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Car Forum / Saab Cars / September 2005

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Calibrating Turbocharger

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Malcolm William Mason - 04 Sep 2005 03:12 GMT
Hello to all,

I read the following earlier:
"I have a 9-5 aero -01. How do I calibrate the turbo system. With full
throttle for about 20 sec? Between which rpm?"

This was the  reply:
"You find a longer steep hill. In 4. or 5. gear, drive with full
throttle in
the range from 2,500 - 3,500 rpm. Do this 3 or 4 times. The adaption
takes
place within 2,750 and 3,250 rpm. You need for the car to stay within
that
rpm-range for at least 4 seconds.

If you do nothing, the adaption will take automatically, but will need a
longer time."

What is being accomplished here? I do not understand what is going on.

would someone please enlighten me.

Oh yes: My Saab 2000 9-5 Aero 115k miles

Thanks to all

Malcolm Mason
Henrik B. - 04 Sep 2005 17:25 GMT
> This was the  reply:
> "You find a longer steep hill. In 4. or 5. gear, drive with full
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> What is being accomplished here? I do not understand what is going on.

Hi Malcolm.

Your car has Saab's Trionic enginemanagement. This is one of the worlds most
advanced engine control systems. It's an adaptive systems, which means it
constantly "learns/reads" the driving conditions: Air temp (and moisture),
hills/mountains, speed a.s.o.

If you for whatever reason disconnect the battery, the Trionic will reset to
standard values. Once you start driving again, the Trionic needs to learn
the driving conditions at new. This takes som time, where you might
experince decreased performance. You can speed up the process, by doing as
mentioned.

Do you get it?

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Saab Guy - 04 Sep 2005 22:12 GMT
Henrik,

You said you had a lot of Saab videos? How are they coming?

When can you get them to us?

SG
Henrik B. - 05 Sep 2005 06:58 GMT
> You said you had a lot of Saab videos? How are they coming?

Nothing done yet.

> When can you get them to us?

When I get around to do it.  ;o)

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Saab Guy - 05 Sep 2005 14:48 GMT
> > You said you had a lot of Saab videos? How are they coming?
>
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> When I get around to do it.  ;o)

Henrik,

What Saab videos do you have?

Also, will they compliment what is on www.saabvideos.com?

It's been a few months now, that's why I ask.

SG
Malcolm William Mason - 04 Sep 2005 22:44 GMT
>> This was the  reply:
>> "You find a longer steep hill. In 4. or 5. gear, drive with full
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>
>Do you get it?

Hi Henrik,,

I am still bewildered.

What does it have to "learn" that is not pre-set at the factory?

By the way , do you have any idea as to what speed the auto will be at
during a full throttle down hill 5th gear 3500 revs run?

Thanks

Malcolm
Colin Stamp - 04 Sep 2005 22:57 GMT
>>> This was the  reply:
>>> "You find a longer steep hill. In 4. or 5. gear, drive with full
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>
>What does it have to "learn" that is not pre-set at the factory?

There's a lot of variables that can't be fully known by the factoy
setup. i.e. type of fuel, tolerances in injector flow-rates and
fuel-pressure, different exhaust fitments etc. etc.

>By the way , do you have any idea as to what speed the auto will be at
>during a full throttle down hill 5th gear 3500 revs run?

The idea of using a hill is to keep the speed down. You drive up it,
not down it.

Cheers,

Colin.
LC - 05 Sep 2005 08:02 GMT
>>>> This was the  reply:
>>>> "You find a longer steep hill. In 4. or 5. gear, drive with full
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> Colin.

Another thing to learn is how you drive can be different than how others
drive, where you accellerate/decellerate will be wildly different from your
next door neighbor, wife, best friend, etc.  It's unfortunate that there
isn't some sort of NVRAM that will hold this information with a 9v battery
or something to keep it from being lost every time the battery gets d/c'd.
James Sweet - 05 Sep 2005 08:38 GMT
> Another thing to learn is how you drive can be different than how others
> drive, where you accellerate/decellerate will be wildly different from your
> next door neighbor, wife, best friend, etc.  It's unfortunate that there
> isn't some sort of NVRAM that will hold this information with a 9v battery
> or something to keep it from being lost every time the battery gets d/c'd.

Still it seems to me that doing anything other than driving normally would
defeat the purpose of this feature. If it's intended to adapt to the way you
drive, then drive and let it adapt. I don't see the logic in fooling it by
driving differently initially.
Turubo - 08 Sep 2005 14:50 GMT
> Another thing to learn is how you drive can be different than how others
> drive, where you accellerate/decellerate will be wildly different from your
> next door neighbor, wife, best friend, etc.  It's unfortunate that there
> isn't some sort of NVRAM that will hold this information with a 9v battery
> or something to keep it from being lost every time the battery gets d/c'd.

Ah, but you probably only need the 9V battery! I've seen cigar lighter
plugs with a 9V battery on a pigtail. You plug it in before removing
your car battery and it keeps the computer memory alive. That's the
theory, at least. Porsche owners use them to preserve the Bosch
adaptive settings in their cars. Might work with the Saab system, too,
if 9v is enough. Simple enough to rig up with some cheap parts and a
5-min soldering job.

Turubo
James Sweet - 08 Sep 2005 17:21 GMT
> > Another thing to learn is how you drive can be different than how others
> > drive, where you accellerate/decellerate will be wildly different from your
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> Turubo

You want a diode in there too, otherwise the 12v car battery will be trying
to charge the 9v and that can lead to leakage or rupture.
 
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