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Car Forum / Saab Cars / July 2005

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`94 9000 CSE Alternator/AC belt

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Levi - 13 Jul 2005 19:39 GMT
I bought a 1994 CSE in May.  It's the 2.6 Liter engine, normally aspirated,
and has the R-134 based air conditoning system.  

My mechanic  (an independent Saab specialist) noticed that the serpentine
belt was shredded and about to slip off.  He recommended replacing the
tensioner because in his experience that was that was normally the cause.
In the process, he discovered that the tensioner had been replaced once
already and that the A/C compressor was bad.  He replaced the tensioner
and belt, plus he gave me a compressor that he had lying around the shop.

Because it was too cool to charge the A/C properly, he left it unplugged
and I also programmed the control unit to always come on in ECON mode so
as not to try to engage the A/C.

On his recommendation, I watched the belt for a week or two, and didn't
notice any problems.

I finally couldn't "take the heat" and went back to complete the A/C charge.  
My mech immediately noticed that the belt was once again about to come off.  
He is pretty much mystified, and can only offer that a new compressor "might",
stress "might" solve the problem.  Besides the $750 for a new compressor, it
turns out that there are none available in the U.S. for another few weeks.

Anyone have experience with this problem?
Pooh Bear - 13 Jul 2005 20:22 GMT
> I bought a 1994 CSE in May.  It's the 2.6 Liter engine,

Not possible. No such engine. 2.0 or 2.3 litre only.

Graham
Walt Kienzle - 14 Jul 2005 01:31 GMT
>> I bought a 1994 CSE in May.  It's the 2.6 Liter engine,
>
> Not possible. No such engine. 2.0 or 2.3 litre only.
>
> Graham

And since the OP is from the US, 2.0 L is not a possibility in a 9000 of
that vintage either.  The only 4-cyl. is the 2.3 from about 1991 on.
Pooh Bear - 13 Jul 2005 20:26 GMT
> I bought a 1994 CSE in May.  It's the 2.6 Liter engine, normally aspirated,
> and has the R-134 based air conditoning system.
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> and I also programmed the control unit to always come on in ECON mode so
> as not to try to engage the A/C.

I think that involves pressing the econ button !

> On his recommendation, I watched the belt for a week or two, and didn't
> notice any problems.
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>
> Anyone have experience with this problem?

No, but a rough guess would be that the belt isn't running 'true'. Possibly a
damaged / twisted pulley wheel ?

Graham
Levi - 13 Jul 2005 21:02 GMT
>  
>  > I bought a 1994 CSE in May.  It's the 2.6 Liter engine, normally,
                                          ^^^ 2.3
>  > aspirated and has the R-134 based air conditoning system.
>  >
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>  
>  I think that involves pressing the econ button !

<grin> Sure...but you can set the control unit to do it for you.

>  
>  
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>  No, but a rough guess would be that the belt isn't running 'true'.
>  Possibly a damaged / twisted pulley wheel ?

Since a pulley comes attached with the compressor, we tend to discount
that problem at the compressor pulley.  Other pulleys?  Maybe. I can't think
of any way to check, either.
Pooh Bear - 14 Jul 2005 00:17 GMT
> >  > I bought a 1994 CSE in May.  It's the 2.6 Liter engine, normally,
>                                            ^^^ 2.3
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> that problem at the compressor pulley.  Other pulleys?  Maybe. I can't think
> of any way to check, either.

There's quite a few pulleys on the 2.3 engine serpentine belt IIRC.

Graham
Malcolm William Mason - 14 Jul 2005 08:12 GMT
>> Because it was too cool to charge the A/C properly, he left it unplugged
>> and I also programmed the control unit to always come on in ECON mode so
>> as not to try to engage the A/C.
>
>I think that involves pressing the econ button !
I am not quite sure what you are saying about the "Econ" button but it
is supposed to shut off the compressor while you remain in the "Cooling"
mode to let you get controlled comfort using only cold outside aide.Do
not put the system on re-circulate.

And what is this about too cool to change the a/c ?

Does this guy have any idea of what he is doing?

Malcolm
Pooh Bear - 14 Jul 2005 09:00 GMT
> >> Because it was too cool to charge the A/C properly, he left it unplugged
> >> and I also programmed the control unit to always come on in ECON mode so
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> mode to let you get controlled comfort using only cold outside aide.Do
> not put the system on re-circulate.

It seems you understand. Never mind.

> And what is this about too cool to change the a/c ?

That puzzled me. Never heard of such a thing but I've not yet needed my a/c
recharging. Maybe his engineer is stringing him along ?

> Does this guy have any idea of what he is doing?

Your guess ?

Graham
Laura K - 13 Jul 2005 23:11 GMT
> I finally couldn't "take the heat" and went back to complete the A/C
> charge.  My mech immediately noticed that the belt was once again about
> to come off.  He is pretty much mystified, and can only offer that a new
> compressor "might", stress "might" solve the problem.  Besides the $750
> for a new compressor, it turns out that there are none available in the
> U.S. for another few weeks.

Check all the pulleys and spindles to make sure they're true.
Also have him check the alternator. I had a Fiesta that was eating belts.
Turned out it was an alternator on its way out. There was no other sign of a
problem other than belts disintegrating.
Pooh Bear - 14 Jul 2005 00:18 GMT
> > I finally couldn't "take the heat" and went back to complete the A/C
> > charge.  My mech immediately noticed that the belt was once again about
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> Turned out it was an alternator on its way out. There was no other sign of a
> problem other than belts disintegrating.

That's an intruiging scenario.

Any idea how the alternator was doing that to the belt ?

Graham
Laura K - 14 Jul 2005 02:51 GMT
> That's an intruiging scenario.
>
> Any idea how the alternator was doing that to the belt ?

From what I understood -- which wasn't much because my mechanic was Korean
and would start swearing at me whenever I brought the Fiesta in for repair
which is understandable if you've ever tried to work in the motor compartment
of a 1980s Fiesta -- the alternator spindle/pulley would slow down/seize up
or otherwise put friction on the belt.
They replaced three belts in three weeks before figuring this out. After
replacing the alternator, everything was fine.
 
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