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According to my brother who reads AutoNews, SAAB is trying to get GM to promote SAAB performance features and to build high-performance cars in Sweden. >According to my brother who reads AutoNews, SAAB is trying to get GM to >promote SAAB performance features and to build high-performance cars in >Sweden. If that's true, it's certainly a Good Thing. Craig.  SignatureCraig's Saab C900 Page --> http://lios.apana.org.au/~c900 Sydney, NSW Australia Craig's Saab C900 Workshop -- For all Saab C900 Enthusiasts world-wide! http://www.saab900classic.net http://www.saab900.org c900@lios.apana.org.au Come and explore our site, and check out our web-forums, mailing list, etc. > >According to my brother who reads AutoNews, SAAB is trying to get GM to > >promote SAAB performance features and to build high-performance cars in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Craig. Craig, Absolutely! Saab is going to try to follow some of their performance marketing from the 1980s I believe SaabGuy > According to my brother who reads AutoNews, SAAB is trying to get GM to > promote SAAB performance features and to build high-performance cars in > Sweden. Saab didn't need GM to do that ! Saab always built high performance motor cars in Sweden. GM simply want them to be made in Germany more cheaply in an Opel factory ! And also forget about their Swedish heritage. Graham > > According to my brother who reads AutoNews, SAAB is trying to get GM to > > promote SAAB performance features and to build high-performance cars in [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Graham Graham, Saab will have a specialized "Sweden Design Center" even though some Saabs will be built in Germany, don't worry. SaabGuy > Saab will have a specialized "Sweden Design Center" even though some Saabs > will be built in Germany, don't worry. So!? I don't want the guys that build the crap-no-good Opel cars, to build my Saab, so personally, my Saab days are over, once you cannot buy a Saab "Made-in-Sweden" anymore.... :o( Signature---------------------------------------------------------- Saab - Fordi livet er for kort til biler med dårlig sikkerhed! > > Saab will have a specialized "Sweden Design Center" even though some Saabs > > will be built in Germany, don't worry. > > So!? I don't want the guys that build the crap-no-good Opel cars, to build > my Saab, so personally, my Saab days are over, once you cannot buy a Saab > "Made-in-Sweden" anymore.... :o( So you are saying that the new Saab 9-3 Convertible is a bad car? SaabGuy >> So!? I don't want the guys that build the crap-no-good Opel cars, to >> build >> my Saab, so personally, my Saab days are over, once you cannot buy a Saab >> "Made-in-Sweden" anymore.... :o( >So you are saying that the new Saab 9-3 Convertible is a bad car? No, but it's also not build by Opel. Signature---------------------------------------------------------- Saab - Fordi livet er for kort til biler med dårlig sikkerhed! > > Saab will have a specialized "Sweden Design Center" even though some Saabs > > will be built in Germany, don't worry. > > So!? I don't want the guys that build the crap-no-good Opel cars, to build > my Saab, so personally, my Saab days are over, once you cannot buy a Saab > "Made-in-Sweden" anymore.... :o( Very sadly I will have to concur. The choice is made easier for me by the absence of any hatchback in the current range. I plan hopefully to find a nice '97 or '98 9000 Aero ideally or 2.3t and keep it as long as possible by maintaining it 'by the book'.. Graham >> I don't want the guys that build the crap-no-good Opel cars, to build >> my Saab, so personally, my Saab days are over, once you cannot buy a Saab >> "Made-in-Sweden" anymore.... :o( I can understand your sentiment, but don't forget, our beloved Björn Envall moved from SAAB to Opel ... and back again. Opel are not "the enemy"! :) Paul Var tog vägen vägen? SAAB : Nothing on earth comes close > >> I don't want the guys that build the crap-no-good Opel cars, to build > >> my Saab, so personally, my Saab days are over, once you cannot buy a Saab > >> "Made-in-Sweden" anymore.... :o( > > I can understand your sentiment, but don't forget, our beloved Björn Envall > moved from SAAB to Opel ... and back again. Opel are not "the enemy"! :) True enough that Opel are indeed capable of making perfectly servicable and pleasant cars. They're just not *Saabs* though ! Graham > True enough that Opel are indeed capable of making perfectly servicable > and > pleasant cars. > > They're just not *Saabs* though ! Hmmm..this begs the question...what makes a Saab a Saab? Is it how it's designed? Quirky, creative, outside-the-box, high performance design and engineering. Or is it because it's assembled by a crew of Swedes in Trollhattan? Would you have been any less pleased had your C900 rolled off an assembly line in Russelheim, Germany? Same exact car. And we'll assume, for the sake of argument, same build/assembly quality. In one aspect, your logical mind says "hmmm...same car, i should be just as pleased with it". The other portion of your mind illogically says "welll, i'm not so sure...i really like the idea Sven assembling my car as opposed to Wilhelm'. This is pretty much what it boils down to. - tex >> They're just not *Saabs* though ! > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > off an assembly line in Russelheim, Germany? Same exact car. And we'll > assume, for the sake of argument, same build/assembly quality. That's the problem: Opel doesn't build/assemble cars as well as Saab does - that's why. Signature---------------------------------------------------------- Saab - Fordi livet er for kort til biler med dårlig sikkerhed! > > > Saab will have a specialized "Sweden Design Center" even though some Saabs > > > will be built in Germany, don't worry. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Graham Graham, Saab says that they are bringing back the hatchback in 2008 though. SaabGuy >>>Saab will have a specialized "Sweden Design Center" even though some Saabs >>>will be built in Germany, don't worry. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Graham A 1997? These GM 'Saabs'. I bought a GM 'Saab' for my daughter to drive, knowing that in my area it is not a matter of 'if' a beginning driver is going to damage a car, but 'when'. I will not let a perfectly good Classic Saab (designed and built in Sweden) be destroyed in this manner. I drive the Classic turbo :-) >>>> Saab will have a specialized "Sweden Design Center" even though some >>>> Saabs [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > good Classic Saab (designed and built in Sweden) be destroyed in this > manner. I drive the Classic turbo :-) The 9000 is a pre-GM car, developed in cooperation with Fiat and Alfa Romeo, well before GM got any influence over Saab. Even the CS model I would claim to be a true Saab, although it was produced when GM owned 50% of Saab. Signatureth > According to my brother who reads AutoNews, SAAB is trying to get GM to > promote SAAB performance features and to build high-performance cars in > Sweden. Dan, That is good because SAAB Sweden indicated that they will begin to promote this as they mentioned it at the SAAB Festival in Sweden a week ago. SaabGuy |
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