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Dexter J - 16 May 2005 19:55 GMT

Salutations:

I was wondering if any of my European and/or English brothers and sisters
here could price a BPC valve for me on your side of the pond?

Would very much appriciate any links (and translations where appropiate)..

Thank you kindly.

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Grunff - 16 May 2005 20:06 GMT

> Salutations:
>
> I was wondering if any of my European and/or English brothers and
> sisters here could price a BPC valve for me on your side of the pond?
>
> Would very much appriciate any links (and translations where appropiate)..

About 3-4 years ago, I needed one for my 9kT. Dealer price was around
£150 (USD300). Scrap yard was £10. Replacement was still working when
the car was eventually retired. Wish I'd kept it for you.

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Dexter J - 16 May 2005 21:05 GMT

Salutations:

>> Salutations:
>> I was wondering if any of my European and/or English brothers and
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> £150 (USD300). Scrap yard was £10. Replacement was still working when
> the car was eventually retired. Wish I'd kept it for you.

Thanks Grunff - I appreciate the thought anyway.

I'm looking for the Trionic 3 line one that sits up on the rad and given
what I found out about mine by taking it apart - I'm hoping to find a new
one to modify before placement. Basically it looks like $200(usd) best
price state side. Which is like about $300.00 once shipping and border
duties are taken into account. Works out to about the same at the dealer
after local VAT.

Did you catch my post mortem post on the BPC APC valve on the weekend?
Basically - I was surprised at how clever the actual device was, but
really disappointed at how it was manufactured.

I would dearly love to figure out who actually makes the parts for them
over in Europe. It's not a complicated design at all. Just not very well
executed (I smell a another cost accountant at the engineer's meeting
somewhere).. :) ..

I have hooked up a relief type regulator as a sort of MBC to set the
wastegate pressure to 12pds and no longer have base boost. But, it's a
dodgy thing my English brother - not nearly as tight as I would like it.

Anyway - was hoping that somewhere they might have been sold for somewhat
less than over here. I fear having visited Elkparts that it may be
pro-rated pricing worldwide.

Cheers.

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Grunff - 16 May 2005 21:43 GMT

> Did you catch my post mortem post on the BPC APC valve on the weekend?
> Basically - I was surprised at how clever the actual device was, but
> really disappointed at how it was manufactured.

Just read through it - interesting, but not shocking given how often the
buggers fail.

> I would dearly love to figure out who actually makes the parts for them
> over in Europe. It's not a complicated design at all. Just not very
> well executed (I smell a another cost accountant at the engineer's
> meeting somewhere).. :) ..

I bet...

> I have hooked up a relief type regulator as a sort of MBC to set the
> wastegate pressure to 12pds and no longer have base boost. But, it's a
> dodgy thing my English brother - not nearly as tight as I would like it.

Keeps you going for now, and at least you understand the implications of
a MBC, and I'm sure will be treating it gently.

> Anyway - was hoping that somewhere they might have been sold for
> somewhat less than over here. I fear having visited Elkparts that it
> may be pro-rated pricing worldwide.

Yeah, sounds likely. Good luck finding one.

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Pooh Bear - 17 May 2005 10:43 GMT

> Salutations:
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>
> Thank you kindly.

BPC ? valve ?

I know someone who breaks 9000s if that helps.

Give me a part number - I have a Saab EPC ( electronic parts catalogue ) of
moderately recent vintage.

Graham

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Malt_Hound - 17 May 2005 15:17 GMT

>>Salutations:
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> BPC ? valve ?

Boost Pressure Control valve, also known as the APC solenoid.

> I know someone who breaks 9000s if that helps.

After Dexter's lengthy discussion of the design problems with this
device, why on earth would he want to buy another one used? The
replacement unit might fail the day after he installed it...

-Fred W

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Dexter J - 17 May 2005 15:51 GMT

Salutations:

> After Dexter's lengthy discussion of the design problems with this
> device, why on earth would he want to buy another one used? The
> replacement unit might fail the day after he installed it...
>
> -Fred W

Hey brother Fred - well I'm not so sure now.

If I can find one that still has correct 3ohms across pin 1-2 and 2-3 and
holds air - I might be able to preventively repair the vent collar by
flowing some solder into the groove the control disk cuts if it isn't too
far gone. I don't think I would be able to collar the vent ring internally
with a better material as I suspect the control disk is specifically
weighted and shouldn't be reduced with a smaller disk. The disk is wafer
thin and made of the a very stiff stock.

I'd have to really be careful and file/polish the solder back so it was
smooth in there - but for the right price it would make an interesting
web-page and project.

Basically if I can get the vents balanced again - there is no reason at
all that the control disk will ever touch the sides again. Like I said -
it really is a brilliant concept. Completely frictionless if you balance
the airflow evenly.

It couldn't gall me any more than having to modify a new one at the price.

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Dexter J - 17 May 2005 15:34 GMT

Salutations:

> BPC ? valve ?
>
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>
> Graham

Well thank you kindly - the part number is 7485576. It is the same unit
right up to late model NG900 turbos.

I would be very interested in what a known good used one is going for (the
vender needs to confirm an even 3ohms between pin 1-2 and 2-3 and that it
rattles slightly when shaken). I guess if I'm going to modify a new one
anyway, I can repair the channel the control disk digs out in the vent
ring in a used one too.

Given what I found out about the part when I disassembled it - I've been
leaning towards buying a new one and fixing it so it shouldn't wear out
prematurely again. However, depending on the savings - it might be worth
trying a used one to see if I can repair it early.

Cheers - please kick me a link if your contact has one. I'll flag the
group back if I find one first.

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