Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
HomeAnnouncements
Discussion Groups
By Brand
BMWChevroletDodgeFordGMHondaLexusMercedes-BenzNissanPeugeotToyotaVolkswagenOther Brands
By Topic
4x4 CarsRVsDrivingMaintenance & RepairCar AudioCollectible Cars
Country Specific
Australian ForumsUK Forums
ArticlesAuto InsuranceBuyingCars & TechnologyMaintenanceMiscellaneousSafety
DMV Resources
Related Topics
MotorcyclesBoatsMore Topics ...

Car Forum / Saab Cars / September 2005

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Coutanche

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
Malcolm William Mason - 26 Sep 2005 06:55 GMT
I believe someone posted a message about a Saab 9-5 with HOT against a
Coutanche.

The name is familiar to me (Coutanche) but I just cannot place it. Is it
a model of a manufacturer..Italian seems right but I am only vaguely
recalling or else having a senior moment.

Malcolm Mason
Pidgeonpost - 26 Sep 2005 07:40 GMT
>I believe someone posted a message about a Saab 9-5 with HOT against a
> Coutanche.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Malcolm Mason

.....'Coutanche' doesn't ring any bells, but maybe you mean the Lamborghini
Countach - Italian muscle car...?
Have a look here....http://www.countach.cc/index.html
Pooh Bear - 26 Sep 2005 08:13 GMT
> >I believe someone posted a message about a Saab 9-5 with HOT against a
> > Coutanche.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Countach - Italian muscle car...?
> Have a look here....http://www.countach.cc/index.html

Dunno about  9-5 vs Countach but apparently a 9000 Aero would ( does )
out-accelerate almost everything in a 60-80 ? mph overtaking manoeuvre.

Grham
Malcolm William Mason - 27 Sep 2005 04:48 GMT
>>I believe someone posted a message about a Saab 9-5 with HOT against a
>> Coutanche.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Countach - Italian muscle car...?
>Have a look here....http://www.countach.cc/index.html

You Got it! But how is Countach promnounced?

Count...  tack?

Coon... tawsh?

Please excuse the phonetics.

Malcolm Mason
James Sweet - 27 Sep 2005 05:05 GMT
> >>I believe someone posted a message about a Saab 9-5 with HOT against a
> >> Coutanche.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Malcolm Mason

Coon-tawsh
Malcolm William Mason - 27 Sep 2005 15:23 GMT
Thank you

Malcolm

>> >>I believe someone posted a message about a Saab 9-5 with HOT against a
>> >> Coutanche.
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
>Coon-tawsh
Craig's Saab C900 Site - 26 Sep 2005 17:53 GMT
>I believe someone posted a message about a Saab 9-5 with HOT against a
>Coutanche.

>The name is familiar to me (Coutanche) but I just cannot place it. Is it
>a model of a manufacturer..Italian seems right but I am only vaguely
>recalling or else having a senior moment.

Lamborginhi is the manufacturer. Dunno if I spelt it correctly though. 8-)

Craig.
Signature

Craig's Saab C900 Page --> http://lios.apana.org.au/~c900 Sydney, NSW Australia
Craig's Classic Saab Workshop -- For Saab 99/C900/9000 Enthusiasts world-wide!
 http://www.saab900classic.net http://www.saab900.org c900@lios.apana.org.au
 Come and explore our site, and check out our web-forums, mailing list, etc.

Paul Halliday - 26 Sep 2005 20:24 GMT
> I believe someone posted a message about a Saab 9-5 with HOT against a
> Coutanche.
>
> The name is familiar to me (Coutanche) but I just cannot place it. Is it
> a model of a manufacturer..Italian seems right but I am only vaguely
> recalling or else having a senior moment.

Lambo ... and it's a Countach :)

Very retro close-up. There's one at the Car Museum in Batley, West Yorkshire
(UK). I bet a 9-5 HOT would piss all over it, without looking at the
specifications.

Paul

1989 900 Turbo S
http://saab.go.dyndns.org/
NeedforSwede2 - 26 Sep 2005 22:40 GMT
>Very retro close-up. There's one at the Car Museum in Batley, West Yorkshire
>(UK). I bet a 9-5 HOT would piss all over it, without looking at the
>specifications.

Later model Countach versions had 400Horses mid engined rear drive I
think.

Depends on what definition of Piss on you use.
On fuel economy certainly.

http://members.fortunecity.com/megacarman1/id179_m.htm
http://www.lambocars.com/archive/countach/lp400s.htm

A 9k Aero and a 9-5 HOT Aero are good cars, and you can see to reverse,
but they can't quite "piss on" those specs.
Signature

Carl Robson
Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz
Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com

David Taylor - 26 Sep 2005 23:07 GMT
> http://www.lambocars.com/archive/countach/lp400s.htm

Production : 150
Chassisnr. : 112.0001 - 112.0300

Something not quite right about those numbers!

> A 9k Aero and a 9-5 HOT Aero are good cars, and you can see to reverse,
> but they can't quite "piss on" those specs.

No but you'd be a little ticked off in your supercar to have this damn
Saab Aero, not *that* far behind looking at any of the numbers.

0-60, 5.6 vs 6.7, on the road that's not that much, after 6 to 7 seconds
to only have one second difference or thereabouts.  At that speed we are
nagged to leave a two second gap.

Then on the 1/4 mile, it's not that obscene either.  On numbers alone,
the Countach might have more HP but the torque isn't that high for the
lower speed stuff, handy for the top speed but seriously, where can you
sustain such a high top speed safely apart from the usual quoted places.

It would be a fun comparison to do, sure the Saab will lose but fun to
see by how much/little depending on your point of view. :)

David.
NeedforSwede2 - 27 Sep 2005 09:13 GMT
> It would be a fun comparison to do, sure the Saab will lose but fun to
> see by how much/little depending on your point of view. :)

Oh I agree.
But 1.1 seconds to 60 might not sound much, but it can feel like a
lifetime.
I watched the top gear where an Evo kept up with a Murcialago.
And yes I know they are both roughly 400bhp (FQ400 Evo), 4x4 and more
modern.
Signature

Carl Robson
Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz
Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com

David Taylor - 27 Sep 2005 10:07 GMT
> But 1.1 seconds to 60 might not sound much, but it can feel like a
> lifetime.

Certainly it might feel like it in the seat of your pants but still
frustrating for the faster car driver to look in his mirror and see that
that family saloon isn't exactly still on the starting block. :)

> I watched the top gear where an Evo kept up with a Murcialago.
> And yes I know they are both roughly 400bhp (FQ400 Evo), 4x4 and more
> modern.

They could have had some fun there and worked out which one would have
arrived first at a destination 500 miles away given that the Evo was
doing something like 8 mpg was it?  Or was it even worse than that I
forget.  Regular fuel stops kind of kill the fun!

:)

David.
MH - 27 Sep 2005 11:07 GMT
>>>.....'Coutanche'
>> how is Countach promnounced?
>> Count...  tack?
>> Coon... tawsh?
> ... an Evo kept up with a Murcialago.

Murciélago -Spanish for bat (the animal). The car is named after a fighting bull
named Murciélago.

Signature

MH
'72 97 '77 96 '78 95 '79 96
'91 900i

NeedforSwede2 - 27 Sep 2005 15:05 GMT
>  >>>.....'Coutanche'
>  >> how is Countach promnounced?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Murciélago -Spanish for bat (the animal). The car is named after a fighting bull
> named Murciélago.

I knew it was named after a fighting bull. But my spelling stinks,
especially non english words.
I can usually get it enough for some one to get realise what I mean and
correct me.
Signature

Carl Robson
Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz
Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com

th - 27 Sep 2005 22:57 GMT
>>http://www.lambocars.com/archive/countach/lp400s.htm
>
> Production : 150
> Chassisnr. : 112.0001 - 112.0300

Which maybe is about the same amount of 9000 cars that have been
modified to around 400 hp engines. I wonder which of those is the fastest?

> Something not quite right about those numbers!
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> It would be a fun comparison to do, sure the Saab will lose but fun to
> see by how much/little depending on your point of view. :)

Probably a 400 bhp 9000 will not lose.

Signature

th

David Taylor - 28 Sep 2005 17:55 GMT
> > Production : 150
> > Chassisnr. : 112.0001 - 112.0300
>
> Which maybe is about the same amount of 9000 cars that have been
> modified to around 400 hp engines. I wonder which of those is the fastest?

I was referring to the chassis number range 001 to 300 and then a
production run of 150!
James Sweet - 28 Sep 2005 21:19 GMT
> > > Production : 150
> > > Chassisnr. : 112.0001 - 112.0300
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I was referring to the chassis number range 001 to 300 and then a
> production run of 150!

I don't know if it's true of cars, but with many products it's not uncommon
for the serial numbers to not run sequentially, I'm not sure why they do
this though.
Dave Hinz - 28 Sep 2005 21:35 GMT
> I don't know if it's true of cars, but with many products it's not uncommon
> for the serial numbers to not run sequentially, I'm not sure why they do
> this though.

oooh!  oooh!  I know this one, pick me!

Um. Sorry about that.  But, serial numbering schemes can be quite useful
and a good way to build useful information into a non-obvious form.
Date coding is the most obvious - serial (or item) number 814, for
instance, is the 14th item of the 8th month.  Switch to A, B, and C for
October, November, and December, and you can do up to 100 items per
month with just 3 digits.  So, B93 would be the 93rd item in November,
that sort of thing.

Add a place of manufacture to it, and a year, and you could have something
like Sun Microsystems uses:

521k0001
^        Last digit of year of manufacture
^^      Week of that year in which item was produced
  ^     Location code showing plant where item was built
   ^^^^ Actual serialized number of items meeting previous criteria

So, if Sun built 53 servers in plant "k" that week, they'd be from
521k0001 to 521k0053, and next week it's start with 522k0001.  There's
your gap.

Then again, it could just be something like "we left room for 500 and
didn't make that many".  Hard to know.

Dave Hinz
James Sweet - 28 Sep 2005 23:44 GMT
> > I don't know if it's true of cars, but with many products it's not uncommon
> > for the serial numbers to not run sequentially, I'm not sure why they do
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> 521k0001 to 521k0053, and next week it's start with 522k0001.  There's
> your gap.

Nifty, so this IPC here was made in March of '91 in plant F, wherever that
is. Dang, now I'm gonna have to drag out the rest of the Sun boxes and have
a look.
David Taylor - 29 Sep 2005 10:09 GMT
> Um. Sorry about that.  But, serial numbering schemes can be quite useful
> and a good way to build useful information into a non-obvious form.
> Date coding is the most obvious - serial (or item) number 814, for

Good point and I should have thought of that given that many years ago
while on work experience I was tasked with designing a numbering scheme
for an electronics company's stores and I didn't start with part 0000001
and go upwards. :)

David.
Paul Halliday - 27 Sep 2005 21:36 GMT
>> Very retro close-up. There's one at the Car Museum in Batley, West Yorkshire
>> (UK). I bet a 9-5 HOT would piss all over it, without looking at the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Depends on what definition of Piss on you use.
> On fuel economy certainly.

:)

> http://members.fortunecity.com/megacarman1/id179_m.htm
> http://www.lambocars.com/archive/countach/lp400s.htm
>
> A 9k Aero and a 9-5 HOT Aero are good cars, and you can see to reverse,
> but they can't quite "piss on" those specs.

Ah well ... I do get carried away when the heart takes control of the head!

Paul

1989 900 Turbo S
http://saab.go.dyndns.org/
Johannes - 27 Sep 2005 15:09 GMT
> > I believe someone posted a message about a Saab 9-5 with HOT against a
> > Coutanche.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> (UK). I bet a 9-5 HOT would piss all over it, without looking at the
> specifications.

Countach was a useless car. Far to wide and hardly any rear view visibility.
The way you reverse it is by hanging outside the car and looking backward.
A unique 80's iconic car, apart from that I remember you could also buy
a lookalike kit car with a small engine. Maybe there was a Court case?
Skyclad - 27 Sep 2005 19:45 GMT
" I remember you could also buy a lookalike kit car with a small engine"

That would be the Pontiac Fiero you're thinking of, I believe.

>> in article t23fj11qshda7uvcd828hc5d91p2ehquj6@4ax.com, Malcolm William
>> Mason
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> A unique 80's iconic car, apart from that I remember you could also buy
> a lookalike kit car with a small engine. Maybe there was a Court case?
John B - 27 Sep 2005 20:33 GMT
> That would be the Pontiac Fiero you're thinking of, I believe.

Ah yes. I seem to recal something about Fieros tending to launch pistons out of
the engine and catch on fire.

John
James Sweet - 28 Sep 2005 00:10 GMT
> > That would be the Pontiac Fiero you're thinking of, I believe.
>
> Ah yes. I seem to recal something about Fieros tending to launch pistons out of
> the engine and catch on fire.
>
> John

Wouldn't surprise me, I worked with a guy who had one of those piles, never
did run right, eventually the transmission died and it sat in the parking
lot at work for 3 months until they finally made him haul it out of there.
Skyclad - 28 Sep 2005 00:55 GMT
Actually I have had a Fiero for quite some time and it is very reliable.
Was using it as my daily driver until child number two arrived, needed more
space,
and ened up with my 9000 Turbo :).
It has a 2.8L V6 in the back, pretty quick car. I've been in Taxis with
600,000+ kms on the same 2.8L,
mine has 220,000 kms and going strong.
Like most any  vehicle I've had ....if you take care of it, it will last.

As for the fires, the first model ( 4cyl in 1984 ) had a tendancy to blow
oil through a gasket onto a wiring
harness close to the exhaust....then break out the sticks and marshmallows.
That was corrected pretty
quickly, but stories like that tend to haunt a vehicle.

Well, there you go, just what everyone on a Saab forum wants info on a
Fiero!....Sorry ;).

Cheers,
           Greg

>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 18:45:34 GMT, Skyclad <Donotreply@thisaddress.com>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> did run right, eventually the transmission died and it sat in the parking
> lot at work for 3 months until they finally made him haul it out of there.

Rate this thread:






 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2008 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.