I followed with interest the recent thread about DI failure, having had to
spend around $600 to have one replaced yesterday on my 97 9000 Aero. I'm
trying to understand if I did something to cause it to fail.
About a week ago, my battery died, after the headlights were on for about 30
minutes without the engine running. Foolish of me. But I jump started it and
then used my trickle charger overnight and all seemed fine the next day.
About a week later, after the car started and ran normally, I went to start
it again after a couple hours. Good cranking but no start. I kept trying but
eventually the battery ran down. I popped the hood and got a strong smell of
burning plastic. Had it towed to the shop where they said my battery,
although it took a charge, would still not pass a load test. So new battery.
They also said the DI had fried and that was what I smelled. I'd replaced
the plugs (yes, the NGK's) in early September but he said two of them were
fouled. Could that be a sign that the DI was failing, not delivering enough
spark to the plugs? Did I cause the failure by continuing to try to start
it?
Any wisdom appreciated.
Michael
yaofeng - 22 Dec 2005 18:52 GMT
> I followed with interest the recent thread about DI failure, having had to
> spend around $600 to have one replaced yesterday on my 97 9000 Aero. I'm
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> spark to the plugs? Did I cause the failure by continuing to try to start
> it?
First of all, $600 for the DI cassette? It costs no more than $300
new. Likely $275 or so. Why $600? There are only four torx screws to
seat the DI cossette and an electrical connector. It takes about five
minutes to replace it.
I suspect your battery issue and the DI cassette are unrelated. Just
happen to go bad near the same time. Battery may have been on the way
out. How old is the battery?
> Any wisdom appreciated.
>
> Michael
Henrik B. - 23 Dec 2005 20:50 GMT
>I followed with interest the recent thread about DI failure, having had to
>spend around $600 to have one replaced yesterday on my 97 9000 Aero. I'm
>trying to understand if I did something to cause it to fail.
$600.-!!?? Saab has lowered the prices for the DI's just a month ago.
Go back to that dealer and demand a refund, he's screw*** you over...

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ma_twain - 24 Dec 2005 04:38 GMT
I heard Saab was selling the DI for $120. Either the original source of
this information was incorrect or perhaps he bought a after market DI.
>>I followed with interest the recent thread about DI failure, having had to
>>spend around $600 to have one replaced yesterday on my 97 9000 Aero. I'm
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> Go back to that dealer and demand a refund, he's screw*** you over...
mdb - 26 Dec 2005 20:48 GMT
He charged $420 for the DI part. Another $85 for the replacement battery.
More for a new set of plugs. Plus about $60 for "shop fees", "hazardous
materials", etc. Plus labor to diagnose and replace DI and battery.
Anyone have any ideas on my original question, whether my actions caused any
of the problem?
>I heard Saab was selling the DI for $120. Either the original source of
>this information was incorrect or perhaps he bought a after market DI.
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>> Go back to that dealer and demand a refund, he's screw*** you over...
WOOFER - 29 Dec 2005 05:08 GMT
This is borderline anecdotal evidence but after I toasted a couple DI
cassettes, my favorite SAAB mechanic said "You ain't usin' them fancy Bosch
spark plugs are ya?" I told him I was, in fact, using Bosch Platinum + .
He said I could switch back to NGK's or keep buying DI cassettes. I threw
away $13 of spark plugs and never had another problem.
Woof.
>I followed with interest the recent thread about DI failure, having had to
>spend around $600 to have one replaced yesterday on my 97 9000 Aero. I'm
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> Michael
Pooh Bear - 29 Dec 2005 06:29 GMT
> This is borderline anecdotal evidence but after I toasted a couple DI
> cassettes, my favorite SAAB mechanic said "You ain't usin' them fancy Bosch
> spark plugs are ya?" I told him I was, in fact, using Bosch Platinum + .
> He said I could switch back to NGK's or keep buying DI cassettes. I threw
> away $13 of spark plugs and never had another problem.
Never ever use anything other than the real NGKs. Ever.
Graham
Dave Hinz - 29 Dec 2005 15:57 GMT
> This is borderline anecdotal evidence but after I toasted a couple DI
> cassettes, my favorite SAAB mechanic said "You ain't usin' them fancy Bosch
> spark plugs are ya?" I told him I was, in fact, using Bosch Platinum + .
> He said I could switch back to NGK's or keep buying DI cassettes. I threw
> away $13 of spark plugs and never had another problem.
We've seen that story over and over and over here. NGK only for Saabs.
Period. With all the Bosch electricals in that car, if Bosch plugs were
appropriate, they'd have put 'em in at the factory.
The spark plug in modern Saab engines is used as a conductivity sensor
to determine when to fire the sparks, so it's way more than a spark plug
used to be used for.