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Frappr map for a.a.saab

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Grunff - 24 Dec 2005 13:44 GMT
Hi all,

I've been playing around with frappr.com, and thought it'd be
interesting to have a map for alt.autos.saab, so we can all get an idea
of whereabouts we are.

So, I've created a map here:
http://www.frappr.com/aasaab

If you're interested in seeing where other regulars are from, go there
and add yourself. All you need to supply is a name - so use your
alt.autos.saab handle.

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Grunff

Pooh Bear - 24 Dec 2005 14:37 GMT
> Hi all,
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> and add yourself. All you need to supply is a name - so use your
> alt.autos.saab handle.

Hah !

It won't add me. Despite there being some 6 ? St Albans in the USA even (
that it doesn't seem to recognise either ) . I just need the original one.

Graham
Paul Halliday - 24 Dec 2005 14:48 GMT
> It won't add me. Despite there being some 6 ? St Albans in the USA even (
> that it doesn't seem to recognise either ) . I just need the original one.

Try 'Saint Albans' :)

Paul

1989 900 Turbo S
http://saab.go.dyndns.org/
Pooh Bear - 24 Dec 2005 15:12 GMT
> > It won't add me. Despite there being some 6 ? St Albans in the USA even (
> > that it doesn't seem to recognise either ) . I just need the original one.
>
> Try 'Saint Albans' :)

Cheers.

Ok that worked.But strangely the map doesn't ! I say strangely since I know
Google has maps/satellite views of the UK.

Graham
Pooh Bear - 24 Dec 2005 21:34 GMT
> > > It won't add me. Despite there being some 6 ? St Albans in the USA even (
> > > that it doesn't seem to recognise either ) . I just need the original one.
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> Ok that worked.But strangely the map doesn't ! I say strangely since I know
> Google has maps/satellite views of the UK.

Oh ! It's sorted itself out now. Result !

Graham
Paul Halliday - 24 Dec 2005 14:41 GMT
> I've been playing around with frappr.com, and thought it'd be
> interesting to have a map for alt.autos.saab, so we can all get an idea
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> and add yourself. All you need to supply is a name - so use your
> alt.autos.saab handle.

I've added myself and taken the liberty of adding the SAAB Specialists
garage that I use. I think that's a good resource, too.

The UK SAABs one is here: <http://www.frappr.com/uksaabs>

Merry Christmas,

Paul

1989 900 Turbo S
http://saab.go.dyndns.org/

Johannes - 24 Dec 2005 16:07 GMT
> Hi all,
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> and add yourself. All you need to supply is a name - so use your
> alt.autos.saab handle.

Tried to add my name & location, but it didn't work.
Grunff - 24 Dec 2005 16:31 GMT
> Tried to add my name & location, but it didn't work.

If you first click the "not in US link", then type the name of your
nearest town, you should get a dropdown of UK towns with similar names.
Then you just pick the town nearest to you.

Bear in mind this is an AJAX application, so it relies heavily on the
browser. As such browser support is fairly limited, only IE6 and FF1.0
are supported afaik.

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Paul Halliday - 24 Dec 2005 19:37 GMT

> Bear in mind this is an AJAX application, so it relies heavily on the
> browser. As such browser support is fairly limited, only IE6 and FF1.0
> are supported afaik.

From what I remember, Safari 1.x (Mac OS X) had issues when I tried to add
to the UK SAABs map. I had to use Firefox. Safari 2.x (part of Mac OS X
10.4) does not have issues.

Merry Christmas all,

Paul

1989 900 Turbo S
http://saab.go.dyndns.org/
Johannes - 26 Dec 2005 13:21 GMT
> > Tried to add my name & location, but it didn't work.
>
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> --
> Grunff

I wanted to remove my entry since I am unable to edit it. But now I am
also unable to remove my entry. I have registered and followed the FAQ/help,
but it is useless. Now I just want to delete my entry.
Grunff - 26 Dec 2005 13:27 GMT
> I wanted to remove my entry since I am unable to edit it. But now I am
> also unable to remove my entry. I have registered and followed the FAQ/help,
> but it is useless. Now I just want to delete my entry.

The only way you can edit/remove your entry is if you created an account
when you added your entry (yes, I know, it's very poor usability).

I've removed both your entries for you. You can now add yourself again
if you wish, creating an account along the way.

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Grunff

Johannes - 26 Dec 2005 13:33 GMT
> > I wanted to remove my entry since I am unable to edit it. But now I am
> > also unable to remove my entry. I have registered and followed the FAQ/help,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> --
> Grunff

Thanks. My modem connection is really too slow for this. Any attempt of
doing something takes ages on my system.
Johannes - 26 Dec 2005 23:30 GMT
> > I wanted to remove my entry since I am unable to edit it. But now I am
> > also unable to remove my entry. I have registered and followed the FAQ/help,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> --
> Grunff

Grunff, please remove my entry again. I typed in London, but it put in
Birmingham instead!!!
Johannes - 26 Dec 2005 23:56 GMT
> > I wanted to remove my entry since I am unable to edit it. But now I am
> > also unable to remove my entry. I have registered and followed the FAQ/help,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> --
> Grunff

It is a mess. The account is still there from 24/12. But the account is not
associated with my entry. And I can't create a new account because the
email is already recognised. The profile says London, but the display says
Birmingham Alabama! This may be due to session timing problems for my
dial-up connection. I have now given up using the system.
Nasty Bob - 24 Dec 2005 20:44 GMT
> Hi all,
>
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> --
> Grunff

Cool Idea Grunff -
Happy Christmas all :)
dave - 24 Dec 2005 23:32 GMT
> Hi all,
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> add yourself. All you need to supply is a name - so use your
> alt.autos.saab handle.

Terrific!

Merry Christmas to all!

dave
Craig's Saab C900 Site - 25 Dec 2005 05:49 GMT
>I've been playing around with frappr.com, and thought it'd be
>interesting to have a map for alt.autos.saab, so we can all get an idea
>of whereabouts we are.

What actually *is* frappr by the way? Is it a google-owned thing, or
something set up by someone with waaay too much free time on their hands.
8-)

>So, I've created a map here:
>http://www.frappr.com/aasaab

>If you're interested in seeing where other regulars are from, go there
>and add yourself. All you need to supply is a name - so use your
>alt.autos.saab handle.

Well I'm trying but it doesn't like any combination of Sydney/NSW/Australia
or even using my local suburb/town name of Waterfall with a combo of
city/state/country... Yes I did select the 'not in the US' link.

Sigh.

Craig.
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Grunff - 25 Dec 2005 07:33 GMT
> What actually *is* frappr by the way? Is it a google-owned thing, or
> something set up by someone with waaay too much free time on their hands.
> 8-)

It's not google owned - it just makes calls to google maps and serves up
data provided by google maps, addind its own data to the maps. So more
the latter, but not as much time as you might think - Google have
already done all the hard work. Super idea though.

> Well I'm trying but it doesn't like any combination of Sydney/NSW/Australia
> or even using my local suburb/town name of Waterfall with a combo of
> city/state/country... Yes I did select the 'not in the US' link.

So after clicking "not in US", and typing in "sydney" in the City box,
what happens? I get a dropdown with:
    * Sydney, New South Wales (Australia)
    * Sydney, Nova Scotia (Canada)
    * Sydney Mines, Nova Scotia (Canada)

If you don't get that, I'm guessing your browser doesn't support the
javascript DOM sufficiently.

While I normally hate sites which rely on javascript for their core
operation, I make a big exception for web apps like this, which would
simply not be possible without javascript (or rather would be far too
tedious to use).

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MH - 25 Dec 2005 12:03 GMT
> Super idea though.
> So after clicking "not in US"...

The Frappr! makers asume the world is either "in the US" or "not in US"... It
would make it easier if there is an extra pre-selection window for a country,
then in the "city" window they only have to show cities in the selected country.
Also the cities list is not sorted; e.g "Santa Ana" is below "Santa Cruz", and I
cannot edit or delete my own entry.

Ok... it's a beta version...

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Grunff - 25 Dec 2005 12:32 GMT
> Ok... it's a beta version...

Oh, there's a whole load of stuff wrong with it - the navigation is
pretty poor on the whole. But it's still a cool idea, and as you say,
it's in beta.

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Craig's Saab C900 Site - 25 Dec 2005 22:32 GMT
> > Super idea though.
>> So after clicking "not in US"...

>The Frappr! makers asume the world is either "in the US" or "not in US"...

I won't go into the 'USA thinks non-US citizens are "aliens"' line... 8-)
Makes us think we're 'invading' the personal space occupied by the USA but
it's all just a myth. lol

But this is a common problem with US-based online checkout sites, etc. that
for years have only understood US/Canada addressing, phone numbers, etc.
It's changing as more and more people use online services. I guess the
Frappr folks are starting from something that works ok then will add more
i18n (internationalisation) support and better web client support later.

Craig.
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Craig's Saab C900 Site - 25 Dec 2005 22:28 GMT
>> Well I'm trying but it doesn't like any combination of Sydney/NSW/Australia
>> or even using my local suburb/town name of Waterfall with a combo of
>> city/state/country... Yes I did select the 'not in the US' link.

>So after clicking "not in US", and typing in "sydney" in the City box,
>what happens? I get a dropdown with:
>     * Sydney, New South Wales (Australia)
>     * Sydney, Nova Scotia (Canada)
>     * Sydney Mines, Nova Scotia (Canada)

>If you don't get that, I'm guessing your browser doesn't support the
>javascript DOM sufficiently.

That might be the case them. I'm using the very latest Firefox 1.5 release
compiled for Solaris 9. I'll have another go at registered in a while to
confirm what the site it doing.

Craig.
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Craig's Saab C900 Site - 25 Dec 2005 22:50 GMT
>That might be the case them. I'm using the very latest Firefox 1.5 release
>compiled for Solaris 9. I'll have another go at registered in a while to
>confirm what the site it doing.

Well guess what - I worked out that if I type in 'sydney australia' all in
lower case with just a single space in between' it works! I got a very long
list of cities to choose from which included much more than just the three
known Sydney variants. So that could still indicate something not working
right however I should know be visible in the list of members.

I did notice that the message to others can't include any HTML code. 8-)

Craig.
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