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Painting my SAAB - Taking votes

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LC - 02 May 2005 02:12 GMT
I'm going to paint my dull and dingy C900 this summer.  I'd like to take a
vote as to what color I should paint this beast.  It was an edwardian grey
at one time long ago, but would like to go different.  The interior is a
beige cloth.
If you have a vote, and would like to share, that would be great.  Pictures
of a vehicle painted this color would be awesome, or just a shot of the
color would work as well.

Thanks a ton guys!
-LC
Nasty Bob - 02 May 2005 18:19 GMT
> I'm going to paint my dull and dingy C900 this summer.  I'd like to take a
> vote as to what color I should paint this beast.  It was an edwardian grey
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Paint it a rusty brown / red colour. It should last a lifetime ;)
ma_twain - 03 May 2005 01:14 GMT
> I'm going to paint my dull and dingy C900 this summer.  I'd like to take a
> vote as to what color I should paint this beast.  It was an edwardian grey
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Thanks a ton guys!
> -LC

A nice metallic black :-)
Dexter J - 03 May 2005 02:05 GMT
Salutations:

>> I'm going to paint my dull and dingy C900 this summer.  I'd like to  
>> take a vote as to what color I should paint this beast.  It was an  
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> A nice metallic black :-)

A dignified color choice in an undignified time. My personal choice and  
current issue too. SAAB always seems to look better in black tie.

However, when the moon is full and the jar is empty, I have always though  
that it would be a total hoot to actually chrome a SAAB 900 and mirror the  
windows to match. Then - recess the grill completely flat with retractable  
lights like an old Charger. But then, there just doesn't seem any way to  
chrome the roof, pillars and rear quarters to match.

They claim that some of the new paints are *pretty close* - but not really  
the full monty from what I've seen. That said - an all mirror C900T  
blowing by you on the highway at night would really be a show stopper  
given the shape and stance.

I wonder how they pull it off on passenger airliners? Is that actually  
polished aluminium skin and if so, how to they keep it so clean?

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Saab Guy - 03 May 2005 02:24 GMT
Dexter J,

Hello again! Are you enjoying the Saab videos I've made available in an earlier post above?

SaabGuy

> Salutations:
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Dexter J - 03 May 2005 02:38 GMT
Salutations:

> Dexter J,
>
> Hello again! Are you enjoying the Saab videos I've made available in an  
> earlier post above?
>
> SaabGuy

Hey SaabGuy.

Nope - I'm afraid I am sort of in stasis on this machine right now as  
regards drivers. Bookmarked the link for future reference though. Last  
year or the year before - a chap put together some really great video of  
his C900 doing slalom in the UK. Homemade, but great stuff with really  
good tunes mixed in for flavour.

Can't for the life of me find it on my drive (went looking when you asked)  
- but if you search through alt.autos.saab on google - you might be able  
to track it down. Make a nice addition if you are collecting private stuff.

Cheers.

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Saab Guy - 03 May 2005 03:16 GMT
Dexter J,

There is a lot of private videos out there, so this collection I am gathering is just official from Saab and anything else that is very closely related such as the Trollhätten Tourist Video that has a lot of Saab footage in it.

What other videos do you have?

SaabGuy

> Salutations:
>
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Pooh Bear - 03 May 2005 06:46 GMT
> Dexter J,
>
> There is a lot of private videos out there

So you can't even conjugate verbs properly either !

Can't say I'm surprised !

Are you a *paid* troll ?

Graham
Craig's Saab C900 Site - 03 May 2005 09:45 GMT
>There is a lot of private videos out there, so this collection I am gatheri=
>ng is just official from Saab and anything else that is very closely relate=
>d such as the Trollh=E4tten Tourist Video that has a lot of Saab footage in=
> it.=20

Not wanting to be accused of being a top-poster.... 8-)

If you have videos feature C900's, do they exist on a seperate page that I
could link to somewhere? Otherwise, I'd be interested in archiving video
files featuring C900's and making them available from the gallery section of
my main C900 website at "http://www.saab900classic.net/gallery.html". So far
I'm building up a collection of pics from various places (including selected
ones of my own), but adding C900 vidoes to the mix would be a good addition
I think.

Regards,

Craig.
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Pooh Bear - 03 May 2005 06:40 GMT
> Dexter J,
>
> Hello again! Are you enjoying the Saab videos I've made available in an earlier post above?

No - I'm pissed off with you arrogant top-posting actually !

I doubt many ppl here will be interested in you for long on account of your attitude.

Graham
Tex - 03 May 2005 15:10 GMT
> No - I'm pissed off with you arrogant top-posting actually !

Something needs correction here.

It'd be best to tend to your own poor grammar before chiding others for
theirs (in reference to your post of 5/3 @ 1:48 AM in reply to 'Saab Guy').

- tex
Dave Hinz - 03 May 2005 20:44 GMT
>> No - I'm pissed off with you arrogant top-posting actually !
>
> Something needs correction here.
>
> It'd be best to tend to your own poor grammar before chiding others for
> theirs (in reference to your post of 5/3 @ 1:48 AM in reply to 'Saab Guy').

Great, now the troll has got the regulars fighting amongst themselves.
Saab Guy - 03 May 2005 20:46 GMT
> >> No - I'm pissed off with you arrogant top-posting actually !
> >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Great, now the troll has got the regulars fighting amongst themselves.

Dave,

I didn't mean to. My apologies.

SaabGuy
Stephen B. - 03 May 2005 04:12 GMT
"Dexter J"  wrote
<snip>
> However, when the moon is full and the jar is empty, I have always though
> that it would be a total hoot to actually chrome a SAAB 900 and mirror the
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I wonder how they pull it off on passenger airliners? Is that actually
> polished aluminium skin and if so, how to they keep it so clean?

Sounds cool. I think the plains are clear coated over polished aluminum. It
makes for a lot lighter plane without all the layers of paint in-between
(thus a fuel savings).

Stephen B.
Saab Guy - 03 May 2005 04:20 GMT
Stephen B,

Did you enjoy the videos I posted above yet?

SaabGuy

> "Dexter J"  wrote
> <snip>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Stephen B.
James Sweet - 03 May 2005 05:02 GMT
> They claim that some of the new paints are *pretty close* - but not really
> the full monty from what I've seen. That said - an all mirror C900T
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I wonder how they pull it off on passenger airliners? Is that actually
> polished aluminium skin and if so, how to they keep it so clean?

It's polished aluminum skin, gotta be coated with something to keep it from
oxidizing.
Saab Guy - 03 May 2005 05:05 GMT
James,

What do you think about the Saab videos yet? Have you looked at the ones I posted above yet? I got nearly 61 of them up for all of us to enjoy.

SaabGuy

> > They claim that some of the new paints are *pretty close* - but not really
> > the full monty from what I've seen. That said - an all mirror C900T
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> It's polished aluminum skin, gotta be coated with something to keep it from
> oxidizing.
Phuoc Nghuy - 03 May 2005 17:54 GMT
> James,
>
> What do you think about the Saab videos yet? Have you looked at the ones
> I posted above yet? I got nearly 61 of them up for all of us to enjoy.
>
> SaabGuy

Hopefully James feels like me and couldn't give a flying f.ck about your
saab videos.

Phuoc
Saab Guy - 03 May 2005 17:55 GMT
Phuoc,

Okay, not a problem. They aren't mine, they're everyone's to share.

SaabGuy

> > James,
> >
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>
> Phuoc
Phuoc Nghuy - 03 May 2005 18:42 GMT
> Phuoc,
>
> Okay, not a problem. They aren't mine, they're everyone's to share.
>
> SaabGuy

Are you really as fuckwitted and thick as you seem to be?

Phuoc
James Sweet - 04 May 2005 04:16 GMT
> Phuoc,
>
> Okay, not a problem. They aren't mine, they're everyone's to share.
>
> SaabGuy

Don't feed teh trolls...
James Sweet - 04 May 2005 04:16 GMT
> James,
>
> What do you think about the Saab videos yet? Have you looked at the ones I posted above yet? I got nearly 61 of them up for all of us to enjoy.
>
> SaabGuy

Haven't checked them out yet actually, been burried in other stuff. I do
plan to have a look eventually though, I like most things related to Saab,
at least classic Saab.
Pooh Bear - 03 May 2005 06:46 GMT
> > They claim that some of the new paints are *pretty close* - but not really
> > the full monty from what I've seen. That said - an all mirror C900T
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> It's polished aluminum skin, gotta be coated with something to keep it from
> oxidizing.

Clearly American Airlines have the recipe !

Graham
Pooh Bear - 04 May 2005 03:23 GMT
> > They claim that some of the new paints are *pretty close* - but not really
> > the full monty from what I've seen. That said - an all mirror C900T
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> It's polished aluminum skin, gotta be coated with something to keep it from
> oxidizing.

Ahh well that's the neat thing with aluminium. It makes its own very thin oxide
layer to protect itself. I'm not sure what the airlines do. Believe it or not
they consider the weight of paint ( or laquer ) when doing their sums about the
economics of operation.

Graham
Craig's Saab C900 Site - 03 May 2005 09:40 GMT
>Salutations:

>>> I'm going to paint my dull and dingy C900 this summer.  I'd like to  
>>> take a vote as to what color I should paint this beast.  It was an  
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>
>> A nice metallic black :-)

>A dignified color choice in an undignified time. My personal choice and  
>current issue too. SAAB always seems to look better in black tie.

My current car is white (Saab's Cirrus White colour!), but today I finally
figured out (doh!) that the rust eating into the hood just back from the
front lip is coming from inside the pressed metal fold just above where the
sprung hood latch attaches... grrr. so I might replace it with the hood that
is in almost perfect condition on my donor car which is metallic blue. It'll
match the interior of the car which is what I'd call 'steel blue' and gray.

Next move is get some funky seat covers. The old sheepskin ones are gawjus
to sit on but they're quite worn and really make the car look sad inside.
8-)

Regards,

Craig.
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Sleeker GT Phwoar - 03 May 2005 10:36 GMT
> They claim that some of the new paints are *pretty close* - but not really  
> the full monty from what I've seen. That said - an all mirror C900T  
> blowing by you on the highway at night would really be a show stopper  
> given the shape and stance.

http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-66860.html
looks pretty good. That is painted steel not polished ali.

And this stuf (ChromeFX) isn't just sprayable on metal.
http://www.alsacorp.com/products/chromefx/chromefx_show.htm
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Dexter J - 03 May 2005 16:56 GMT
Salutations:

>> They claim that some of the new paints are *pretty close* - but not  
>> really
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> And this stuf (ChromeFX) isn't just sprayable on metal.
> http://www.alsacorp.com/products/chromefx/chromefx_show.htm

Hey there Skodapilot!! Long time no chat. How's every little thing on your  
side of the pond?

Oh man - I don't care what the purists say - that BMW (aside from being a  
brand I don't personally like) is pretty keen looking. I don't get the  
'illegal' traffic on the thread though. I know it is illegal to tint your  
windows in such a way that the authorities can't see in and/or you can't  
safely see out - but - how can a paint scheme be illegal?

As to actual coatings, it looks like about $1,500 - $2,000 for the paint  
kit to cover a SAAB. This isn't all that far out these days if you look at  
some of the more serious custom paint out there.

Wish I could see the machine in the flesh - if my old BSA tank was  
anything to go by, you would seriously need to shade the machine in the  
sun because it would start collecting heat pretty fast. Not a huge problem  
where I live up here in Canada - in fact the surface would probably be a  
bonus come mid-January here.

Thanks, as always, for the trick links brother. What I wouldn't give for  
the free time and extra cash to actually do this to my Aero.

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Sleeker GT Phwoar - 04 May 2005 09:56 GMT
> Hey there Skodapilot!! Long time no chat. How's every little thing on your  
> side of the pond?

Good, still Saabless, but spendiung too much money on the GT4/All-trac.
Noticed a blow in one of the flexi sections of the exhaust. It was
cheaper to buy a bigger bore stainless system than an OEM.

> Oh man - I don't care what the purists say - that BMW (aside from being a  
> brand I don't personally like) is pretty keen looking. I don't get the  
> 'illegal' traffic on the thread though. I know it is illegal to tint your  
> windows in such a way that the authorities can't see in and/or you can't  
> safely see out - but - how can a paint scheme be illegal?

I tend not to like a lot of BMW drivers (although that type tend have
been priced out of the market and are now driving VW golf TDis now), but
that paint is mental.

I guess now you now have to prove that you are deliberatley trying to
blind another driver.
> As to actual coatings, it looks like about $1,500 - $2,000 for the paint  
> kit to cover a SAAB. This isn't all that far out these days if you look at  
> some of the more serious custom paint out there.

Oh I know, I couldn't believe how innexpensive compared to the flip type
stuff, but it is the special spraying/flowing equipment that costs.

> Wish I could see the machine in the flesh - if my old BSA tank was  
> anything to go by, you would seriously need to shade the machine in the  
> sun because it would start collecting heat pretty fast. Not a huge problem  
> where I live up here in Canada - in fact the surface would probably be a  
> bonus come mid-January here.

Of course, all the reflection would be extra visibility.

> Thanks, as always, for the trick links brother. What I wouldn't give for  
> the free time and extra cash to actually do this to my Aero.

I would love to take a C900 Carlsson/SPG, give it black bigger wheels,
deep tint windows, and the big whale tail rear spoiler (rather than the
rubber duck) and have the body fully chrome sprayed. I reckon with just
the rubber rear edge of the spoiler and the wiper blades, in black, it
would looks so sleak.

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Stephen B. - 04 May 2005 22:25 GMT
"Dexter J"  wrote
<SNIP>

> However, when the moon is full and the jar is empty, I have always though
> that it would be a total hoot to actually chrome a SAAB 900 and mirror the
> windows to match. Then - recess the grill completely flat with retractable
> lights like an old Charger. But then, there just doesn't seem any way to
> chrome the roof, pillars and rear quarters to match.

I bet it would also keep those high beaming SUVs a bit further back and less
blinding. Definitely an advantage worth considering.

Stephen B.
Dexter J - 06 May 2005 18:51 GMT
Salutations:

> "Dexter J"  wrote
> <SNIP>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Stephen B.

>> http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-66860.html

>> http://www.alsacorp.com/products/chromefx/chromefx_show.htm

Again - sadly, a pipe dream for the moment.

Still, keeping the above bookmarks for when it comes time to actually  
re-spray the Aero. I think the 1993 9000 would be an equally good  
candidate for the treatment given the lines. Better in many ways than the  
BMW linked above.

First though - must find my missing 75hp. I have some very good leads from  
saabnet on that one which I'm working on next week.

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Malt_Hound - 06 May 2005 20:44 GMT
> First though - must find my missing 75hp. I have some very good leads
> from  saabnet on that one which I'm working on next week.

Dexter,

I recall that there are a couple of switch signals that, if sensed, put
the ECU in base boost mode.  I know the cruise control sends a signal
and maybe brake light or Air Conditioner (though the latter makes little
sense since that would be when you'd want more power!)?

I think there was some good info on troubleshooting base-boost only
problems on Tom Town send's' SAABMaster web site.

http://www.townsendimports.com/

It's at <http://68.18.187.59/turbo_folder/turbo_apc_docs.htm> right now
but he is hosting it on a server with dynamic IP address so the address
changes pretty often.

I have one of these exact same problems to troubleshoot also.  It's on a
'93 9000CSET that my daughter has been driving at school.  Up 'till now,
I have not been too motivated to get it fixed because she really does
not need the extra boost and, well, I'm a lazy Dad.  But she'll be home
from college soon so what the heck...

On that one I know the APC solenoid is bad in addition to something else
because it was on base boost before I filched the solenoid to fix a '92
I used to have.  Fun, fun, fun...

-Fred W
Pooh Bear - 03 May 2005 04:15 GMT
> I'm going to paint my dull and dingy C900 this summer.  I'd like to take a
> vote as to what color I should paint this beast.  It was an edwardian grey
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> of a vehicle painted this color would be awesome, or just a shot of the
> color would work as well.

I think a metallic is a must for a great vehicle.

Mind you - have you seen those *mica* filled paints ?

I like the silvery golds myself. I owned a couple of Vauxhall ( GM - UK )
Cavaliers with a great colour that wasn't *quite* silver or gold but had a hint
of gold and tended to 'adopt' the colour of its' surroundings. Rather nice.
Everyone agreed it was a way cool colour. My neighbour called it 'oyster' IIRC.

Does that appeal ? I can offer the GM UK paint code if you like. There are
actually 2 similar colours - one with a hint more gold than the other - but they
both have the same trick of being chameleon-like.

It goes well with beige interiors too btw !

Graham
Staffan V - 07 May 2005 10:12 GMT
> I'm going to paint my dull and dingy C900 this summer.  I'd like to take a
> vote as to what color I should paint this beast.

Something that looks very cool is the classis two colour used on the
900 Lyx. Bottom part silver, top part light blue. Pictures at
http://www.saabklubben.com/arkiv/900/900lyx.shtml

Speaking about two-tone paint I have actually considered ivory and
burgundy. If you want something out of the ordinary perhaps jade green
(Gn12) may be an interesting choise. See
http://www.saabklubben.com/data/farger/farger.shtml for a list of
colours.
Paul Halliday - 09 May 2005 22:24 GMT
Here's another link at my special editions website:
<http://www.pjgh.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/saab/specials/pages/1983_lux.html>

It's also referred to as the Lux. I've never heard it referred to as
the 'Lyx' ... you learn something new every day. Thanks.
Dan RatherNot - 08 May 2005 21:31 GMT
Red or yellow. It'll get noticed.

> I'm going to paint my dull and dingy C900 this summer.  I'd like to take a
> vote as to what color I should paint this beast.  It was an edwardian grey
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Thanks a ton guys!
> -LC
 
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