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Car Forum / Saab Cars / April 2005

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Pooh Bear - 09 Apr 2005 05:26 GMT
Australia

Swedish Prestige
Cnr. Huntingdale Rd &Croft St.
Huntingdale
Vic.
39166
AUSTRALIA
Tel: 61 3 9543 6869
Fax: 61 3 9543 8080
www.swedishprestige.com.au
Email:swedishprestige@bigpond.com
Contact: Dean Randle

Canada

Contact USA Agent

Denmark

Kolstrup Tuning
Skelmosevej 6
DK-2500 Valby
DENMARK
Tel: 0031 16 6500
Fax: 0031 16 6505

France

Nordic Engineering
139 Avenue de la Republique
59110 La Medeleine
FRANCE
Tel/Fax: 0033 320 06 2253

Germany

Gasparatos Automobile
Brandestocken 21
22540 Hamburg
GERMANY
Tel: 0049 40 800 8281
Fax: 0049 40 800 8751

Holland

J&D van den Bosch
Wilgenlaan 47A
3645 EM Vinkeveen
The Netherlands

Tel: 0297-212222
Fax: 0297-212514

Email: info@jendvandenbosch.nl
Web: www.jendvandenbosch.nl

Italy

Sivar Car
42100 Reggio Emilia
Via Fratelli Cervi 36
ITALY
Tel: 0039 522 303 960
Fax: 0039 522 792 615

Norway

Leif Gjestrum Larson A/S
Lokka 2
3255 Larvick
NORWAY
Tel: 0047 33 11 6845
Fax: 0047 33 11 6164
Web: www.leif-gjestrum.no
Email: lgjlarsen@online.no

Norhspeed A.S
Nygaardsgt 91
N-5008 Bergen
NORWAY
Tel: 0047 55 96 0518
Fax: 0047 55 96 0519
Web: www.norhspeed.no
Email: norspeed@online.no

Russia

GEMA Service Centre
Mozhayskoe shosse, 165
Moscow
RUSSIA

Tel: (095) 783-08-54 / 55 / 56
Fax: (095) 783-08-90
Web.: www.gema.ru
E-mail: abbott@gema.ru

Contact persons:
Denis Voronov (additional tel.451)
Yuri Sergeenko (additional tel.022)

SPEEDPARTS Russia
Moscow
RUSSIA

Tel: (095) 760-9380
Web.: www.speedparts.ru
E-mail: info@speedparts.ru

Sweden

SPEEDPARTS SWEDEN AB
Schillers väg 4
451 55 Uddevalla
Tel. 0522-665220
Fax. 0522-665221
Web: www.speedparts.se

Switzerland

Tironi Tuning
A-Quiquerez 70
2800 Delemont
SWITZERLAND
Tel: 0041 32 422 4516
Fax: 0041 32 422 3864

Thailand

Abbott Racing Thailand
106/20-21 Viphavadee Soi 2
Dindang Bangkok 10320
Thailand
Tel: 662 692 1740 (-1)
Fax: 662 692 1742
Contact person : Mr. Sranpong Siridhasanakul
Mobile : 661 845 2233
Email : sranaero@hotmail.com
Web : http://www.abbottthailand.com/

United States of America

Scanwest Autosport
9520 Greenwood Avenue North
Seattle
WA 98105
USA
Tel: 001 206 789 2819
Fax: 001 206 781 5281
Web: www.scanwestauto.com
Email: info@scanwestauto.com
Pooh Bear - 09 Apr 2005 05:30 GMT
USA - North America

http://www.genuinesaab.com/

Graham
Henrik B. - 09 Apr 2005 13:44 GMT
*SPAM* removed.

I wouldn't spend MY money on a company that rips off their tuning-software
from others!

Cheers!
Pooh Bear - 09 Apr 2005 16:12 GMT
> *SPAM* removed.
>
> I wouldn't spend MY money on a company that rips off their tuning-software
> from others!

They do ? Pls tell.

Graham
Henrik B. - 11 Apr 2005 09:43 GMT
>> I wouldn't spend MY money on a company that rips off their
>> tuning-software
>> from others!
>
> They do ? Pls tell.

http://www.maptun.com/pirates.php?PHPSESSID=403729a5b7e22cfc1564b64b6e1986c9

Cheers!
Pooh Bear - 11 Apr 2005 23:53 GMT
> >> I wouldn't spend MY money on a company that rips off their
> >> tuning-software
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Cheers!

I'm very disappointed to hear that. I can sympathise especially, as I have had
electronic designs of mine / my client's ( hardware and software ) blatantly
ripped off by an Indian company that formerly traded with us and put back onto
the European market under another brand name.

Graham
Craig's Saab C9000 Site - 12 Apr 2005 05:45 GMT
>> >> I wouldn't spend MY money on a company that rips off their
>> >> tuning-software
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
>> Cheers!

>I'm very disappointed to hear that. I can sympathise especially, as I have had
>electronic designs of mine / my client's ( hardware and software ) blatantly
>ripped off by an Indian company that formerly traded with us and put back onto
>the European market under another brand name.

Hmm it wasn't an Indian company specialising in running call-centres that
are used by Australian telco's and perhaps big telco's in other countries as
well? 8-) (sorry for the slight off-topic diversion)

Craig.
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Pooh Bear - 12 Apr 2005 09:43 GMT
> >> >> I wouldn't spend MY money on a company that rips off their
> >> >> tuning-software
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> are used by Australian telco's and perhaps big telco's in other countries as
> well? 8-) (sorry for the slight off-topic diversion)

Quite likely.

Because educated 'middle class' Indians speak pretty good english, a large industry
has sprung up in India 'outsourcing' call centre facilities for many native english
speaking countries. It's considered to be a good employment prospect there.

When they call themselves Jim or Annie - you know you're talking to one of the
nastier ones. They 'make up' what they think are friendly sounding names to the
Western - hmmm Oz even - ear. It's pretty obvious when it's fake though. I'd be
happier if they said ' hello this is Pradeep / Reshma talking to you ' actually.

I've had varied experiences.

The worst was when American Express offloaded their UK call centre - the guy on the
end of the phone tried to tell me I was 'mistaken' when he simply didn't understand
my question. Luckily, Amex must have twigged the problem and did a telephone survey
where I gave them hell for outsourcing. They use real Brits again now !

On another occasion I got cold-called by an Indian sounding chap calling himself
some english sounding name. It was obviously a con - so I confronted him - and he
giggled in an embarassed fashionand and hung up the line.

Most recently I spoke to an Indian gent in a call centre who was actually helpful,
polite, knowledgable and didn't have the deep accent ! Maybe he wasn't in India
after all ? LOL !

Graham
Craig's Saab C9000 Site - 13 Apr 2005 00:51 GMT
>Most recently I spoke to an Indian gent in a call centre who was actually helpful,
>polite, knowledgable and didn't have the deep accent ! Maybe he wasn't in India
>after all ? LOL !

Going very off-topic now (but it's worth it for a little humour), take a
listen to this MP3 file:

http://www.bigswamp.net/telstracallcentre.mp3

If that URL doesn't work, go direct using this one:

http://www.hereticweb.org/smelstra/telstracallcentre.mp3

There is meant to be another MP3 file doing the rounds that takes the mickey
out of our much-maligned aussie telco but I haven't found it yet.

Craig.
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Pooh Bear - 13 Apr 2005 09:28 GMT
> >Most recently I spoke to an Indian gent in a call centre who was actually helpful,
> >polite, knowledgable and didn't have the deep accent ! Maybe he wasn't in India
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> There is meant to be another MP3 file doing the rounds that takes the mickey
> out of our much-maligned aussie telco but I haven't found it yet.

That's a cracker Craig ! Scarily accurate too. The Indians *really do* believe they
know better, it's part of the culture.

Graham    ( one time regular visitor to Bombay )
Dexter J - 10 Apr 2005 01:35 GMT
Salutations:

> Canada
>
> Contact USA Agent

That burns my bacon.

I'm sure its a fine franchise and all - but I feel comfortable there are  
just as many SAAB's here in Canada as there are in Thailand (which has  
it's own franchise). Probably more - given the basic practicality of the  
automobile come January/February north of the 59th.

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James Sweet - 10 Apr 2005 06:46 GMT
> Salutations:
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> it's own franchise). Probably more - given the basic practicality of the
> automobile come January/February north of the 59th.

Yeah but Canada is attached to the US, other locations around the world it
may not be nearly so easy to get something from right across the border.
Richard Sutherland-Smith - 10 Apr 2005 10:46 GMT
> > Salutations:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Yeah but Canada is attached to the US, other locations around the world it
> may not be nearly so easy to get something from right across the border.

Come on, you bought it from the US!! My son had his eye on that one!!!
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Dexter J - 11 Apr 2005 00:15 GMT
Salutations:

>> Salutations:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> it
> may not be nearly so easy to get something from right across the border.

You would think that according to the PR and any map you happen to pull  
out - but sadly - it is just not the case. Putting aside that 1/3 the way  
across Canada is about the same distance as Paris to Moscow - there is  
still a fully staffed border and seperate currency in place here.

It will cost me at least $45 ($56 after exchange and fees for same) for  
two week shipping on a used pair of struts from Tulsa - before the customs  
brokerage of $50 and the GST (VAT) of 15% on it *all* by the time it gets  
here.

Nope - Canada is no more attached to the United States than Cuba, at least  
as far as this consumer can figure. I know it really doesn't make much  
sense and as I said, fine United States franchise though I'm sure it is.

But every time I see someone directing Canadian biz to a US shop - I have  
to treat it as a pure luxury and, I gotta say, that sux on a lot of levels  
now that I have the Aero of my dreams.

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Dave Hinz - 11 Apr 2005 13:24 GMT
> Salutations:
>
>> Canada
>> Contact USA Agent
> That burns my bacon.

Backbacon, I assume?

> I'm sure its a fine franchise and all - but I feel comfortable there are  
> just as many SAAB's here in Canada as there are in Thailand (which has  
> it's own franchise). Probably more - given the basic practicality of the  
> automobile come January/February north of the 59th.

Um, might have to do with finding available people to do it.  If
you want a franchise, call 'em & see what they say?

 
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