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Car Forum / Saab Cars / June 2005

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es - 16 Jun 2005 02:12 GMT
hi my 1990 9000 cd 2.0 turbo seems to miss a beat when it is raining
out it feels as if the car just stops getting fuel air or spark for 1
sec or 2. mostly when i am in boost and in 2nd gear accelerating
quickly and its kinda random to?

here are my thouhts on this

1 faulty fuel cut off switch
2 faulty DI cassette
3 faulty mass air flow sensor

the check engine light is not on
and i got a manual boost controller too set at 12 to 14 psi(i was not
at 14 psi when this occurred)
es - 16 Jun 2005 02:43 GMT
or it could be the  Throttle switch??
Henrik B. - 16 Jun 2005 10:16 GMT
> hi my 1990 9000 cd 2.0 turbo seems to miss a beat when it is raining
> out it feels as if the car just stops getting fuel air or spark for 1
> sec or 2. mostly when i am in boost and in 2nd gear accelerating
> quickly and its kinda random to?

Does your car have TCS?

Cheers!
Malt_Hound - 16 Jun 2005 18:45 GMT
>>hi my 1990 9000 cd 2.0 turbo seems to miss a beat when it is raining
>>out it feels as if the car just stops getting fuel air or spark for 1
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>
> Cheers!

AFAIR, no 1990 cars had TCS.  I think that was introduced
(unfortunately) in '92.

-Fred W
bust spam - 17 Jun 2005 04:44 GMT
> hi my 1990 9000 cd 2.0 turbo seems to miss a beat when it is raining
> out it feels as if the car just stops getting fuel air or spark for 1
> sec or 2.

Your spark plugs must have old cracked spark plug wires.
es - 17 Jun 2005 19:42 GMT
> > hi my 1990 9000 cd 2.0 turbo seems to miss a beat when it is raining
> > out it feels as if the car just stops getting fuel air or spark for 1
> > sec or 2.
>
> Your spark plugs must have old cracked spark plug wires.

NO that's not it because my car has direct ignition no spark plug
wires.

the car is running good now for some odd reason?
Laura K - 17 Jun 2005 20:02 GMT
> NO that's not it because my car has direct ignition no spark plug
> wires.
>
> the car is running good now for some odd reason?

You may have gotten some "bad" gas, maybe had some debris or
water/condensation in it. If you get gas right after the tanks have been
filled at the station, some debris will get stirred up in the underground
tanks and can cause the type of problems you were seeing. Add a bottle of
fuel additive/injector cleaner and see if that helps.
Pooh Bear - 17 Jun 2005 20:43 GMT
> > NO that's not it because my car has direct ignition no spark plug
> > wires.
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> tanks and can cause the type of problems you were seeing. Add a bottle of
> fuel additive/injector cleaner and see if that helps.

If there's been crap in the fuel, it might be worth replacing the fuel filter
too. That solved a similar problem on my previous vehicle.

Graham
Pooh Bear - 17 Jun 2005 20:41 GMT
> > > hi my 1990 9000 cd 2.0 turbo seems to miss a beat when it is raining
> > > out it feels as if the car just stops getting fuel air or spark for 1
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> the car is running good now for some odd reason?

Well... I just had some similar problems - see the thread 'is my di cassette
going?'

Last time it drove just fine again ( withing the limits of its other problems
).

The only common issue to the problem  was higher than average temps.

Graham
PAPAGENE4JACK - 17 Jun 2005 23:08 GMT
Check your air mass meter.  It will give you the same symtoms as a faulty
plug or wire and check engine light will not come on. anothe poss o2
sensor.   Good luck papa
Pooh Bear - 18 Jun 2005 06:59 GMT
> Check your air mass meter.  It will give you the same symtoms as a faulty
> plug or wire and check engine light will not come on. anothe poss o2
> sensor.   Good luck papa

Thanks for the tip.

Funnily enough that was one item ( amm ) I had in mind.

It's the Bosch unit. Hot wire sensor IIRC. Can it simply be cleaned (
carefully ) ?

Graham
Johannes - 18 Jun 2005 11:32 GMT
> > Check your air mass meter.  It will give you the same symtoms as a faulty
> > plug or wire and check engine light will not come on. anothe poss o2
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> It's the Bosch unit. Hot wire sensor IIRC. Can it simply be cleaned (
> carefully ) ?

It may just be the electrical contact in AMM socket. I've had this in the past,
it caused a lot of headache, but was simple to clean the socket. Try that
before splashing out on a new AMM.

Hope this will help your right turns :-)
 
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