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Laura K - 13 Apr 2005 18:28 GMT

This place has a couple of options.
http://www.stateofnine.com/page/stateofnine/CTGY/I
I've never ordered from them, so can't recommend them, but that cupholder
does look interesting. I like to keep a bottle of water handy, especially in
the summer.

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ma_twain - 14 Apr 2005 14:01 GMT

> This place has a couple of options.
> http://www.stateofnine.com/page/stateofnine/CTGY/I
> I've never ordered from them, so can't recommend them, but that cupholder
> does look interesting. I like to keep a bottle of water handy, especially in
> the summer.

Just my personal preference, but I like to keep two hands on the
steering wheel while driving except when shifting gears. So, I have no
need for a cup holder in my Saabs. When I drive, I drive - when I drink
I drink :-) and the two don't mix, even it it is just water. Also - I
don't use my cell phone. I let voice mail take the calls.

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Gemini Jackson - 14 Apr 2005 22:25 GMT

>> This place has a couple of options.
>> http://www.stateofnine.com/page/stateofnine/CTGY/I
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>I drink :-) and the two don't mix, even it it is just water. Also - I
>don't use my cell phone. I let voice mail take the calls.

I'm the opposite. I live out of my Saab. Heavy commuting and lots of
daily long distance driving requires that I have a meal while driving
sometimes. I draw the line at reading the paper though.
~GJ~

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Walt Kienzle - 15 Apr 2005 01:31 GMT

I use a cupholder to enable me to keep both hands on the wheel as I bring a
drink back to work safely in a cupholder. No drinking is done while
driving. That is only done before or after the auto trip. How would I do
that if I didn't have a cupholder? Buying overpriced drinks I don't care
for from the company vending machine is not a good alternative. I also
carry my mobile phone with me in the car. I don't use that while driving
either. Some people install a special holder in their cars for their
phones.

...just another opinion and point of view.

Walt Kienzle
1991 9000T

>> This place has a couple of options.
>> http://www.stateofnine.com/page/stateofnine/CTGY/I
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> and the two don't mix, even it it is just water. Also - I don't use my
> cell phone. I let voice mail take the calls.

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Christian M. Mericle - 15 Apr 2005 17:15 GMT

>I use a cupholder to enable me to keep both hands on the wheel as I bring a
>drink back to work safely in a cupholder. No drinking is done while
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>
>...just another opinion and point of view.

Exactly why I need a cup holder. Thanks!

-- Christian

>>> This place has a couple of options.
>>> http://www.stateofnine.com/page/stateofnine/CTGY/I
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>> and the two don't mix, even it it is just water. Also - I don't use my
>> cell phone. I let voice mail take the calls.

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ma_twain - 17 Apr 2005 03:18 GMT

Just a general warning to those keeping cell phones and other objects in
cup holders, as well as sitting on the seat. If you have the bad luck
of being in an accident, loose objects (cell phone in cupholder)have
killed the otherwise safely restrainted (by seatbelt/airbag) occupants.
Keep loose objects to a minimum. Put the brief cases and laptops in
the trunk. Keep the cell phone in the belt clip or brief case. However,
a paper cup of coffee flying around the inside of a car in an accident
would probably cause only minimal bodily harm. A full metal coffee
travel tumbler would really hurt.

> I use a cupholder to enable me to keep both hands on the wheel as I bring a
> drink back to work safely in a cupholder. No drinking is done while
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>>and the two don't mix, even it it is just water. Also - I don't use my
>>cell phone. I let voice mail take the calls.

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Gemini Jackson - 17 Apr 2005 13:15 GMT

>Just a general warning to those keeping cell phones and other objects in
>cup holders, as well as sitting on the seat. If you have the bad luck
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>would probably cause only minimal bodily harm. A full metal coffee
>travel tumbler would really hurt.

Remember what Bilbo used to say: "It's a dangerous business, Frodo,
going out your door.
~GJ~

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James Sweet - 17 Apr 2005 19:16 GMT

> >>Just my personal preference, but I like to keep two hands on the steering
> >>wheel while driving except when shifting gears. So, I have no need for a
> >>cup holder in my Saabs. When I drive, I drive - when I drink I drink
:-)
> >>and the two don't mix, even it it is just water. Also - I don't use my
> >>cell phone. I let voice mail take the calls.

It's nice to have a cool drink when it's a hot day, and having a cupholder
certainly beats trying to hold it between your legs while driving from a
safety standpoint. Trying to juggle a drink while changing lanes in rush
hour traffic or going around curvey rural roads would be dumb, but cruising
wide open on the freeway or sitting at a standstill in a traffic jam it's
not much of a distraction.

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Walt Kienzle - 17 Apr 2005 19:23 GMT

Very true. A friend of mine from California and I were talking about the
different names we have in the US for a motorway. Were I am, they are
called expressways or tollways. In California, they are called freeways
because, as my friend explained, that is the only place where you can park
free of charge (during rush hours ;-).

>> >>Just my personal preference, but I like to keep two hands on the
> steering
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> wide open on the freeway or sitting at a standstill in a traffic jam it's
> not much of a distraction.

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Laura K - 17 Apr 2005 21:05 GMT

>> >>Just my personal preference, but I like to keep two hands on the
> steering
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>> >>and the two don't mix, even it it is just water. Also - I don't use my
>> >>cell phone. I let voice mail take the calls.

I don't eat or drink when I'm driving in city traffic or on twisty roads, but
I do need a place to stick a drink if I bring home takeout.
If I'm driving long distances on an interstate -- 800 miles cruising at 70+
and only stopping for gas -- I always have a bottle of water with me and
something to snack on to break the monotony.
Once you get out of the cities, there's not much traffic and few
exits/entrances. I've been on Interstates in the Midwest that are so flat and
straight you can see a squirrel crossing the road 20 miles ahead.
I think US drivers are a lot more fastfood oriented and accustomed to going
long distances on Interstates than the Swedish are.

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Christian M. Mericle - 19 Apr 2005 17:19 GMT

I think keeping a briefcase in the back of my 900 would be pretty
dangerous in a wreck as it might fly forward into the back of head. I
would opt to put it in the front passenger seat (if I am alone) and
even seatbelt it in for added safety.

-- Christian

>Just a general warning to those keeping cell phones and other objects in
>cup holders, as well as sitting on the seat. If you have the bad luck
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>>>and the two don't mix, even it it is just water. Also - I don't use my
>>>cell phone. I let voice mail take the calls.

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Stephen B. - 20 Apr 2005 02:35 GMT

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> > However,
> >a paper cup of coffee flying around the inside of a car in an accident
> >would probably cause only minimal bodily harm. A full metal coffee
> >travel tumbler would really hurt.

Just watch out for the air bag when you have a tray with four cups of coffee
on your lap. I know a guy that had the cups disintegrate when his wife
crashed and the airbags deployed. Guess where the coffee ended up.

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Johannes - 20 Apr 2005 12:35 GMT

> <snip>
> > > However,
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> on your lap. I know a guy that had the cups disintegrate when his wife
> crashed and the airbags deployed. Guess where the coffee ended up.

Drinks in cups are not allowed in my car. (My rules!) Drinking from a small
cola bottle is allowed. Yes, smoking and animals are also on my banned list.
You sometimes get blind passengers as I discovered when a frog came out of
the front grille.

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Malt_Hound - 20 Apr 2005 14:28 GMT

>><snip>
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> You sometimes get blind passengers as I discovered when a frog came out of
> the front grille.

You guys are hilarious...

I drink coffee in my cars from a cup made for commuters. It has a tight
fitting lid with a small opening to sip from. It fits snuggly in the
cup holder and it never spills. I obviously do not drink from it when
heavy traffic dictates full attention, but while cruising along on the
wide-open highway it is quite easy to drink your coffee and not be
distracted in the least. I do not even have to take my eyes off the
road ahead to do so.

I occasionally smoke cigars in my cars, too, but of course I crack the
window open. The car does not smell in the least. I do not leave the
butts in the car. When I'm done with the cigar, it gets ejected out the
window. It's just a leaf (biodegradeable, and all that...)

I have a black Labrador Retriever. He loves to go for rides in my cars.
I love to take him along. You'll often see us tooling around together
in the evening in my Z3 roadster with the top down. He sheds some hair.
I vacuum it up later. He puts his nose on a window or two now and
then. Windex works quite well on nose prints.

Here's the key: I clean my cars regularly, inside and out. If you take
care of them by cleaning, there is no reason to forbid all activity that
might "soil" the interior. Heck, it's just a car...

-Fred W

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Johannes - 20 Apr 2005 14:54 GMT

> >><snip>
> >>
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>
> -Fred W

You really can't smell something that envelops you all the time. When I
bought my 9000 in 1997, it was owned by a dog owner, the dog was an
obese 10 stone old dog with a heart condition and very sweaty. The
poor dog couldn't understand why I was driving off with the car. I took
out the read seats and cleaned them with an industrial cleaner which I
understood is used in pubs and hotels etc. Then I drove with open
windows for a couple of months to get rid of the residual smell.

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ma_twain - 22 Apr 2005 22:56 GMT

>>>><snip>
>>>>
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> understood is used in pubs and hotels etc. Then I drove with open
> windows for a couple of months to get rid of the residual smell.

So the dog became attached to the Saab! Is this the first case where a
dog is a Saab fanatic?

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Malt_Hound - 23 Apr 2005 12:00 GMT

>>>><snip>
>>>>
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> understood is used in pubs and hotels etc. Then I drove with open
> windows for a couple of months to get rid of the residual smell.

While I do understand your point, my dog is young, in good running
shape, does not smell bad or have halitosis, and has *no* stones (as we
had him neutered last year) ;-)

But I would bet that I may not smell (ahem) minor traces of cigar smoke
as I as you say am immersed in it regularly. I actually find it
somewhat appealing anyway...

-Fred W

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Malt_Hound - 20 Apr 2005 14:13 GMT

> <snip>
>
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> on your lap. I know a guy that had the cups disintegrate when his wife
> crashed and the airbags deployed. Guess where the coffee ended up.

He did sue, right? I mean, it obviously wasn't his fault!! Who in the
world would ever have envisioned spilling hot coffee on their johnson
when driving around with 4 cups of coffee in their lap?

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ma_twain - 22 Apr 2005 22:59 GMT

> I think keeping a briefcase in the back of my 900 would be pretty
> dangerous in a wreck as it might fly forward into the back of head. I
> would opt to put it in the front passenger seat (if I am alone) and
> even seatbelt it in for added safety.
>
> -- Christian

Do you have the rear seat folded down? By back, I meant the "trunk" or
"boot" part of the car. If the rear seat is up, it would take a
considerable accident for a briefcase to penetrate the rear seat back.

>>Just a general warning to those keeping cell phones and other objects in
>>cup holders, as well as sitting on the seat. If you have the bad luck
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Christian M. Mericle - 25 Apr 2005 17:54 GMT

>> I think keeping a briefcase in the back of my 900 would be pretty
>> dangerous in a wreck as it might fly forward into the back of head. I
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>"boot" part of the car. If the rear seat is up, it would take a
>considerable accident for a briefcase to penetrate the rear seat back.

I do have the rear seat up but don't have a cargo shelf in the
hatchback so it would be easy for something to fly over the top of the
back (and then the front) seat in the event of an accident.

-- Christian

>>>Just a general warning to those keeping cell phones and other objects in
>>>cup holders, as well as sitting on the seat. If you have the bad luck
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>>>>>and the two don't mix, even it it is just water. Also - I don't use my
>>>>>cell phone. I let voice mail take the calls.

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Charles C. - 15 Apr 2005 00:47 GMT

I am too busy enjoying the drive ;-) to consider a drink. If you know
what I mean :-D

I remember before I bought my 9K I was looking at a Honda with a
similar engine performace (in theory anyway). The salesman made three
mistakes.

a. Showed me the drinks holder and how good it was ( what would I do
with it? I wanted to go vroom vroom.)

b. praised the car for being made in the US (sorry yanks ... if I
wanted a honda I wanted the real version made in Japan ... like the
Subaru thing we have with the 9-2)

c. I said the car made a constant noise in the back as it if it had a
faulty bearing. He said they would check it if I was going to buy it.

I took great pleasure when I saw his face as I went passed in my then 18
month old 9K (the honda garage is walking distance from where I live).

Drinks holders are banned in my cars. They will only be permitted when
I age even more and buy something subdued and respectable. In any case
the drinks bottles/cans meet with my elbow when I change gears (manual
g/box).

:-)

Feeling better now for contributing something totally irrelevant.

Charles

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Dave Hinz - 15 Apr 2005 15:09 GMT

>> This place has a couple of options.
>> http://www.stateofnine.com/page/stateofnine/CTGY/I
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> I am too busy enjoying the drive ;-) to consider a drink. If you know
> what I mean :-D

That's fine, if you don't have a 2 hour per day commute on a good day.
I don't have cupholders either (my 9-5 had one in the center console but
I needed that room for CDs), but I can certainly say I've taken coffee
along in the morning to drink on the way.

I just remembered there's that cool flippy cupholder in the dash of my
9-5 as well; that's what holds the GPS of course.

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