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Car Forum / Saab Cars / December 2005

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new 9-5 epsilon 2???

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Tex - 30 Aug 2005 16:02 GMT
They must have this wrong...

 http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103086

It's actually simply a revamp on this existing platform.  And an ugly one at
that.  The 9-5 always had an elegant timeless style.  It didn't need a major
new and radical nose job.   Mostly just the interior needed to be updated.
Too bad...since the designers did great work on the 9-3 combi, but really
blew this one.

- tex
SmaartAasSaabr - 02 Sep 2005 01:18 GMT
Yeah the front end treatment doesn't do anything for me.

I really liked the 2005 9-5 front/rear but the 2006 is a downgrade in
my opinion.
harrie van Dijk - 22 Nov 2005 02:24 GMT
no they did not get it wrong. the platform is indeed borrowed from the
epsilon totally in Line with the SAAB traditions, cause mind you over the
years SAAB designed only 2 platforms: the 99 and the 9000 together with the
italo's of lancia and fiat. all the other types are little more than new
bodywork on the same platform! the classic 900 is a 99 platform with new
bodywork. the 9000 stands alone but the rest uncluding the 9-5 are just 9000
platforms with different bodywork

if you own multiple saabtype and are you own mechanic like myself you
quickly learn that a lot of parts are interchangeblefor instance the biggest
difference between a 99 and a 900 C is the length of the driveshafts. in the
900 they are longer cause the bodywork and the wheels are broader than in a
99

same goes for SAAB-powerplants: after the twostroke era ended in
1963/1964saab used the ford  V4  to finish the 96 series and for the
brandnew 99 they developed the fourcylinder in line engine that SAAB still
uses today in all its petrol driven cars. My 9-5 has the same engine only
with lots of electronic gadgets to meet environeent demands. the basic
engine however is still the same.

if one of my 99 engines brakes down and I can not get a good 99 engine I
simply use a 900C engine that fits after exchanging the driveshafts for 99
driveshafts. I even have a 1979 99 fitted with a 900 turbo engine that fits
like a glove in the 99.too bad I don't own one of the originals 99turbo's
since they are worth a fortune today!

Harrie

Netherlands

> They must have this wrong...
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MH - 22 Nov 2005 10:01 GMT
> same goes for SAAB-powerplants: after the twostroke era ended in 1963/1964

Model year 1967 (august 1966 - juli 1967)

> for the brandnew 99 ...
they first used a 96 body, cut it in half lengthwise and widened it 20 cm...
(see "Paddan")

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Dave Hinz - 22 Nov 2005 13:05 GMT
> no they did not get it wrong. the platform is indeed borrowed from the
> epsilon totally in Line with the SAAB traditions, cause mind you over the
> years SAAB designed only 2 platforms: the 99 and the 9000

Not to mention the 92/93/95/96 platform.  Each of which, literally,
was a redesign of _either_ the front, or the back, half a car at a time.

> same goes for SAAB-powerplants: after the twostroke era ended in
> 1963/1964

1967.

> saab used the ford  V4  to finish the 96 series and for the
> brandnew 99 they developed the fourcylinder in line engine that SAAB still
> uses today in all its petrol driven cars.

Not really, it was basically a Triumph engine for the first several
years.

> My 9-5 has the same engine only
> with lots of electronic gadgets to meet environeent demands. the basic
> engine however is still the same.

I'd love to agree with you, but I don't even think it's the same block
as an H-engine, let alone a B-engine or the Triumph engine.

> if one of my 99 engines brakes down and I can not get a good 99 engine I
> simply use a 900C engine that fits after exchanging the driveshafts for 99
> driveshafts. I even have a 1979 99 fitted with a 900 turbo engine that fits
> like a glove in the 99.too bad I don't own one of the originals 99turbo's
> since they are worth a fortune today!

I have one, would you like to buy it?

> Netherlands

Ah...shipping would be a problem.
Henrik B. - 21 Dec 2005 01:44 GMT
> bodywork. the 9000 stands alone but the rest including the 9-5 are just
> 9000 platforms with different bodywork

Eeeh, no they're not! The 9000 platform is....the 9000 platform. The
NG900/9-3 is based on the Opel/Vauxhall Vectra A. The 9-5 is based on the
Opel/Vauxhall Vectra B. The 9-3SS is based on the Opel/Vectra C (Epsilon I)
platform.

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