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Johannes - 09 Apr 2005 23:56 GMT

How often should I change oil on my 1993 9000 CSE 2.0 LPT?
Words like "frequently" and "infrequently" doesn't tell very much.

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James Sweet - 10 Apr 2005 00:12 GMT

> How often should I change oil on my 1993 9000 CSE 2.0 LPT?
> Words like "frequently" and "infrequently" doesn't tell very much.

How do you drive it? Mostly highway? Town? Mixed? Light or heavy foot?

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dxyzc@nospam.com - 10 Apr 2005 01:35 GMT

>>How often should I change oil on my 1993 9000 CSE 2.0 LPT?
>>Words like "frequently" and "infrequently" doesn't tell very much.
>
> How do you drive it? Mostly highway? Town? Mixed? Light or heavy foot?

Do you use synthetic and a high quality filter? Then I read you can go
10K miles.

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ma_twain - 11 Apr 2005 04:15 GMT

>>> How often should I change oil on my 1993 9000 CSE 2.0 LPT?
>>> Words like "frequently" and "infrequently" doesn't tell very much.
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> Do you use synthetic and a high quality filter? Then I read you can go
> 10K miles.

I usually go about 5 to 6K miles on my turbos. I also try to keep the
short runs about town to the beater cars. The turbos are generally
driven on longer trips (60+ miles) with only one or two stops - heavy
foot though :-). I also use synthetics and Saab/Volvo oil filters. My
Volvo turbo is still going strong and it is a 1982. I suppose it also
depends on how long you want to keep your 9000 running. You can do alot
of synthetic oil changes for the price of a turbo charger.

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Craig's Saab C900 Site - 11 Apr 2005 08:57 GMT

>I usually go about 5 to 6K miles on my turbos. I also try to keep the
>short runs about town to the beater cars. The turbos are generally
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>depends on how long you want to keep your 9000 running. You can do alot
>of synthetic oil changes for the price of a turbo charger.

Very true. Changing fluids is cheap insurance for your car.

Something nobody ever talks about though is what happens to waste oil? I
don't think there is any 'standard' way to dispose of it, and most places
don't seem to have any organised facility that handles waste oil products.

Dumping it into the wastewater system is very harmful. Dumping in landfill
(inside a closed container) via the regular trash/garbage/rubbish collection
run by the local council or other authority is probably the closest thing
possible to being a 'land-friendly' disposal option. Is there any sort of
'Saab-endorsed' way of dealing with waste oil products? 8-)

Regards,

Craig.

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Johannes - 11 Apr 2005 10:54 GMT

> Something nobody ever talks about though is what happens to waste oil? I
> don't think there is any 'standard' way to dispose of it, and most places
> don't seem to have any organised facility that handles waste oil products.

Yes, never dump oil into the drains. You will be fined (UK) if it can be
traced back to your drains. It is also very anti social behaviour.

> Dumping it into the wastewater system is very harmful. Dumping in landfill
> (inside a closed container) via the regular trash/garbage/rubbish collection
> run by the local council or other authority is probably the closest thing
> possible to being a 'land-friendly' disposal option.

It's still definitely a no no. Waste oil can seep into the ground water and
pollute your drinking water.

> Is there any sort of
> 'Saab-endorsed' way of dealing with waste oil products? 8-)

Every council in the UK has collection centres for used engine oil. The oil
is either burned as fuel or recycled.

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Malt_Hound - 11 Apr 2005 15:10 GMT

>>I usually go about 5 to 6K miles on my turbos. I also try to keep the
>>short runs about town to the beater cars. The turbos are generally
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>
> Craig.

We have regular waste oil collection days in town where it is used to
fuel a heating plant.

-Fred W

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ma_twain - 11 Apr 2005 22:48 GMT

>>I usually go about 5 to 6K miles on my turbos. I also try to keep the
>>short runs about town to the beater cars. The turbos are generally
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Craig.

In the Washington D.C. area of the US, the auto parts stores collect
used motor oil and batteries! They also sell them, so there is some
incentive for the stores to collect and recycle(hopefully) these items.

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Stephen B. - 12 Apr 2005 00:52 GMT

> In the Washington D.C. area of the US, the auto parts stores collect
> used motor oil and batteries! They also sell them, so there is some
> incentive for the stores to collect and recycle(hopefully) these items.

Actually I think it is a federal law (if not it is a New York State law)
requiring anyone who sells oil or car batteries to accept the same at no
cost. Used oil is then either sent for recycling or fuel blending and
burning. As for the car batteries, the lead in the battery actually makes it
worth something as scrap.

Stephen B.
NYC

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John B - 12 Apr 2005 14:29 GMT

Sure, but what about used coolant? I'm planning to drain/flush mine this
summer, and I'm not sure what I'm going to do with all the old green stuff.

John

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Dave Hinz - 12 Apr 2005 16:19 GMT

>> In the Washington D.C. area of the US, the auto parts stores collect
>> used motor oil and batteries! They also sell them, so there is some
>> incentive for the stores to collect and recycle(hopefully) these items.
>
> Sure, but what about used coolant? I'm planning to drain/flush mine this
> summer, and I'm not sure what I'm going to do with all the old green stuff.

Whatever you do, don't mix it with train oil. You can make an entire
tank of recyclable oil unusable if you do.

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Pooh Bear - 12 Apr 2005 00:39 GMT

> >I usually go about 5 to 6K miles on my turbos. I also try to keep the
> >short runs about town to the beater cars. The turbos are generally
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> possible to being a 'land-friendly' disposal option. Is there any sort of
> 'Saab-endorsed' way of dealing with waste oil products? 8-)

In Sweden I'm sure they'll recycle. Oil collection / recycling is also used here in
the UK. There are penalties for disposal in environmentally unfriendly ways.

Graham

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Craig's Saab C9000 Site - 12 Apr 2005 05:49 GMT

>> Dumping it into the wastewater system is very harmful. Dumping in landfill
>> (inside a closed container) via the regular trash/garbage/rubbish collection
>> run by the local council or other authority is probably the closest thing
>> possible to being a 'land-friendly' disposal option. Is there any sort of
>> 'Saab-endorsed' way of dealing with waste oil products? 8-)

>In Sweden I'm sure they'll recycle. Oil collection / recycling is also used here in
>the UK. There are penalties for disposal in environmentally unfriendly ways.

I know that there are oil recycling facilities here, but it's not something
that gets publicised widely. After all, the trucks that rumble around
carting waste oil have to be picking it up from somewhere.

I think all Australian state and territory governments have their own
version of an EPA (Environmental Protection Authority as it's called here in
NSW) which enforces legislation for dumping waste products, including oils.
Might see if the local council landfill site accepts waste oils - would be a
sensible place to do it.

Regards,

Craig.

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Pooh Bear - 12 Apr 2005 09:49 GMT

> >> Dumping it into the wastewater system is very harmful. Dumping in landfill
> >> (inside a closed container) via the regular trash/garbage/rubbish collection
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> Might see if the local council landfill site accepts waste oils - would be a
> sensible place to do it.

Erk ! Landfill ? That means the oil will eventually reach the water table unless the
site is situated in a very deep bed of impermeable clay !

Best thing to do is to recycle it.

Graham

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Grunff - 13 Apr 2005 00:05 GMT

> Erk ! Landfill ? That means the oil will eventually reach the water table unless the
> site is situated in a very deep bed of impermeable clay !

Oil is the least of your worries - there are far nastier things that can
leach out of landfill. All landfill sites (certainly in the UK) *have*
to be dug into impermeable ground.

> Best thing to do is to recycle it.

Not really - recycling waste oil isn't an option. The energy cost of
cleaning it up would be huge. The only sensible thing to do with it is a
controlled high temperature incineration.

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James Sweet - 12 Apr 2005 02:52 GMT

> >I usually go about 5 to 6K miles on my turbos. I also try to keep the
> >short runs about town to the beater cars. The turbos are generally
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> don't think there is any 'standard' way to dispose of it, and most places
> don't seem to have any organised facility that handles waste oil products.

Every autoparts store I've been to in the last 15 years or so accepts used
oil for free, that's where I always go with mine. They just have a big bin
you pour it into for recycling.

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Craig's Saab C9000 Site - 12 Apr 2005 05:49 GMT

>Every autoparts store I've been to in the last 15 years or so accepts used
>oil for free, that's where I always go with mine. They just have a big bin
>you pour it into for recycling.

Didn't even think of that! Doh! 8-) Next time I visit the local autoparts
store I'll ask.

Craig.

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Pooh Bear - 12 Apr 2005 09:47 GMT

> >Every autoparts store I've been to in the last 15 years or so accepts used
> >oil for free, that's where I always go with mine. They just have a big bin
> >you pour it into for recycling.
>
> Didn't even think of that! Doh! 8-) Next time I visit the local autoparts
> store I'll ask.

Here in the UK, I haven't seen oil collection at auto parts stores ( possibly
considered to be hazardous in case of an oil spill ? ) but they certainly take
your old batteries. The council depots take both though.

Graham

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Pooh Bear - 12 Apr 2005 00:36 GMT

> How often should I change oil on my 1993 9000 CSE 2.0 LPT?
> Words like "frequently" and "infrequently" doesn't tell very much.

That'll depend greatly on your choice of oil. And indeed your driving
pattern. Same car / year here btw !

I would be perfectly happy with 10-12k miles oil change intervals using
full synthetic oil. I don't do many short journeys and rarely get the
opportunity to drive really hard. I do a couple of 22-23 mile journeys
most weekdays.

Another important consideration is engine flushing when changing oil (
is this a UK thing ? ). Can be done using an additive, or a drain and
short run with flushing oil ( the traditional way ). Helps get rid of
any accumulated sh.t.

OTOH - if your car's in for maintenance anyway and the oil change
interval is coming up - why not get it done there and then ? Saves
another trip.

As others have said - it's cheap engine insurance. Although my 9k has
done 165k miles it never needs an intermediate oil top-up ( well not so
far anyway ) - so that bodes well in the engine wear department.

Graham

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