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Car Forum / Saab Cars / July 20059000 Questions Re posted
Hi Folks, well We didn't get a 93 or a 95, we plumped for a 9000 Anniversary. Corking condition, with all the right history and low mileage (82K) Now some technical stuff:- Is it possible to retrofit a cruise control kit, my mechanic says yes, and it's not too difficult as the last of the 9000's had a simpler system. If so where could I get a kit? It has a Saab radio, and separate single disc player, can a changer be fitted? I assume it's a saab only job? Power upgrades, i.e. ecu upgrade from Abbot, speedparts or otherwise, do they really make a difference and how hard do they hit the mpg? I had a computer in my dash on my FPT 9000, where there is an analogue clock now. It just gave distance to destination, av speed est time of arrival. It was a bit of a toy, but if I could find one in a scrappies, could I fit it? I assume it needs power/earth and a speed sensor? Enough for now more later Cheers Al > Hi Folks, > well We didn't get a 93 or a 95, we plumped for a 9000 Anniversary. Corking [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > it's not too difficult as the last of the 9000's had a simpler system. If > so where could I get a kit? SAAB. A while back (6 years or so) I was told the kit was circa 300GBP. > It has a Saab radio, and separate single disc player, can a changer be > fitted? I assume it's a saab only job? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Al Sorry can't help with other Questions. Regards Charles  SignaturePlease remove _removeme_ to reply. Work: http://www.somis.dundee.ac.uk/ Hobby: http://www.egothor.org/ > Hi Folks, > well We didn't get a 93 or a 95, we plumped for a 9000 Anniversary. Corking > condition, with all the right history and low mileage (82K) Hi Al, I have an Anniversary 9000 too - wonderful car. > Now some technical stuff:- > > Is it possible to retrofit a cruise control kit, my mechanic says yes, and > it's not too difficult as the last of the 9000's had a simpler system. If > so where could I get a kit? I believe it's a very easy addition and will do it myself when I can. Just 3 parts to fit - sensor on the brake pedal (an extra one on the clutch if it's manual transmission?), a different indicator stalk, and a motor unit under the bonnet/hood that attaches near the battery and connects to the throttle. The wiring should all be there. I've not done this myself yet though so bear this in mind. You can get a new kit from Saab (in the UK they are around 250-300) or find one from a breakers or ebay. If you get a used one it needs to be post 1995 I think as this is when Saab changed from a vacuum cruise system. > It has a Saab radio, and separate single disc player, can a changer be > fitted? I assume it's a saab only job? I have a feeling that I've read about there being a Y connector on the cable behind the units that allows both the single disc and multidisc players to be attached at the same time. Again, I've not tried this and don't know how switching would work. > Power upgrades, i.e. ecu upgrade from Abbot, speedparts or otherwise, do > they really make a difference and how hard do they hit the mpg? No idea I'm afraid though if you've got the 2.3 T I'd like to know how much more power you really want! > I had a computer in my dash on my FPT 9000, where there is an analogue clock > now. It just gave distance to destination, av speed est time of arrival. > It was a bit of a toy, but if I could find one in a scrappies, could I fit > it? I assume it needs power/earth and a speed sensor? Isn't the display in the dash different on cars with the computer? > Enough for now more later Enjoy your new family addition! Piers > Cheers > > Al > Hi Folks, > well We didn't get a 93 or a 95, we plumped for a 9000 Anniversary. Corking > condition, with all the right history and low mileage (82K) Wonderful car. I wish I hadn't broken mine last year (still, the Aero is a nice, if unplanned, replacement) > It has a Saab radio, and separate single disc player, can a changer be > fitted? I assume it's a saab only job? You can probably fit a changer, take the radio out and have a look to see if it has an interface. an alternative, though, is a CD/MP3 player. You can get as many MP3s on a single disk as you can fit into a changer using normal audio CDs. I just bought a new head unit with aux-input to run my car computer through. It does MP3 Cds too and only cost about £100. You could probably recoup some of the cost selling the original CD player on Ebay. cheers E > I just bought a new head unit with aux-input to run my car computer > through. It does MP3 Cds too and only cost about £100. You could > probably recoup some of the cost selling the original CD player on Ebay. Interesting. So what have you done regarding a screen for the CarPC? I have the hardware now, and had starting making a moulded in screen for the carpc for my celica. But I'm planning on coming back to Saabs and can't decide between a GM900 and a later 9000 (I would prefer 9000 but missus says they are too big). Don't know whether to go with a moulded in screen or a motorised popout VGA. SignatureCarl Robson Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com >>I just bought a new head unit with aux-input to run my car computer >>through. It does MP3 Cds too and only cost about £100. You could [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > missus says they are too big). Don't know whether to go with a moulded > in screen or a motorised popout VGA. I've got a non-motorised pop-out touchscreen.It was more expensive but it goes into one of the din slots without cutting so when I change the car it can easily come with me and the dash isn't ripped to bits. >>>I just bought a new head unit with aux-input to run my car computer >>>through. It does MP3 Cds too and only cost about £100. You could probably [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > goes into one of the din slots without cutting so when I change the car it > can easily come with me and the dash isn't ripped to bits. I would definitely go with the pop out screen, looks neater by a long way. 9000 too big? Again a late 9000 over a NG900 would be my choice too. Al >I would definitely go with the pop out screen, looks neater by a long way. > >9000 too big? Again a late 9000 over a NG900 would be my choice too. TBH, a C900 FPT convertable with Aero kit would be my choice. The 9000 FPT (CSE/Anni/Aero) "is" the compromise. But Women, what can you do. SignatureCarl Robson Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com >> I would definitely go with the pop out screen, looks neater by a long way. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The 9000 FPT (CSE/Anni/Aero) "is" the compromise. > But Women, what can you do. You can tell 'em what's what and get on with it :) .... Or not :)) Does she drive? If she does, then your choice of car will of course be affected by that. If not, then give her the best you can for the money you have. The right 9000 Anni/Aero would make for a very comfortable, "posh" and plush car. My Debo begs for us to drive the C900 on long journeys - she says it's the most comfortable car she's ever been in. I do find that a little difficult to believe, since my Orca is lowered and has hard suspension and wheelie-pulling torque, but she finds it a sleeper on long journeys! I've only ever been in the passenger seat (or rear seats) when I've been to p*ssed to drive and in that state, it's pretty *uncomfortable* - apart from opening the rear window and listening to the exhaust :) My Mum raves on about SAAB seats; so much so, I almost bought them the interior from a 9000 off e-Bay, but they bought a Daimler around the same time which is the most comfortable car *I've* ever been in. It seems both an obvious choice and a very difficult choice to make - the 9000 is the right car. I'm sure of that. You love it ... Just get the right one to make a believer of your good lady. What about the CD model? I fancy the longer boot makes for a more conventional looking car. Just my "couple of coppers" :) Paul Vart tog vägen vägen? SAAB : Nothing on earth comes close [...] > It seems both an obvious choice and a very difficult choice to make - the > 9000 is the right car. I'm sure of that. You love it ... Just get the right > one to make a believer of your good lady. What about the CD model? I fancy > the longer boot makes for a more conventional looking car. Just my "couple > of coppers" :) CS is better looking than the CD; the boot on the CD looks like glued on. Hence CS is also more valuable on the secondhand market. But if you like the CD, you might find a bargain. It's also worth noting that all turbo models drive well, you might have fewer problems with an LPT than an Aero. >CS is better looking than the CD; the boot on the CD looks like glued on. >Hence CS is also more valuable on the secondhand market. But if you like >the CD, you might find a bargain. It's also worth noting that all turbo >models drive well, you might have fewer problems with an LPT than an Aero. I'm wondering if I could get her into a CS, and give her chance to try to laydown in the boot (it worked with the 900) she might give it a chance. Which ever one I go for, I want an FPT. Or if I'm going to convert later, at least a 2.3 LPT because the FPT ECU plugs in straight away, post 95 they have the IC already, and you only need to sort an APC solenoid and hoses. SignatureCarl Robson Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com > [...] > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the CD, you might find a bargain. It's also worth noting that all turbo > models drive well, you might have fewer problems with an LPT than an Aero. I agree that the 9000 CS is better looking than the CD. Maybe that's one reason there seem to be very few CDs in the UK ? Graham >Does she drive? If she does, then your choice of car will of course be >affected by that. If not, then give her the best you can for the money you >have. The right 9000 Anni/Aero would make for a very comfortable, "posh" and >plush car. Yes she drives. But she started with her mums K10 Micra. Then she bought her own 1.1 Metro, then she had a 1.2 Corsa Breeze, now she has a 1.4 Skoda Fabia (with my assistance). Slowly but surely her cars and engines are getting bigger. But she mush prefers small newish cars than long flat older ones. She even said the C900 was very square. >My Debo begs for us to drive the C900 on long journeys - she says it's the >most comfortable car she's ever been in. I do find that a little difficult [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >p*ssed to drive and in that state, it's pretty *uncomfortable* - apart from >opening the rear window and listening to the exhaust :) Alison drove mine once, when I sliced my hand open. Didn't like it. Said it was too big to manouvre anywhere. And even with the early seats swung up on their highest setting (the old cam ones not the 9000 like ones) the seat was too high and the steering wheel was too big. >My Mum raves on about SAAB seats; so much so, I almost bought them the >interior from a 9000 off e-Bay, but they bought a Daimler around the same >time which is the most comfortable car *I've* ever been in. I would love to turn a full set of 9000 seats in leather into a 3 piece suite. Anniversary if possible, then I could get the electric adjust. Just need a frame and a couple of spare arm rests to make the rears into a Sofa. Could do a couple of extra on taller bases for the computer room too. >It seems both an obvious choice and a very difficult choice to make - the >9000 is the right car. I'm sure of that. You love it ... Just get the right >one to make a believer of your good lady. What about the CD model? I fancy >the longer boot makes for a more conventional looking car. Just my "couple >of coppers" :) It was a CD we had a a courtesy loaner, the only thing she really liked was the heated seats, once she had gotten over the idea that she hadn't pissed herself. SignatureCarl Robson Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com > Alison drove mine once, when I sliced my hand open. Didn't like it. Said > it was too big to manouvre anywhere. And even with the early seats swung > up on their highest setting (the old cam ones not the 9000 like ones) > the seat was too high and the steering wheel was too big. Odd. My reaction when I got a 9000 was how small it drove. Of course, I was coming from a Lincoln Mark VIII, so these things are relative. I liked the LPT in my 9000 better than the full turbo in the 900 I've got now. The LPT has much better low end torque, no turbo lag. It was well matched to the car. I had hoped to get another 9000 when the fool ran into mine, but couldn't find an affordable one. The 900 (1997 SE Talladega) actually feels bigger on the inside than the 9000. Not sure sure why. Headroom and footroom is the same, according to Edmunds and it's 3 inches narrower. >Odd. My reaction when I got a 9000 was how small it drove. Of course, I was >coming from a Lincoln Mark VIII, so these things are relative. In the UK, the average sized small hatchback if 1/2 if not a 1/3rd the size of a CS or CD9000. that is the size of car she likes. I noticed, because of the size of the bumper and the huge load area, even though it was average family car size inside, outside was only about 4" shorter than a 7 series BMW, or a Large Merc. A Saab C900/9000/9-5 comes into the size of an executive saloon/Sedan, the GM900/9-3/new9-3 comes in as a average family car. Nothing Saab market in the uk would be considered small, or compact by a non-Saab owner. SignatureCarl Robson Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com > >Odd. My reaction when I got a 9000 was how small it drove. Of course, I was > >coming from a Lincoln Mark VIII, so these things are relative. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > market in the uk would be considered small, or compact by a non-Saab > owner. If you check ( say using Parkers ) the difference in size between models is actually quite small. A 9000CS is 15'2" x 5'10". The new 9-3 is identical ! Even the 9-5 is only 15'9" x 5'11" Classic 900 15'7" x 5'7" GM 900/early 9-3 15'3 x 5'7" So the 9000CS is the shortest Saab of recent models. Despite its looks. I agree with Laura that the 9000 drives 'much smaller' than it looks. It's pleasantly nimble. Graham > If you check ( say using Parkers ) the difference in size between models is > actually quite small. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I agree with Laura that the 9000 drives 'much smaller' than it looks. It's > pleasantly nimble. Thank you. Definitive measurements I can convince her with. Or at least try. Although she wil still use that particular brand of physics, "Because she says so" that women do so well. SignatureCarl Robson Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com > > If you check ( say using Parkers ) the difference in size between models is > > actually quite small. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Or at least try. Although she wil still use that particular brand of > physics, "Because she says so" that women do so well. Tell you what.... Check out the colours. I just recently got a newer 9000. It's in the metallic 'Citrin Beige'. Never seen that many of them and I like the colour too ( very similar to my previous Vauxhall actually ). My friend Peggy just saw it. She was totally gobsmacked. In comparison, the older one in Le Mans blue left her totally cold. Graham > > > If you check ( say using Parkers ) the difference in size between models is > > > actually quite small. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Graham The colour of my 9000CSE is one of the nicest around IMHO; it's eucalyptus metallic green. It's brighter than the scarabe green and gives the car a lighter look than heavier darker colours. However, the colour depends strongly on model year. The eucalyptus green was only seen around 92-93. > The colour of my 9000CSE is one of the nicest around IMHO; it's eucalyptus > metallic green. It's brighter than the scarabe green and gives the car a > lighter look than heavier darker colours. However, the colour depends > strongly on model year. The eucalyptus green was only seen around 92-93. Much prefer the Scarabe. Even that might get me some brownie points. Her Fabia is Skoda Metallic Nature green. Very dark deep metallic green. They would almost match. Although I've always been superstitious of green cars. SignatureCarl Robson Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com Salutations: >> The colour of my 9000CSE is one of the nicest around IMHO; it's >> eucalyptus [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > They would almost match. Although I've always been superstitious of > green cars. Actually - I still maintain that Black on Black Recarro remains *the one* for the 9000. Here in North American all the dealers kitted the early Aero's with stick-on faux-wood paneling - which I will probably be removing when I next open up the dash actually. Personally, I wouldn't mind a wood shifter - but that would be it. Anyway - I pitched the Black on Black here as being 'The Chanel Cocktail Dress' of automobilia.. Classic, timeless lines, that looks as good and up to date as anything you'll park it next to anywhere. She looks fab pulling up in it too - the perfect accessory for the stylish non-metallic lady in your life. -- Radio Free Dexterdyne Top Tune o'be-do-da-day Louis Prima - Angelina Zooma Zooma Zooma Live http://www.dexterdyne.org/888/159.RAM all tunes - no cookies no subscription no weather no ads no news no phone in no sign up required - all the Time > Anyway - I pitched the Black on Black here as being 'The Chanel Cocktail > Dress' of automobilia.. Classic, timeless lines, that looks as good and up > to date as anything you'll park it next to anywhere. My thoughts exactley, especially if it came with the dark grey rather than silver Aero 3 spokes. SignatureCarl Robson Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com > > > > If you check ( say using Parkers ) the difference in size between models is > > > > actually quite small. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > lighter look than heavier darker colours. However, the colour depends > strongly on model year. The eucalyptus green was only seen around 92-93. I'm fond of the eucalyptus green too. Again, you don't see them that often. It's listed in the '94 model year brochure I have btw. Does anyone recall the rather unusual 'rose' colour that was available on early 9000s ? I've seen one or two. Graham > I just recently got a newer 9000. It's in the metallic 'Citrin Beige'. Never seen > that many of them and I like the colour too ( very similar to my previous > Vauxhall actually ). My friend Peggy just saw it. She was totally gobsmacked. In > comparison, the older one in Le Mans blue left her totally cold. She hates "gold" cars. Even if they are closer to a Champagne colour than a real bright gold. She is OK, with silver (we have both had silver cars), but I'm not so keen any more. I do rather like the Aubergine colour that Saab used (so purple it is nearly black) on some 9000 and GM900s. And she loves anything in purple. SignatureCarl Robson Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com > > I just recently got a newer 9000. It's in the metallic 'Citrin Beige'. Never seen > > that many of them and I like the colour too ( very similar to my previous [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > She hates "gold" cars. Even if they are closer to a Champagne colour > than a real bright gold. Oh well... bin that idea ! > She is OK, with silver (we have both had silver cars), but I'm not so > keen any more. > I do rather like the Aubergine colour that Saab used (so purple it is > nearly black) on some 9000 and GM900s. And she loves anything in purple. Ah yes, that colour looks very interesting. Very rare again though. Btw - in the Uk apparently the 3 most 'popular' colours are solid blue, white and red. Probably the most boring colours you could imagine IMHO. Incidentally, on a prcatical front, the 9000 in beige doesn't seem to get so hot standing in the sun as the older one in blue. Admittedly it has 'solar ? glass' which the older one doesn't. The paler dash trim seems to stay cooler too. The ACC is *great*. Graham On the 9000CSE's I my favrorite color is white (cirrus white, if I'm not mistaken). That's what my 9000 is and with the black trim it looks damn _sexy_ Black might be good too... Not too keen on actual colors other than black and white :-p So far I've had a silver 9000s (meh, alirght... seemed most 80s 9ks were silver), and a white NG900V6, my parents have a 9-3 in black. I don't think white looks as good on the 9-3 and 9-5s, but on the 9kCS's its down right beautiful! (maybe its because I detail the crap out of it!) My 2cents -Chris 1994 Saab 9000CSE Turbo 2001 Saab 9-3SE (parent's) 1994 Saab 900SE V6 (*RIP*) 1987 Saab 9000S (*RIP*) >>>I just recently got a newer 9000. It's in the metallic 'Citrin Beige'. Never seen >>>that many of them and I like the colour too ( very similar to my previous [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Graham > So far I've had a silver 9000s (meh, alirght... seemed most 80s 9ks were > silver), and a white NG900V6, my parents have a 9-3 in black. I don't > think white looks as good on the 9-3 and 9-5s, but on the 9kCS's its > down right beautiful! (maybe its because I detail the crap out of it!) > My 2cents My C900 T16S was silver. Always cleaned up nice, even though the paint was less than perfect. Saw a dirty but beautiful FPT 9000CSE at the weekend (black with black leather. Very nice even though it filthy. Looked evil. Problem I have with white is the tiny scratches that the last owner didn't polish out (or polished in) fill with dirt, and nver really come clean. Can ruin an otherwise perfect car. SignatureCarl Robson Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com >I've got a non-motorised pop-out touchscreen.It was more expensive but >it goes into one of the din slots without cutting so when I change the >car it can easily come with me and the dash isn't ripped to bits. Given my choice now, http://www.cartft.com/catalog/il/506 would be the one I would go for. Things in the CarPC world have certainly moved on since I first started dabbling with Car PCs. My first thoughts of a CarPC system lead me to find that people were using 2 line LCD and VFD displays, running Dos or stripped down linux. All it played was MP3's When I first actually built a system, 3 years ago, I had to use a composite game screen as small VGA models were too small. I later refined that to use a 10.4" desktop screen with a touchscreen added, and a butchered/widened centre console in my 900. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com/imagery/carpc/screen1.jpg http://www.bouncing-czechs.com/imagery/carpc/screen2.jpg That was less than reliable, and in the end I went with putting the car back to standard. When I bought the Celica, I planned an install in there again, but 7" screens had come down in price, so I was able to start designing the screen to replace the total double din + cupholders section. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com/imagery/ST185/screen1.jpg http://www.bouncing-czechs.com/imagery/ST185/screen3.jpg the plan was to have the whole radio area taken up by the screen and the tuner to come from a PCI tuner card in the small case I planned. However, with those small indash screen coming down to sub £400, and a half decent Nakamichi cassette tuner (who needs CD with a CarPC) with AUX input coming in at arround £300, I could easily go that route, play CD/MP3 from the PC using the slot DVD drive I have for CDs and the HDD for the MP3s, and have the Navigation using a small seperate speaker near the headrest on a seperate channel (maybe even bluetooth), so I could listen to traffic reports, while GPS gives me directions. Excellent. SignatureCarl Robson Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com |
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