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Car Forum / Saab Cars / April 2005

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SID in '02 9-3

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pablo - 17 Apr 2005 16:38 GMT
From discussions, it seems the SID in 9-3s, even later years, has a long and
venerable tradition of losing pixels (of which there aren't too many). The
SID in my car now is occasionally missing a column of pixels. What I am
wondering is:

(1) Since it seems such a common issue, is it even worth fixing? I mean, if
it's simplya  flawed design, then I don't see the point in going through the
ritual of fixing it every 2 years.
(2) Do they fix the SID, or just replace it?
(3) Is this just the start, and more and more pixels will disappear and make
the display unreadable?

Thanks for insights!

...pablo
Colin Stamp - 17 Apr 2005 18:42 GMT
>From discussions, it seems the SID in 9-3s, even later years, has a long and
>venerable tradition of losing pixels (of which there aren't too many). The
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>it's simplya  flawed design, then I don't see the point in going through the
>ritual of fixing it every 2 years.

It's difficult to tell what the real failure rate is on these things
by looking at online forums - you only get to hear about the ones that
fail. The most you can say is that it's the most common SID failure
mode. My guess is that you'd be unlucky to have two units fail on you.

There are a few "fixes" published on the web, so you can try those for
a start. Other than that, you need to decide if it's worth the money
to get all your pixels back.

>(2) Do they fix the SID, or just replace it?

SAAB probably build new ones, but they're expensive. I got mine from
here:-

http://www.euro-saab-parts-direct.com

These are recon units. I paid them GBP232 for it, but they give a
refund of GBP38 if you send the old SID back. Then you need to get it
programmed for your car. I paid a local independent SAAB specialist
GBP20 for that. One plus point is that the new unit will be a SID2,
even if your old one was only a SID1.

>(3) Is this just the start, and more and more pixels will disappear and make
>the display unreadable?

Once it's started, it'll probably get slowly worse. I replaced mine
when about 7 or 8 columns were coming and going. The final straw was
when some segments of the clock display also died so I couldn't tell
what the time was.

Cheers,

Colin.
pablo - 17 Apr 2005 19:37 GMT
> [good advice edited out for brevity]

Thanks a bunch, Colin, very useful advice and info for me.

...pablo
cord - 17 Apr 2005 23:09 GMT
> > [good advice edited out for brevity]
>
> Thanks a bunch, Colin, very useful advice and info for me.
>
> ...pablo

Is that you, pecasio?
cord - 17 Apr 2005 23:07 GMT
> It's difficult to tell what the real failure rate is on these things
> by looking at online forums

It is not difficult at all. The failure rate is 100%
Colin Stamp - 18 Apr 2005 07:51 GMT
>> It's difficult to tell what the real failure rate is on these things
>> by looking at online forums
>
>It is not difficult at all. The failure rate is 100%

That's not a failure rate.

Cheers,

Colin.
Pascal B. - 17 Apr 2005 22:32 GMT
hi there
here are 2 sites explaining how to fix the gulty column on the SID....
issues are commun between 9-5 and 9-3, I had 2 columns off and used the
"iron" method...
on the 9-3 you can extract the SID with  2 credit cards that will not damage
the the plastic surround.

See http://www.saabs.cwc.net/sid_repair.htm

and http://www.saab9-5.com/main.htm

these are olny workaround solutions that may not work...

Pascal B

> From discussions, it seems the SID in 9-3s, even later years, has a long
> and venerable tradition of losing pixels (of which there aren't too many).
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>
> ...pablo
 
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