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Car Forum / Saab Cars / April 2005

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Fried Starter on 1989 Saab 900?

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Wemic - 15 Mar 2005 04:45 GMT
Hi all,

I think I already know the answer to this but I want to confirm.  I
live in the northeastern US and during that really bad cold snap we had
earlier this winter the ignition was frozen such that it wouldn't turn.
 After blasting it with a hair dryer for about a half hour, the key
turned but slowly and the car started.  After starting, I heard this
continuous scraping sound which would go away after about 10-15
minutes.  This happened on a number of subsequent days doing the hair
dryer trick and hearing that sound.  The car became harder and harder
to start.  Finally, it no longer starts and I just hear that scraping
sound when I turn the key in the ignition.  Could it be that my
ignition didn't go all the way back from the start position to the on
position such that my starter was continually cranking and eventually
gave out?  Also at this time my cig lighter and the rear window
defogger stopped working although the fuse is just fine.

P.S. Where the heck is the starter on this thing?  Can't seem to find
it so I can take it off to be replaced if need be.  Really need to get
the repair manual.
PAPAGENE4JACK - 26 Mar 2005 00:08 GMT
Noticed the same problem on my 92 conv this year key was hard to turn but
ok after warming up.  The scraping problem sounds like the starter is
going bad.  starter is easy to take out and replace located under gas
linkage on drivers side of car.  two bolts and some wires and its out
maybe 35 minutes tops.  Rebuit bosh starter on line or autozone is about
144.00                  good luck papa
wemic - 04 Apr 2005 00:54 GMT
I had my wife pick up a used one (Bosch SR32x) from the salvage yard
while I was out of town.  Installed today but no dice.  Not a sound
from the starter.  Are the electrical connections the same as on the
O.E.?  Can't seem to find a trouble guide on the net anywhere.  Of
course, it's probably likely that I got a bum starter.  What do you
think?  

Thanks.
yaofeng - 04 Apr 2005 01:59 GMT
You can test the starter on the bench hooking it up to the battery.
wemic - 04 Apr 2005 03:48 GMT
Which connections will I need?  Jumper cables directly to the posts on
the starter?
yaofeng - 04 Apr 2005 04:36 GMT
The thick cable is positive.  The starter sucks up a lot of current.
wemic - 04 Apr 2005 14:03 GMT
Got it....thanks.  It's working.  I think my connection is screwy.  I
noticed a second flat terminal which is probably the one that goes to
the ignition switch rather than the other.  The O.E. starter had only
one flat terminal from what I remember.  I'll mess with it tomorrow.
James Sweet - 04 Apr 2005 17:24 GMT
> Got it....thanks.  It's working.  I think my connection is screwy.  I
> noticed a second flat terminal which is probably the one that goes to
> the ignition switch rather than the other.  The O.E. starter had only
> one flat terminal from what I remember.  I'll mess with it tomorrow.

I ran into that same thing on a Volvo, some starters have one, some have
two, only one of the connections works.
wemic - 07 Apr 2005 02:33 GMT
That did the trick.  It started right up.  Thanks all for the help.  :-)
yaofeng - 04 Apr 2005 19:33 GMT
I no longer own a c900.  But if I remember from the experience removing
the starter on my 89 900S, it has two wires.  BTW, the only one time I
fried the starter was because I drove the car with the starter biting
the flywheel, turning with it for five miles taking my son to school
one spring morning.  Neglect in cleaning the ignition on the floor on a
C900 can do that to you.
James Sweet - 04 Apr 2005 17:24 GMT
> I had my wife pick up a used one (Bosch SR32x) from the salvage yard
> while I was out of town.  Installed today but no dice.  Not a sound
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>
> Thanks.

Do you have voltage at the starter? Check both the big wire as well as the
small one that comes from the ignition. If the car is an automatic the
problem may be the start interlock switch in the shifter, I'm not sure how
Saab does it.
 
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