Hello all,
I'm looking into buying an old Saab 9000 and wondered if anybody knew
where I might find mpg figures from. I was looking at a 1991 Saab 9000
2Litre Injection and a 1995 9000 CDE 2L. Has anybody got any ideas. Saab's
pages are obviously up to date so there's no info on the old models.
Thanks for your help
Johannes H Andersen - 20 Feb 2005 18:19 GMT
> Hello all,
> I'm looking into buying an old Saab 9000 and wondered if anybody knew
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>
> Thanks for your help
Fuel consumption depends on many factors, such that individual reports
have limited value. However, the lpt engine is more efficient than the
injection (non-turbo) engine. But in general, the ECU makes the engine
quite efficient. I get between 30 and 40 mpg (UK) for my 1993 9000 CSE
2.0 lpt for a mixture of rural and distance driving. Hence, consumption
is good for the size and power of car, you won't find much better unless
you choose a diesel of one of the modern Variable Valve Timing engines.
Pooh Bear - 22 Feb 2005 03:04 GMT
> > Hello all,
> > I'm looking into buying an old Saab 9000 and wondered if anybody knew
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> is good for the size and power of car, you won't find much better unless
> you choose a diesel of one of the modern Variable Valve Timing engines.
Since you mention the alternatives, and I also have a '93 9000 CSE 2.0 lpt ,
I'll comment that my former ancient Vauxhall Cavalier 2.0 CD with Bosch Motronic
ECU ( but *no cat* ) delivered about 10% better fuel economy and startlingly
sharper accelelation.
It weighed a lot less too. That probably plays a large part. The absence of a
cat is most likely up to 5% of the difference as well.
Both cars fall into the nice to drive category. Both also have great seats -
something that is *so important* for relaxed and confident driving. I currently
*love* the Saab's heated seats though. There was actually a switch position on
the Cavalier for heated seats too - but I guess it was a purely Scandinavian
option.
Graham
chris - 23 Feb 2005 23:15 GMT
>> > Hello all,
>> > I'm looking into buying an old Saab 9000 and wondered if anybody
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> cat is most likely up to 5% of the difference as well.
I had an '89 9000i (old shape) and got quite impressive fuel consumption of
35mpg, also acceleration was quite spritely as the early cars were lighter
(and of course cat-less..)
For a big car I found them good drivers too - outrunning and outhandling a
demented VW Sirocco on some twisty-bits...OK maybe thats nothing to brag
about....:-)
Laura K - 20 Feb 2005 19:21 GMT
> I'm looking into buying an old Saab 9000 and wondered if anybody knew
> where I might find mpg figures from. I was looking at a 1991 Saab 9000
> 2Litre Injection and a 1995 9000 CDE 2L. Has anybody got any ideas. Saab's
> pages are obviously up to date so there's no info on the old models.
http://www.edmunds.com
Go to Used Cars, then Saabs, then the year and model. Somewhere there will be
a link to specifications. It's usually in there.
Also try
http://www.saabnet.com
They have a lot of info for the older model years.
I had a 1995 9000 LPT. Got 32mpg (US gallons) all Interstate using premium
and about 25mpg around town running on midgrade.
Pooh Bear - 22 Feb 2005 03:09 GMT
> > I'm looking into buying an old Saab 9000 and wondered if anybody knew
> > where I might find mpg figures from. I was looking at a 1991 Saab 9000
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> I had a 1995 9000 LPT. Got 32mpg (US gallons) all Interstate using premium
> and about 25mpg around town running on midgrade.
For John's benefit.....
US premium = UK 'super unleaded' like Shell Optimax.
US midgrade = UK 'premium' - the normal stuff you buy at the supermarket filling
station.
US and UK octane rating methods differ too - I've already recently been here.
Even more confusing !
Graham
Valjean - 20 Feb 2005 23:17 GMT
To increase what mileage you do get, John, look into whether the car you get
has had its *oxygen sensor* changed lately too...
> Hello all,
> I'm looking into buying an old Saab 9000 and wondered if anybody knew
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>
> Thanks for your help
Pooh Bear - 22 Feb 2005 03:10 GMT
> To increase what mileage you do get, John, look into whether the car you get
> has had its *oxygen sensor* changed lately too...
Is that the 'lambda sensor' so-called ?
Pls tell more.
Graham
Dan RatherNot - 21 Feb 2005 05:38 GMT
For what it's worth my 93 9000CSET with 165k mi. 5-spd gets ~US21mpg city,
32mpg hiway in the NYC vicinity. Haven't checked since I got a new clutch.
The hatchback is way more convenient than the trunk.
> Hello all,
> I'm looking into buying an old Saab 9000 and wondered if anybody knew
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>
> Thanks for your help
Mr Mike Nospam - 21 Feb 2005 16:15 GMT
> Hello all,
> I'm looking into buying an old Saab 9000 and wondered if anybody knew
> where I might find mpg figures from. I was looking at a 1991 Saab 9000
> 2Litre Injection and a 1995 9000 CDE 2L. Has anybody got any ideas. Saab's
> pages are obviously up to date so there's no info on the old models.
The MPG meter on my k-reg 9000 CDE 2L indicates 33 MPG (UK) I do a mix of
motorway and country driving and drive steadily. When I bought this car the
MPG meter was indicating 29MPG, so either the previous owner drove less
steadily than me, or on worse roads.
Mike
Pooh Bear - 22 Feb 2005 03:19 GMT
> > Hello all,
> > I'm looking into buying an old Saab 9000 and wondered if anybody knew
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> MPG meter was indicating 29MPG, so either the previous owner drove less
> steadily than me, or on worse roads.
I think you got it there.
Driving 'steadily' without harsh accelaration or braking ensures the best mpg
you're ever likely to achieve. I do this myself when traffic is medium to heavy
and I know I can't pass. When passing opportunities exist - then I like to
'press on'. :-) The low end torque of the turbo'd Saab 4 cyl engine does
this so nicely in surprisingly high gears !
Your figure closely matches my 2.0 lpt of roughly the same age.
Basically, for a large, quality executive spec car, the mpg is exceptionally
good !
Graham
Dima - 21 Feb 2005 23:53 GMT
Speed matters a lot, too. In my 1996 9000 Aero, 65mph easily get 33mpg(US),
and at 75mph it drops to 30mpg.
-Dima
> Hello all,
> I'm looking into buying an old Saab 9000 and wondered if anybody knew
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>
> Thanks for your help
Pooh Bear - 22 Feb 2005 03:28 GMT
> Speed matters a lot, too. In my 1996 9000 Aero, 65mph easily get 33mpg(US),
> and at 75mph it drops to 30mpg.
I knew I had to replace my old car about a year ago and decided it was time to
at last pursue my long held passion for a 9000.
I found an Aero on Ebay that I fancied and 'lost it' by a mere £22 - at the very
last second. Spoke to the owner and it sounded like a really 'genuine' car with
'no expense spared maintenance' owned by an enthusiast too with several other
Saabs !
I can barely believe how you can manage to keep an Aero to 75 mph ! I go faster
than that sometimes on windy UK country roads !
Oh - btw - there are many Saab sites - but unless you already know about it -
you should take a look at Saab9000.com
Graham
Dima - 22 Feb 2005 18:11 GMT
> I can barely believe how you can manage to keep an Aero to 75 mph ! I go
> faster
> than that sometimes on windy UK country roads !
Good question - it is tough :-). +I use my cruise control to keep myself in
check. Speed limits are ridiculously low here on the west coast of the US,
police traps are common, and fines are high. Even 75 mph can get you a $200
fine easily, even on an interstate freeway. Besides, people have a nasty
habit of never moving over to the right - as a matter of fact, rightmost
lane is frequently the fastest lane - and that is where the 65mph figures
come from :-).
I have taken the car up there in >100mph range for sure, but then I watch my
Valentine One radar detector carefully. It kept me out of trouble for the
last few years, and let me have fun when I want to.
-Dima
Pooh Bear - 22 Feb 2005 02:49 GMT
> Hello all,
> I'm looking into buying an old Saab 9000 and wondered if anybody knew
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>
> Thanks for your help
At the risk of sounding boring again........
Do you mean UK mpg figures ( I guess you do since you're on btinternet and
thus from the UK ) or US mpg figures ?
If you're unfamiliar with the difference - a US gallon is smaller - 0.8 UK
gallons in fact - sorry that's 8/10ths US gallons for US readers ;-)
Wouldn't it be nice if we had a *standard* ?
Graham
Dave Hinz - 22 Feb 2005 15:07 GMT
> At the risk of sounding boring again........
Too late. You're starting to sound like a nationalistic troll at this
point. Do you talk about anything _other than_ this?
> Do you mean UK mpg figures ( I guess you do since you're on btinternet and
> thus from the UK ) or US mpg figures ?
> If you're unfamiliar with the difference - a US gallon is smaller - 0.8 UK
> gallons in fact - sorry that's 8/10ths US gallons for US readers ;-)
> Wouldn't it be nice if we had a *standard* ?
As Gary pointed out, we do. You changed yours. Deal with it.
Pooh Bear - 22 Feb 2005 02:53 GMT
> Hello all,
> I'm looking into buying an old Saab 9000 and wondered if anybody knew
> where I might find mpg figures from. I was looking at a 1991 Saab 9000
> 2Litre Injection and a 1995 9000 CDE 2L. Has anybody got any ideas. Saab's
> pages are obviously up to date so there's no info on the old models.
Depends *awfully* on your driving.
I get around 32 UK mpg from my '93 9000 2.0 cse lpt. That's minimal short
journeys ( classic source of poor mpg ) and mainly 'A road' driving at modest
but occasionally when possible 'enthusiastic' speeds..
Put your foot down on the motorway seriously and the gauge drops alarmlingly.
Graham