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Car Forum / Saab Cars / October 2005

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Saab 9-5 main beam relay fails.  Dealer charges 90 UKP to 'locate fault'.

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David Tong - 29 Oct 2005 15:49 GMT
After a brief stop last monday evening both main beams on my Saab 9-5 (new
mid-1999) failed to work even though they'd worked fine previously.  Each
beam has own fuse, and very unlikely both would fail together, so sounded
like the main beam relay.  By phone the service guy at Saab main dealer
agreed this seemed likely, so I booked it in for collection, repair, and for
two new tyres at the same time.

When car delivered back the invoice shows over 400 UK pounds.  Worse, one
item is 90 UKP for 'tracing fault in electrical system and localising to
main beam relay'.   (Relay itself another 39 UKP).  The garage service
department justified it by saying the 'engineer' spent '2.49' hours on the
whole job (including tyre fitting and balancing) at 79 pounds per hour.
Said they had to go through a 'structured fault-finding scheme' to locate
the relay problem.  To me it's an exorbitant charge for proving the obvious.

Two years ago I got suspicious when I collected a replacement remote control
key unit I'd ordered.  The guy at the desk went in the back and I overheard
a muttered exchange:  'What should I charge for it?'.  Answer: 'Hmm, what
about 150 quid?'

I'd intended to buy a new 9-5 from this same dealer when the new version
comes out (making it my fourth new Saab from them over the years) but the
way I feel right now, they're the last ones I want to buy from.  Snag is
they're the nearest dealer and I'm not sure if others would collect and
deliver for servicing.  Maybe it's time to forget Saab...

I'd appreciate second opinions on this.  I expect to pay a reasonable
premium for good service if they're honest with it, but this 'fault-finding'
charge makes me feel I've been taken for a mug once too often.

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David Tong

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John Hudson - 29 Oct 2005 20:07 GMT
> After a brief stop last monday evening both main beams on my Saab 9-5 (new
> mid-1999) failed to work even though they'd worked fine previously.  Each
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> ---
> David Tong
I don't like the idea of using a main dealer if one is running a 6 year old
car unless you have your own business ( unlikely with a 6 year old car) or
have an expense account. Write the bill off to experience and either do the
work yourself or find a small outfit that specialises in Saabs. I am sorry
you have been caught but someone has to pay for the nice showroom and the
smartly dressed staff. I hope you used the coffee machine.
Paul Halliday - 29 Oct 2005 20:22 GMT
>> After a brief stop last monday evening both main beams on my Saab 9-5 (new
>> mid-1999) failed to work even though they'd worked fine previously.  Each
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> you have been caught but someone has to pay for the nice showroom and the
> smartly dressed staff. I hope you used the coffee machine.

I'd echo that sentiment - sounds like you need a specialist, rather than
using the main st^H^Hdealer. I'm sure if you posted where in the UK? you
are, recommendations will be forthcoming.

Paul

1989 900 Turbo S
http://saab.go.dyndns.org/
David Tong - 31 Oct 2005 14:28 GMT
> in article EvOdnaJu7IMmVf7enZ2dnUVZ8qKdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk, John Hudson
> at
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>>> one
>>> item is 90 UKP for 'tracing fault in electrical system and localising to

snip

>> have an expense account. Write the bill off to experience and either do
>> the
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> 1989 900 Turbo S
> http://saab.go.dyndns.org/

Thanks to those who responded to my rant.  Maybe I've been a mug, but
minimising hassle and extra cost go together so I don't mind paying within
reason.  But I don't think this is reasonable.  I'd call it 'killing the
golden goose'.  Anyway it's lost them a new car sale as a result.

Anyone know a good Saab specialist in the Leeds (UK) area?

David.
Pooh Bear - 30 Oct 2005 11:07 GMT
> After a brief stop last monday evening both main beams on my Saab 9-5 (new
> mid-1999) failed to work even though they'd worked fine previously.  Each
> beam has own fuse, and very unlikely both would fail together, so sounded
> like the main beam relay.  By phone the service guy at Saab main dealer
> agreed this seemed likely, so I booked it in for collection, repair, and for
> two new tyres at the same time.

If you're daft enought to ask a Saab dealer to fit you new tyres they probably
took you for a mug who wants to be overcharged.

How much were the tyres btw ?

Graham
 
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