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'96 900 turbo 60,000 mile tune up

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jon22 - 15 Jun 2005 07:18 GMT
i'm trying to find a good place to take my saab 900 se turbo convertible
for the 60k mile tune-up.  could anyone give me any tips on an honest
mechanic?  also, what should be done to the car in this tune-up?  thank
you very much.
Malt_Hound - 15 Jun 2005 13:46 GMT
> i'm trying to find a good place to take my saab 900 se turbo convertible
> for the 60k mile tune-up.  could anyone give me any tips on an honest
> mechanic?  also, what should be done to the car in this tune-up?  thank
> you very much.

I'd bring it Zimbabwe.  I hear they are all honest there.

Where the heck are you?  At least a continent would be a good start...

-Fred W
Sleeker GT Phwoar - 15 Jun 2005 15:36 GMT
In article <04b24aa1ce224f264d3dd254e4b60d60
@localhost.talkaboutautos.com>, jtbecke@nospam.yahoo.com says...
> i'm trying to find a good place to take my saab 900 se turbo convertible
> for the 60k mile tune-up.  could anyone give me any tips on an honest
> mechanic?  also, what should be done to the car in this tune-up?  thank
> you very much.

I can recommend Saab Higher Oak, or Malbrad.
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jon22 - 15 Jun 2005 19:09 GMT
i guess that would have helped.  im in los angeles, california.  like i
said, i'm also interested in what is included in the 60000mile tun-up, and
maybe what i can expect to pay.  thanks again.
Sleeker GT Phwoar - 16 Jun 2005 12:47 GMT
In article <45f4c43b78b8fb7d2cf3d99a7ae8f206
@localhost.talkaboutautos.com>, jtbecke@nospam.yahoo.com says...
> i guess that would have helped.  im in los angeles, california.  like i
> said, i'm also interested in what is included in the 60000mile tun-up, and
> maybe what i can expect to pay.  thanks again.

Sorry couldn't resist it. We get a lot of Americans come on here, and
not post where they are (even in america), asking for decent garages.

We are a pretty mixed bunch here, with US, UK, Mainland Europe and
Austalian regulars.
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ShazWozza - 16 Jun 2005 16:17 GMT
> In article <45f4c43b78b8fb7d2cf3d99a7ae8f206
> @localhost.talkaboutautos.com>, jtbecke@nospam.yahoo.com says...
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> We are a pretty mixed bunch here, with US, UK, Mainland Europe and
> Austalian regulars.

The aus.cars group gets lots of Americans thinking they are posting to
austin texas cars.

No country does parochial quite so well as the US.
Pooh Bear - 16 Jun 2005 21:16 GMT
> i guess that would have helped.  im in los angeles, california.  like i
> said, i'm also interested in what is included in the 60000mile tun-up, and
> maybe what i can expect to pay.  thanks again.

Do you mean a service ?

Maybe I missed something exotic here but the engine management 'tunes-up' your
engine continually !

Graham
yaofeng - 16 Jun 2005 22:01 GMT
> > i guess that would have helped.  im in los angeles, california.  like i
> > said, i'm also interested in what is included in the 60000mile tun-up, and
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>
> Graham

Playing word games?
Pooh Bear - 17 Jun 2005 02:59 GMT
> > > i guess that would have helped.  im in los angeles, california.  like i
> > > said, i'm also interested in what is included in the 60000mile tun-up, and
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>
> Playing word games?

Not at all. A 'tune-up' in the UK would mean taking your car to a tuning specialist
for a performance upgrade. Things like re-chipping, adjusting turbo boost etc.

Regular periodic maintenance is called servicing.

Graham
Dave Hinz - 17 Jun 2005 13:23 GMT
> A 'tune-up' in the UK would mean taking your car to a tuning specialist
> for a performance upgrade. Things like re-chipping, adjusting turbo boost etc.
> Regular periodic maintenance is called servicing.

In the US, "tune-up" more or less used to mean "adjust the fuel and
ignition systems", back in the carb & points & distributor days.  Now
that most people don't have cars with such equipment, the term isn't
used much.  A performance upgrade, though, would be something like
"speed shop" work or something.
Pooh Bear - 17 Jun 2005 16:30 GMT
> > A 'tune-up' in the UK would mean taking your car to a tuning specialist
> > for a performance upgrade. Things like re-chipping, adjusting turbo boost etc.
> > Regular periodic maintenance is called servicing.
>
> In the US, "tune-up" more or less used to mean "adjust the fuel and
> ignition systems", back in the carb & points & distributor days.

I kind of wondered about that. Those were the days - days it's nice to forget ! I recall
stripping and rebuilding the classic Lucas 25D4 distributor to replace worn plates that were
causing timing jitter.

Jeez, you had to replace the points, gap them - set the timing and replace plugs since engines
didn't burn so clean then. Not to mention adjusting carb(s) to get the mixture right. Oh and cam
follower gaps. And a fauly condenser could screw the whole lot up. Actually makes ECUs look quite
friendly !

>  Now
> that most people don't have cars with such equipment, the term isn't
> used much.  A performance upgrade, though, would be something like
> "speed shop" work or something.

As ever, UK and US terminology intruigingly differ. We'd call it a tuning shop. Well, probably
not 'shop' actually but I'm sure you get my point. There is one very near me actually with dynos
and all that stuff.

Graham
Dave Hinz - 17 Jun 2005 16:33 GMT
>> In the US, "tune-up" more or less used to mean "adjust the fuel and
>> ignition systems", back in the carb & points & distributor days.
>
> I kind of wondered about that. Those were the days - days it's nice to forget !

Oh, I dunno, I rather enjoy wrenching on my older Saabs.

> I recall
> stripping and rebuilding the classic Lucas 25D4 distributor to replace worn plates that were
> causing timing jitter.

I suppose it being Lucas, rather than Bosch, would change the enjoyment
factor quite a bit.

> Jeez, you had to replace the points, gap them - set the timing and replace plugs since engines
> didn't burn so clean then. Not to mention adjusting carb(s) to get the mixture right.

Yup.  What better way to spend a sunny saturday afternoon?

> Oh and cam
> follower gaps. And a fauly condenser could screw the whole lot up. Actually makes ECUs look quite
> friendly !

I like machines that I can see working, myself.  Dwell relates directly
to points gap, can be visualized, and is obvious when something is
mechanically wrong - because you can see it.  Not saying it's a better
technology than the ECUs, but it's certainly more approachable.
Pooh Bear - 17 Jun 2005 17:30 GMT
> >> In the US, "tune-up" more or less used to mean "adjust the fuel and
> >> ignition systems", back in the carb & points & distributor days.
> >
> > I kind of wondered about that. Those were the days - days it's nice to forget !
>
> Oh, I dunno, I rather enjoy wrenching on my older Saabs.

You like the 'wrench knuckles' too ???        ;-)

> > I recall stripping and rebuilding the classic Lucas 25D4 distributor to replace > worn plates that
> were causing timing jitter.
>
> I suppose it being Lucas, rather than Bosch, would change the enjoyment
> factor quite a bit.

Actually it wasn't too tricky. Lovely vernier timing adjustement. ( Rover called it the 'octane
selector' on the 2000TC ) Haven't seen a Bosch close-up to compare sadly.

> > Jeez, you had to replace the points, gap them - set the timing and replace plugs > since engines
> didn't burn so clean then. Not to mention adjusting carb(s) to get > the mixture right.
>
> Yup.  What better way to spend a sunny saturday afternoon?

Thankfully those were my student days. I was quite unusual in even being a student with a car back then
! Today they all have one and unlikely to be as much as 10 yrs old.

Self-maintenance was the only option. I  reckon I've done pretty much everything on a car bar welding
and a gearbox strip / rebuild.

> > Oh and cam follower gaps. And a fauly condenser could screw the whole lot > up. Actually makes ECUs
> look quite friendly !
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> mechanically wrong - because you can see it.  Not saying it's a better
> technology than the ECUs, but it's certainly more approachable.

I still have a sneaking regard for this. It's so much more *tangible*. I wouldn't like to rely on it
for my everyday travel though !

Graham
 
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