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Car Forum / Saab Cars / March 2006

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I'm Seeling My '02 Viggen some questions

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Craig M. Bobchin - 08 Mar 2006 20:14 GMT
Hi all,

The wife and I decided to sell the '02 Viggen we leased back in July
'02.

I've got some questions about where is the best place to advertise this,
and what you think a fair price would be?

It's in like new condition with some minor scrapes on the Chin spoiler
(what Viggen does not have that) and some minor road rash on the wheels.
Other than that it is clean. Has only 24k on the clock. Runs and looks
like new. I'm placing it on Saabnet, Autotrader, Where else should it
go?

Thanks

Craig

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Dave Hinz - 08 Mar 2006 20:42 GMT
> Hi all,
>
> The wife and I decided to sell the '02 Viggen we leased back in July
> '02.

Are you planning to sell it for the buyout number, or ????
Craig M. Bobchin - 08 Mar 2006 21:58 GMT
Hi Dave,

We are hoping to sell it for somewhere between the buyout amount and the
retail amount.

In checking Kelly Bluebook and other sites it seems that the retail for
this is around 23k. We are not asking that much. If you are serious
about buying it, e-mail me at ca9000cse at sbcglobal dot net.

Craig

> > Hi all,
> >
> > The wife and I decided to sell the '02 Viggen we leased back in July
> > '02.
>
> Are you planning to sell it for the buyout number, or ????

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Fred W - 09 Mar 2006 14:17 GMT
> Hi Dave,
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> Craig

Craig,

There are a few things that you apparently don't understand about buying
and selling used cars.

First and foremost, you (as a private party) will never get anything
close to average retail value.  That is what a dealership would ask (and
later discount to make the sale) becvause they have additional overhead
in the form of preparing the car for sale and then the implied warranty
that must be extended by law.

Next, ignore values found at kbb.com.  They are a shill for dealerships
to make more money.  The trade-in values are too low and their retail
values are too high.  Instead, use NADA.com as these are the people that
publish "the books" used by dealers.

Private parties generally get something above the wholesale (aka
"trade-in") value but definitely less than retail.  Referring to nada.com:

http://www.nadaguides.com

Assuming "normal" mileage (which would be 60k miles for a 4 year old
car), NADA says that your car is worth $16,150 wholesale and $18,775
retail, so a reasonable private party sale price would be approximately
$17,000.  Adjust up or down based on mileage and additional options.

Hope that helps.

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Craig M. Bobchin - 09 Mar 2006 15:53 GMT
Fred,

Thanks for the info. No, I've never sold a car previously.  Based on the
low miles and the theft recovery system etc.. NADA says 17,200 - 19,850.

Also I see cars advertised by private parties as certified, what does
this mean and is it a good idea to get it certified? If so how does one
do that?


> There are a few things that you apparently don't understand about buying
> and selling used cars.
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> Hope that helps.
Fred W - 09 Mar 2006 17:09 GMT
> Fred,
>
> Thanks for the info. No, I've never sold a car previously.  Based on the
> low miles and the theft recovery system etc.. NADA says 17,200 - 19,850.

Cool.  Set your pricing accordingly...

> Also I see cars advertised by private parties as certified, what does
> this mean and is it a good idea to get it certified? If so how does one
> do that?

The only one who can certify a car's the original manufacturer.  It
generally means the car has a very nice extended warranty package from
the manufacturer.  When a private party advertiser says their car is
certified, that means it had been previously certified (by SAAB) when
they bought it and that extended warranty is transferrable.

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Dima - 09 Mar 2006 23:59 GMT
Craig,

What color interior/exterior? Where are you located?

-Dima

> Fred,
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> > Hope that helps.
Craig M. Bobchin - 10 Mar 2006 00:35 GMT
Hi Dima,

I'm in Orange County Ca. The car is Silver/charcoal. Pictures are at

www.pbase.com/craigbob/viggen

> Craig,
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> > > Hope that helps.

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Bob - 11 Mar 2006 03:49 GMT
>Private parties generally get something above the wholesale (aka
>"trade-in") value but definitely less than retail.  Referring to nada.com:

FYI - trade-in is not the same as "wholesale" in the dealership
business... not that the issue is important to a private sale.
roscoeboy - 09 Mar 2006 14:03 GMT
I've had good luck with cars.com, both buying and selling.
 
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