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2 Saabs Not Running

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itten - 25 May 2005 01:15 GMT
I have an '84 Saab 900 and a '94 Saab Turbo Convertible and both have
been sitting, not driven since September of 2004. I jump start each one
about every month, but neither will re-start without jumper cables. The
engines seem to run fine, they just won't start on their own. I have a
new battery in the '84 and both cars were running fine pryor to me
taking them off the road. Also the check engine light comes on in the
'84. Do I need to get these cars towed into the shop or is there
something I can do to get them to start on their own?
Pooh Bear - 25 May 2005 01:45 GMT
> I have an '84 Saab 900 and a '94 Saab Turbo Convertible and both have
> been sitting, not driven since September of 2004. I jump start each one
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> '84. Do I need to get these cars towed into the shop or is there
> something I can do to get them to start on their own?

Batteries aren't meant to be left lying around like that. They
self-discharge for one thing.

Try a good healthy charge before anything else.

Graham
Craig's Saab C900 Site - 25 May 2005 03:31 GMT
>I have an '84 Saab 900 and a '94 Saab Turbo Convertible and both have
>been sitting, not driven since September of 2004. I jump start each one
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>'84. Do I need to get these cars towed into the shop or is there
>something I can do to get them to start on their own?

When you jump-start them, do you just walk away and leave them, or actually
throttle up the engines? I don't know about the 1994 models, but with the 84
C900, you will need to either hold your foot down on the throttle so the
engine revs go high enough when starting, or do it after starting, to kick
in the voltage regulator so start charging the battery.

Also, charging with the engine idling will certainly work, but the
alternator output is going to be quite limited so you'd want to actually
take the car for a drive both to ensure the engine's getting warm enough for
the fluids to work properly, but also to keep the alternator clean and in
good condition and give the battery a chance to charge properly.

I can start my 1983 and 1985 C900's but if I leave them idling without
getting the voltage regulators to start up, the charge in the battery won't
be replenished.

Regards,

Craig.
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al010101 - 25 May 2005 03:41 GMT
an alternator is not mean't to charge a dead battery and is hell on it, you
need to pull the battery's and charge them properly, autozone will charge
them for free, takes about 1.5hrs each.

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>>I have an '84 Saab 900 and a '94 Saab Turbo Convertible and both have
>>been sitting, not driven since September of 2004. I jump start each one
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> Craig.
Pooh Bear - 25 May 2005 03:52 GMT
> an alternator is not mean't to charge a dead battery and is hell on it, you
> need to pull the battery's and charge them properly, autozone will charge
> them for free, takes about 1.5hrs each.

Agreed.

Deep discharge of a battery is bad news. It needs to be 'reconditioned' so to
speak.

I'm in 2 minds over fast recharge. I've known it make a dead battery come back
to life. I have my own homebuilt rig that recharges at around 20 Amps. Certainly
gets some charge in there fast. OTOH it can also be hell on a battery. Worth
trying on an old one for sure though.

Graham
Malt_Hound - 25 May 2005 13:17 GMT
>>an alternator is not mean't to charge a dead battery and is hell on it, you
>>need to pull the battery's and charge them properly, autozone will charge
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> gets some charge in there fast. OTOH it can also be hell on a battery. Worth
> trying on an old one for sure though.

Agreed.  Try trickle charging first, and fast charge as a last ditch
effort (try to blow the sulfation off the plates) just before you trade
it in on a new one.

-Fred W
es - 25 May 2005 14:58 GMT
ok so if u charge the battery and start it it runs for a bit but then
dies while it is running? if that's the case then its the alternator or
that alternator belts are not tight.

or if u charge the battery it runs and u turn it off but then u go back
to start it and its dead. that means its the battery or there is a
shortage somewhere in the wiering.
PAPAGENE4JACK - 27 May 2005 00:02 GMT
Sounds like a typical SAAB to me.  Good luck papa
ma_twain - 28 May 2005 01:09 GMT
> I have an '84 Saab 900 and a '94 Saab Turbo Convertible and both have
> been sitting, not driven since September of 2004. I jump start each one
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> '84. Do I need to get these cars towed into the shop or is there
> something I can do to get them to start on their own?

It sounds like you need to DRIVE the cars. Not only will the batteries
be charged, but the fluids will be circulated and you won't have flat
spots in the tires.  Also, just how old is the gas in the tank?  A car
needs to be driven.  If you don't have time to drive them, perhaps you
could sell them to someone who wants a classic Saab.
 
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