, remove the left speaker grille in the dash (two screws and then it lifts out; there are clips in there to release perhaps, or it might just lift out). Go out the car, and look through that grille down, right, and forward-ish so you can see the rod and the place it should go. There is a shat with a d-shaped end that the u-joint from the heater control should go onto -slide fit, no clips, nothing fancy. See where it is, then get back in the car - sit on the passenger (left) seat, left arm into the speaker grille cutout in the dash. Find the end of the control shaft, and the end of the valve shaft, and line them up with your left hand while moving the dash insert as needed with your right. Once that's in, test & verify that it's working as expected, then get that long black vertical screw back in - aligning it at the top is fiddly, I'm afraid. Speaker grille back in, and, you've got heat. One thing to watch out for - on the back of the control which selects which vents you're using is a large cluster of vacuum control hoses. If that comes off the back of the valve assembly, you'll have a huge vacuum leak, lots of noise, and lots of not working air outlets. Don't pull the dash out too far. It's easier the second time, though. If anything's not clear, feel free to ask for more information. Hope this helps, Dave Hinz > Also best place for s-hand C900 parts in West Yorkshire, your opinion? > Need interior bits to fix damaged dash, centre console etc. > > Many thanks > > Al >> Hi folks, >> got my C900 Aero, yes I think it is,(see my previous post) there is an [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > Hope this helps, > Dave Hinz WAHEY! I have a working heater control. Many thanks guys! (By the way, what is the EXTRA button on my dash for?) Al > (By the way, what is the EXTRA button on my dash for?) Pilot eject. Make sure you only use it with the sunroof open. SignatureGrunff >> (By the way, what is the EXTRA button on my dash for?) > > Pilot eject. Make sure you only use it with the sunroof open. Wrong, thats the warp speed button! Signatureth >>> (By the way, what is the EXTRA button on my dash for?) >> >> Pilot eject. Make sure you only use it with the sunroof open. >> > Wrong, thats the warp speed button! Sorry, I forgot he's in the UK. >>>>(By the way, what is the EXTRA button on my dash for?) >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Sorry, I forgot he's in the UK. Well, in UK there is probably no market for a sunroof due to the climate conditions Signatureth >>>>>(By the way, what is the EXTRA button on my dash for?) >>>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Well, in UK there is probably no market for a sunroof due to the climate > conditions So you've never been to Kent then? Gods own county? The Garden of England, although could now be described as the patio of England due to the tonnage of blacktop and concrete installed in the last ten years! >>>>>>(By the way, what is the EXTRA button on my dash for?) >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > England due to the tonnage of blacktop and concrete installed in the last > ten years! No, only London, Bristol, Portsmouth, Manchester, Sheffield and Edinburgh . Always raining! Signatureth >>>>>>>(By the way, what is the EXTRA button on my dash for?) >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > No, only London, Bristol, Portsmouth, Manchester, Sheffield and Edinburgh > . Always raining! Yup, I would concur that in my experience all of these places are generally wet, I live in Wakefield and it's pretty damp here as well! (I hail from Kent, well sort of, long story, won't bore you now!) >> (By the way, what is the EXTRA button on my dash for?) >Pilot eject. Make sure you only use it with the sunroof open. He he - I am using an 'EXTRA' switch to control the front foglights on my 1983 900S: http://lios.apana.org.au/~c900/foglighting.html I haven't documented the wiring side yet but that's coming soon! Unfortunately, the switch for the front foglights means I cant install a seperate switch onto the connector for the rear foglights (the additional red light in each rear light cluster). I found wiring existed for them when I was working out how to install the wiring kit for the front foglights, but there's no switch connected to the socket that's floating in amongst the wiring under the instrument cluster. Craig. SignatureCraig's Saab C900 Page --> http://lios.apana.org.au/~c900 Sydney, NSW Australia Craig's Saab C900 Workshop -- For all Saab C900 Enthusiasts world-wide! http://www.saab900classic.net http://www.saab900.org c900@lios.apana.org.au Come and explore our site, and check out our web-forums, mailing list, etc. >> If anything's not clear, feel free to ask for more information. > > WAHEY! I have a working heater control. Many thanks guys! Good to hear. > (By the way, what is the EXTRA button on my dash for?) Deploys the flaps. >>> If anything's not clear, feel free to ask for more information. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Deploys the flaps. No you're all wrong, tried it on the dual carriageway, it's the carrier arrestor hook. You should see the scar I put in the road surfacing!! >>>>If anything's not clear, feel free to ask for more information. >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > No you're all wrong, tried it on the dual carriageway, it's the carrier > arrestor hook. You should see the scar I put in the road surfacing!! No no, that's the US version. Here in Europe we are more peaceful and have abandoned all military accesories. Signatureth >>>>>If anything's not clear, feel free to ask for more information. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > No no, that's the US version. Here in Europe we are more peaceful and have > abandoned all military accesories. You forget, we British just love sticking our military beak in where it's not wanted, but hey lets not get all alt.politics.war here!! (actually it turns out the switch turns the front fog lights on, ho-hum) > No no, that's the US version. Here in Europe we are more peaceful and > have abandoned all military accesories. Sure, till next time we have to help you out... >>No no, that's the US version. Here in Europe we are more peaceful and >>have abandoned all military accesories. > > > Sure, till next time we have to help you out... That was 60 years ago and now we are a union. Hopefully this will bring peace on the continent, but historically very few unions have ended peacefully. Let's just just wait and see if we need your help again. Signatureth >>>No no, that's the US version. Here in Europe we are more peaceful and >>>have abandoned all military accesories. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > peace on the continent, but historically very few unions have ended > peacefully. Let's just just wait and see if we need your help again. No problem. Something about being in union with, er, two or three of your neighbors, would give me a serious case of unease. Norway stayed out, right? Or, is that just currency? I can see their point, personally, either way... some grudges are just too early to give up on. >>>>No no, that's the US version. Here in Europe we are more peaceful and >>>>have abandoned all military accesories. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I can see their point, personally, either way... some grudges > are just too early to give up on. Sweden and Norway were in a union from 1814 to 1905, before that Norway belonged to Denmark for several hundred years. This was one of the exceptions where a union has ended peacefully although it was very close to war. As the Norweigians have had their own country for quite a short time I guess they still want to be independent, at least until they learn to manufacture cars and until they run out of oil and salmon. They had some electric car design presented a few years ago but it never became a commercial success. Signatureth >> Norway stayed out, right? Or, is that just currency? >> I can see their point, personally, either way... some grudges [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > exceptions where a union has ended peacefully although it was very close > to war. And then the languages started to diverge. I can read Danish and older Norwegian almost interchangably, Swedish and modern Norwegian not as well. > As the Norweigians have had their own country for quite a short > time I guess they still want to be independent, at least until they > learn to manufacture cars and until they run out of oil and salmon. I've go some friends in Ringebu (Oppland) who give me a hard time about collecting "Swedish traktors". I corrected them, mentioned that that would be Volvo, and asked when there was going to be a Norwegian car for me to buy instead. But hey, he collects Buicks, so no accounting for taste. (Hei Brede!) - we shipped a 1966 Buick Wildcat over there a few years ago. I tried to talk him into something at least _attractive_, but... > They > had some electric car design presented a few years ago but it never > became a commercial success. Do you have a name I could google for on that? Dave Hinz > > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Do you have a name I could google for on that? Have a look at http://www.kewet.com/ Signatureth >> I've go some friends in Ringebu (Oppland) who give me a hard >> time about collecting "Swedish traktors". I corrected them, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> > Have a look at http://www.kewet.com/ Oh. My. Goodness. Yeeeeah...um...I'll be sticking with my Saabs. Even the Buick Wildcat isn't that fugly. >>>I've go some friends in Ringebu (Oppland) who give me a hard >>>time about collecting "Swedish traktors". I corrected them, [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Oh. My. Goodness. Yeeeeah...um...I'll be sticking with > my Saabs. Even the Buick Wildcat isn't that fugly. But look at the tremendous performance: Acceleration: 0-50 kph in 8 seconds Maximum speed: 80 kph. Doesn't that make you eagerly wanting a test drive? Signatureth >> >> Oh. My. Goodness. Yeeeeah...um...I'll be sticking with [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Acceleration: 0-50 kph in 8 seconds > Maximum speed: 80 kph. That's...remarkable. > Doesn't that make you eagerly wanting a test drive? Ah, but sadly, it's not marketed in the US. Ah well. >>>> If anything's not clear, feel free to ask for more information. >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > No you're all wrong, tried it on the dual carriageway, it's the carrier > arrestor hook. You should see the scar I put in the road surfacing!! You've got the Aero, then? >>>>> If anything's not clear, feel free to ask for more information. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You've got the Aero, then? It has an intercooler, and it's pretty rapid. Haven't checked out the APC yet, daylight hours are mostly taken up with being at work so I fixed the heater by inspection lamp. To be honest, it looks great, it drives great and it didn't cost me a fortune. These cars are going up in value now, as long as they're maintained, so for the money I paid (?520) I can't lose. I think it was Grunff who told me I'd miss the C900, when I sold my last one and bought a 9000. He was right, this deal was definitely done with the heart not the head! My wife thinks I'm mad, but luckily she loves Saabs too, it was actually her who started this love affair with the marque. Anyway I'm going all misty eyed, thanks again for the heater help. Al C900 T16 Aero 9000 CSE NG900s :-) >>>Hi folks, >>>got my C900 Aero, yes I think it is,(see my previous post) there is an [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > Al You forgot to ask the very common Saab question, assuming your Saab still has most of its pieces. Have you noticed the mud flaps under the middle of the car? These are for the other set of wheels :-) There are other explanations as well :-) >Hi folks, >got my C900 Aero, yes I think it is,(see my previous post) there is an >intercooler and it goes like a rocket. Very pleased. >However, some toe-rag broke into it before I bought it, and whilst >ripping out the stereo the heat control got pulled off the linkage at >the heater end. >Whats the easiest way in, I need to get to the heater end of the >control rod to fix/reconect. Do I need to remove the whole dashboard >:-( or is there a simpler way? Usually when I'm doing things that involve disassembling and re-assembling the instrument/control panel in the dash I remove the left-side speaker/vent unit on top of the dash and then you can reach inside and find the uni-joint on the end of the rod which mates onto the control rod on the heater valve. Depending how much of a mess has been made, you could remove whatever is in the DIN slot at the top and find the other end. Could you send a picture of the dash to give us an idea of the damage? I've pulled the dash apart quite a few times for various things on my 1983 Saab 900S so I'm becoming quite skilled at it now. 8-) The last one was when I fitted some indiglo gauge faces (something that will become a project topic on my personal Saab website soon). >Also best place for s-hand C900 parts in West Yorkshire, your opinion? >Need interior bits to fix damaged dash, centre console etc. If you're in the UK, check the inventory of parts at "http://www.partsforsaabs.com". I bought some items from them a week ago and the package was delivered to me (I'm in Sydney Australia) yesterday! They have an amazing range of parts. You can also try Elkparts at "http://www.elkparts.co.uk" and TwoStroketoTurbo at "http://www.twostroke.co.uk". Regards, Craig. SignatureCraig's Saab C900 Page --> http://lios.apana.org.au/~c900 Sydney, NSW Australia Craig's Saab C900 Workshop -- For all Saab C900 Enthusiasts world-wide! http://www.saab900classic.net http://www.saab900.org c900@lios.apana.org.au Come and explore our site, and check out our web-forums, mailing list, etc. > Also best place for s-hand C900 parts in West Yorkshire, your opinion? > Need interior bits to fix damaged dash, centre console etc. Malbrad in Hudderfield. www.malbrad.co.uk for phone details. Paul Halliday has mentioned someone else in the past arround that way. Signature"Sorry Sir, the meatballs are Orf" The poster formerly known as Skodapilot. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com |
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