Hi everyone,
Normally I post about C900's, as you know. This is quite a departure from my
regular subject-matter. 8-)
I'm very concerned that GM are trying to re-engineer Saab into become 'just
another American car company' by forcing Saab into producing types of
vehicles which are completely out of the 'arena' in which Saab has built
it's business and would have no problem continuing to develop should the
company have not been violated and interfered with by a meddling US-based
multi-national organisation such as GM.
SUV's are not, and can never, be regarded truly as prestige vehicles no
matter how much 'luxury' gets built into them without extremely radical
re-thinking of the concept. They're resource-chewing machines that will
consume precious fossil fuels and require masses of fossil-fuel-derived
components at much higher rates that any convential type of vehicle. Not to
mention how much more dangerous they are on the road in terms of risk to
other people and road users.
SUV's (which we lump all together as '4wd' or '4x4' vehicles in Australia,
even though they aren't full-time 4-wheel drive vehicles) are ugly, heavy,
dangerous vehicles and most of the time people who buy and drive them do not
have the skills or training to handle them properly in all possible driving
conditions. How many people in the US especially still think wearing of
seatbelts is just something that 'city folk' do? 8-)
Is GM willing to accept that they are going to move Saab's brand into
classes of vehicles which account for an exponentially-growing rate of
accidents and fatalities (both to people in the vehicles and people outside)
and this will end up sullying Saab's reputation as a maker of safe,
reliable, well-designed and constructed vehicles? My guess is that GM don't
care, especially since they're going along the same path with Subaru, albeit
in different ways.
I think it's great to see concepts for new 'Saab' vehicles proposed - every
manufacturer has to conceptualise and study new product ideas and Saab has
always been party to that just like any other car maker, but Saab's
established reputation stands to be ruined as GM ignores the unique
identities of each brand it acquires and tries to re-hash the same ideas it
uses for it's general domestic US vehicle products and mask over the
qualities which seperate the acquired brands from GM's core vehicles.
How long will it be before 'Saab' really is just a badge stuck on an
otherwise stock GM-built vehicle made for the US domestic market and there
is nothing in the design or 'content' of the vehicle which makes it
different? Do we already have that now?
GM's got great potential but at the end of the day the company only wants
what every other multinational company wants - increasing profit returns for
shareholders at the expense of quality service and products to it's
customers. To GM, customers are not important unless they are corporate
clients like the US military, etc. Private buyers are a thorn in the side of
global businesses and GM's willingness to siphon it's market purely to
benefit shareholders while giving non-corporate customers nothing short of
sub-standard product designed to maximise market share at the expense of
quality, safety and long-term conservation of our planet's natural resources
does absolutely nothing to improve the company's credibility.
That's my view and I know a lot of you will be alarmed by my comments - but
I'm open-minded enough to know that and accept what you might have to say be
it in support of my comments or speaking out in criticism of them.
Regards,
Craig.

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Johannes H Andersen - 06 Mar 2005 12:20 GMT
> Hi everyone,
>
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> mention how much more dangerous they are on the road in terms of risk to
> other people and road users.
There is definitely a trend towards prestige 4x4. You see shining new
examples speeding around London motorways every day, not a peck of mud
to be seen. Particularly BMW-X5 (0-60 in 6 sec with a massive engine),
Porsche Cayenne, Volvo XC90, VW Toureg with massive V10 diesel. The
Nissan Murano is just advertised on the telly. Everybody is in on the
act, it seems. It has become the new middle class status symbol. Not
surprising that GM/Saab wants a piece of the action. There cars are of
course hugely wasteful for what their main use as boulevard cruisers.
WitchDr - 06 Mar 2005 13:24 GMT
> There is definitely a trend towards prestige 4x4. You see shining new
> examples speeding around London motorways every day, not a peck of mud
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> surprising that GM/Saab wants a piece of the action. There cars are of
> course hugely wasteful for what their main use as boulevard cruisers.
All these are are minivans in disguise. And yes, a lot of these have
optional high output engines but the overwhelming majority come with the
stock mediocre engine. What is surprising is how much room they don't have.
A female friend of mine got an FX45 and it doesn't have much room in it. She
was amazed my 93 Viggen had so much room. While the FX45 has more, it
doesn't have that much more and the passenger area feels cramped. With that
being said, I have driven an Envoy for about 3 weeks and was impressed. It's
got a ton of room, engine is ok, doesn't feel like a truck, and got
reasonable milage (16-20mpg). If Saab is using this to base the 9-7x on, I
think they've got a pretty good model. It's not a crossover like the
F/X5/90/Toureg so it's got room and enough power to tow something which
appeals to a lot of people. Apparently one of the reasons SUV's are popular
is because people like to be able to tow things. Without the optional
engines, I don't see the crossovers towing much.
Saab/GM really seems to be trying to nail it with the 9-7x. When the vice
chairman of GM says things like ""It's when you get to doing an iconic brand
like Saab that you'd better make sure it looks and feels radically
different," Mr. Lutz added. "It's got to be slick, silky, quiet, high
performance and have phenomenally good ride and
handling.", that bodes well for Saab. I didn't think many Escalade's and
Navigators would sell but they can't keep them in stock. Hopefully GM will
have the same success with the 9-7x.