''middle blue'', only 1970 - 1972. so the car must be 1970 or 1971

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'72 97 '77 96 '78 95 '79 96
'91 900i
MH,
Excellent and thanks!
So could you show me a grill to compare to in 1972 that has "rubber stops"? I'm not sure what that is compared to this one.
> This grille was a first in 1969
> 1972 had all rubber bumper stops
>
> > Headlamps must narrow down the year?
> Round sealed beam for US market
This car was in the U.S. at the time of the photo, and bought here, yep.
> > What about the color?
> ''middle blue'', only 1970 - 1972. so the car must be 1970 or 1971
This color is called "middle blue"? Interesting, I was thinking "cloud" or something cool!
So it must be 1970 or 71 huh?
MH - 02 Aug 2005 12:22 GMT
> Excellent and thanks! So could you show me a grill to compare to in
> 1972 that has "rubber stops"? I'm not sure what that is compared to
> this one.
These are like your pic, with rubber inserts in the bumper 'horns' but
with European H4 headlights
http://home.hetnet.nl/~Saab96V4/images/69.jpg
http://home.hetnet.nl/~Saab96V4/images/71.jpg
These have all rubber 'horns'
http://home.hetnet.nl/~Saab96V4/images/70.jpg
and a later grille (1974+)
http://home.hetnet.nl/~Saab96V4/images/66.jpg
This is the 1978+ front (rubber bumper, large turn indicators)
http://home.hetnet.nl/~Saab96V4/images/64.jpg

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MH
'72 97 '77 96 '78 95 '79 96
'91 900i
Saab Guy - 02 Aug 2005 12:42 GMT
MH,
So it's either a 1970 or 1971.
I wonder how I can tell the difference?
SaabGuy
> > Excellent and thanks! So could you show me a grill to compare to in
> > 1972 that has "rubber stops"? I'm not sure what that is compared to
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> This is the 1978+ front (rubber bumper, large turn indicators)
> http://home.hetnet.nl/~Saab96V4/images/64.jpg
saabyurk - 02 Aug 2005 12:47 GMT
Saab Guy
How many strips did the 71 have on the side? I don't have a 71
brochure, but the 70s all seemed to have two chrome strips.
Saab Guy - 02 Aug 2005 12:56 GMT
> Saab Guy
> How many strips did the 71 have on the side? I don't have a 71
> brochure, but the 70s all seemed to have two chrome strips.
Saabyurk,
All I have is that one photo, if you look closely, it looks like 1 big strip, can you see it?
I am going to google for 1971 Saab 96s to see what they look like on the side.
SaabGuy
Dave Hinz - 02 Aug 2005 15:42 GMT
> Saab Guy
> How many strips did the 71 have on the side? I don't have a 71
> brochure, but the 70s all seemed to have two chrome strips.
This one looks like it has the black rubber cap on the rear fender at
the stripe, and probably the rubber and SAAB logo on the bottom of the
front fenders...71, then?
Saab Guy - 02 Aug 2005 15:51 GMT
> > Saab Guy
> > How many strips did the 71 have on the side? I don't have a 71
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> the stripe, and probably the rubber and SAAB logo on the bottom of the
> front fenders...71, then?
Dave,
I asked my Father who owned it, just in case because he originally said he did not know so before I gave him clues that it was either a 1970 or 1971, I just asked him if it was a 1969-1974, and he said it was a 1971 so that confirms it. :)
Now if I can get the VIN from my Father and somehow track that thing down, probably 99 out of 100 it's been in a scrap yard for the last 10-15 years, or crushed and turned into a Toyota or Washing Machine by now, but it would be cool if it was "together" and "somewhere"!
Can't I just contact the DMV to see? Do they have records that go back that long?
I'll ask my Father to check his records to see if he might have the VIN somewhere.
Thank you.
- Ryan
MH - 02 Aug 2005 19:39 GMT
> Now if I can get the VIN from my Father and somehow track that thing
> down, probably 99 out of 100 it's been in a scrap yard for the last
> 10-15 years, or crushed and turned into a Toyota or Washing Machine
> by now, but it would be cool if it was "together" and "somewhere"!
Subscribe to the mailing lists at http://www.vsaab.com and
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/vSAAB/
and ask. Maybe somebody knows about the car.

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'72 97 '77 96 '78 95 '79 96
'91 900i
MH - 02 Aug 2005 19:56 GMT
>How many strips did the 71 have on the side? I don't have a 71
>brochure, but the 70s all seemed to have two chrome strips.
Up to 1970 they had one short trim strip over the wheel openings.
http://saab.abto.bg/the-saab-way/story/picz/42_2.jpg
In 1971 this was changed to one strip low on the side, extending to a
SAAB badge on the fender
http://saab.abto.bg/the-saab-way/story/picz/46_1.jpg
1971 was also the first year of the 1700 cc engine for the US market (vs
earlier 1500 cc, and still for the rest of the world, up to 1980)
Looks like your dad's old car was of model year 1971, that means it was
actually built between August 1970 and July 1971

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'72 97 '77 96 '78 95 '79 96
'91 900i
Dave Hinz - 02 Aug 2005 20:06 GMT
>>How many strips did the 71 have on the side? I don't have a 71
>>brochure, but the 70s all seemed to have two chrome strips.
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> SAAB badge on the fender
> http://saab.abto.bg/the-saab-way/story/picz/46_1.jpg
Right, which is what I think I see on that one?
Saab Guy - 02 Aug 2005 20:53 GMT
> >How many strips did the 71 have on the side? I don't have a 71
> >brochure, but the 70s all seemed to have two chrome strips.
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> Looks like your dad's old car was of model year 1971, that means it was
> actually built between August 1970 and July 1971
MH,
Thank you, I wonder if I could get the VIN from the DMV and some history on it?
That is of course, if I cannot obtain the VIN otherwise (which presumably I cannot)
SaabGuy
MH - 02 Aug 2005 12:57 GMT
> So it's either a 1970 or 1971.
> I wonder how I can tell the difference?
By checking the VIN:
1970:
Swedish: 96 560 001 - 96 592 844
Finnish: 60 60 0001 - 60 60 1540
1971:
Swedish: 96 60 0001 - 96 627 413
Finnish: 61 60 0001 - 61 60 2639
From 1972 on the VIN was like this:
96 72 20 00001 - 96 72 20 21567
where
type:- 95/96/97...
year: 72 - 80
production line:
Trollhättan, Sweden = 20
Uusikaupunki, Finland = 60
Arlöv, Sweden (for Sonett) = 50
car serial number
See also "The Saab Way": http://saab.abto.bg/the-saab-way/story/story.htm

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'91 900i
Saab Guy - 02 Aug 2005 13:09 GMT
MH,
We don't own the car any longer, we apparently sold it back in the early eightees. I believe that's the last photo we had of it.
Thanks for the info, I wish I could get the VIN to perhaps track where it went.
- Ryan
> > So it's either a 1970 or 1971.
> > I wonder how I can tell the difference?
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>
> See also "The Saab Way": http://saab.abto.bg/the-saab-way/story/story.htm
saabyurk - 02 Aug 2005 12:41 GMT
Saab Guy
Here's a 72 brochure front page showing the rubber bumper stops:
http://gtyurkon.com/SaabVintage/jpg/Brochures/72p01.jpg