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Car Forum / Saab Cars / April 2005

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9-5 SERVICING BY NON-SAAB DEALER

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Jim - 25 Apr 2005 14:50 GMT
I want to have my 02 Saab 9-5 Aero serviced by a local garage who are not
Saab dealers.  Can anyone tell me if/how they will be able to reset the
service indicator system.  They (of course) do not have Tec 2.

Are there any (other) reasons why this is not a good idea.  They are local,
cheaper, very good etc.

TIA
PAPAGENE4JACK - 25 Apr 2005 20:44 GMT
jim, A good reason is warranty there are some things on a 02 that are still
under warranty. also After owning 4 saabs since 1990 and I volvo I have
found the dealers to be very compeitive on repairs,sometimes even cheaper,
because they go by a saab book on the labor. In other words they charge by
whAT SABB RECOMENDS ON THE LABOR FOR THE REPAIR. I found local shops when
they dont know the problem will start replacing things that dont need to
be replaced anyway that has been my experience  good luck papa
Henrik B. - 26 Apr 2005 19:57 GMT
>I want to have my 02 Saab 9-5 Aero serviced by a local garage who are not
> Saab dealers.  Can anyone tell me if/how they will be able to reset the
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> local,
> cheaper, very good etc.

Yes! You'll loose the 8 years Saab engine warranty!

Cheers!
Malt_Hound - 27 Apr 2005 11:53 GMT
>>I want to have my 02 Saab 9-5 Aero serviced by a local garage who are not
>>Saab dealers.  Can anyone tell me if/how they will be able to reset the
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>
> Cheers!

Baloney!!  You will *not* lose your factory warranty, whatever term it
is.  Just be sure to have all *required* maintenance fully documented
wherever you have it done.

-Fred W
Henrik B. - 27 Apr 2005 12:07 GMT
>> Yes! You'll loose the 8 years Saab engine warranty!
>>
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> Just be sure to have all *required* maintenance fully documented wherever
> you have it done.

And where do you see, that you won't loose the newly expanded 8 years
engine-warranty, if you don't use authorized service? I agree that you don't
loose your law-admitted warranty. But this 8 years expanded engine warranty,
is something speciel provided by Saab and isn't regulated by law.

Cheers!
Malt_Hound - 27 Apr 2005 13:13 GMT
>>>Yes! You'll loose the 8 years Saab engine warranty!
>>>
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>
> Cheers!

All warranties are regulated by law.  No warranties are required by law,
but once offered, it becomes a part of the sales agreement.  Legal
precedent has provided that no manufacturer can stipulate warranty
coverage eligibility based on whether the routine service was done by
the warranter or not.  Only that the routine service has to have been
accomplished.

This would be covered by anti-trust laws in the US.  It would amount to
limiting SAAB from drumming up service business through their warranty.

You just can't do that, at least not in the US.

I'm not a lawyer, (and I don't play one on TV) but this is my
understanding of the situation.

-Fred W
Henrik B. - 27 Apr 2005 14:24 GMT
> You just can't do that, at least not in the US.

And you are asuming that everybody "in here" are in the US....

Cheers!
Malt_Hound - 27 Apr 2005 16:03 GMT
>>You just can't do that, at least not in the US.
>
> And you are asuming that everybody "in here" are in the US....
>
> Cheers!

No, not at all.  I've been around long enough to know better. But I am
assuming that consumer protection laws are reasonably close in other
developed countries.

Cheers back!

-Fred W
Dave Hinz - 27 Apr 2005 16:40 GMT
>> You just can't do that, at least not in the US.
>
> And you are asuming that everybody "in here" are in the US....

Funny, I see him specifically saying "at least not in the US", which to
me pretty explicitly shows that he acknowledges that everyone here
isn't.
Johannes - 27 Apr 2005 17:11 GMT
> >>>Yes! You'll loose the 8 years Saab engine warranty!
> >>>
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> I'm not a lawyer, (and I don't play one on TV) but this is my
> understanding of the situation.

There have been various attempts by manufacturers to get EU rulings that
increases their control. I'm not sure how far the state of play is. But
attempts have been made to outlaw car body panels and other spares from
third parties.
Dan - 27 Apr 2005 20:44 GMT
>>>Yes! You'll loose the 8 years Saab engine warranty!
>>>
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>
> Cheers!

Can you point saab link that documents this warranty?
Henrik B. - 28 Apr 2005 08:28 GMT
> Can you point saab link that documents this warranty?

Only in swedish...
http://www.saab.com/main/SE/sv/pressreleases/recent/4/index.xml

Cheers!

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