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Pidgeonpost - 30 Dec 2005 11:58 GMT

...we've been running a VW Golf MKIII alongside our 9000 (2.3 LPT) for some
years, and have been considering getting a newer Golf - possibly one of the
GT TDi's which gives good performance and fuel economy. Now I've always
thought that the 9K, which is usually considered to be 'a large car', was a
big lump at around 1345 kilos, so I was surprised to see that the Golf MKV
2-litre diesel tips the scales at around 1450 kilos! I know the diesel
engine is heavier than the petrol one, but was still surprised to find the
Golf the heavier of the two. Amazing how vehicle weights have crept up I
guess - what with air-bags, impact protection ironmongery etc.
Still planning to keep the 9K at present though...

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WitchDr - 30 Dec 2005 13:30 GMT

Saabs are surprisingly light for what you get. My 9-3 5dr weighs in at
3100Lbs (1860Kilos?) which is realllllly light. The 4 cylinder engine helps
as well. I believe it is one of the reasons Saabs get such superior milage.
I can't think of another car that routinely gets 30mpg with 260 ft/lbs of
torque. Even with city driving it rarely drops below 26 (except in
Florida)...Even a Subaru WRX STI weighs in at 3351Lbs (2010K).

> ...we've been running a VW Golf MKIII alongside our 9000 (2.3 LPT) for
> some years, and have been considering getting a newer Golf - possibly one
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> crept up I guess - what with air-bags, impact protection ironmongery etc.
> Still planning to keep the 9K at present though...

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James Sweet - 30 Dec 2005 18:29 GMT

> Saabs are surprisingly light for what you get. My 9-3 5dr weighs in at
> 3100Lbs (1860Kilos?) which is realllllly light. The 4 cylinder engine helps
> as well. I believe it is one of the reasons Saabs get such superior milage.
> I can't think of another car that routinely gets 30mpg with 260 ft/lbs of
> torque. Even with city driving it rarely drops below 26 (except in
> Florida)...Even a Subaru WRX STI weighs in at 3351Lbs (2010K).

3100 lbs is 1409 kilos and 3351 lbs is 1523 kilos. I didn't realize they
were so heavy, my Volvos, which I've always thought felt like immense
battle tanks weigh in at 2950 lbs and 3100 lbs.

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Craig's Saab C900 Site - 30 Dec 2005 21:45 GMT

>> Saabs are surprisingly light for what you get. My 9-3 5dr weighs in at
>> 3100Lbs (1860Kilos?) which is realllllly light. The 4 cylinder engine helps
>> as well. I believe it is one of the reasons Saabs get such superior milage.
>> I can't think of another car that routinely gets 30mpg with 260 ft/lbs of
>> torque. Even with city driving it rarely drops below 26 (except in
>> Florida)...Even a Subaru WRX STI weighs in at 3351Lbs (2010K).

>3100 lbs is 1409 kilos and 3351 lbs is 1523 kilos. I didn't realize they
>were so heavy, my Volvos, which I've always thought felt like immense
>battle tanks weigh in at 2950 lbs and 3100 lbs.

That's because the older volvo's *are* battle tanks! Just like the C900's
but bigger. lol

Craig.

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Johannes - 31 Dec 2005 12:08 GMT

> >> Saabs are surprisingly light for what you get. My 9-3 5dr weighs in at
> >> 3100Lbs (1860Kilos?) which is realllllly light. The 4 cylinder engine helps
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> That's because the older volvo's *are* battle tanks! Just like the C900's
> but bigger. lol

The Rolls Royce Phantom weighs 2495 Kg. But this is remarkable light weight
for such an incredible hulk of a car. It's 5.8m long and 1.99m wide and has
a 6.7L V12 and all gadgets fitted known to man. I've seen one on the street,
it's the size of a small bus. Then consider that volume and mass grows as
cube of size. The done by using an aluminium space frame for the body.

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