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Car Forum / Saab Cars / March 2006

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C900 funny transmission sound in 3rd

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James Sweet - 13 Mar 2006 00:34 GMT
Recently the '88 C900 (5 speed) gearbox has been making unhealthy
sounds. I've noticed a slight whine in 5th, and then more recently when
engine braking in 3rd it makes a somewhat rattly/grindy noise, not
really nasty but not healthy either. Is this a common problem? I'm
curious if the transmission is doomed to imminent failure, or if this is
simply a nuisance that may not cause any real problems for years.
Dave Hinz - 13 Mar 2006 16:39 GMT
> Recently the '88 C900 (5 speed) gearbox has been making unhealthy
> sounds. I've noticed a slight whine in 5th, and then more recently when
> engine braking in 3rd it makes a somewhat rattly/grindy noise, not
> really nasty but not healthy either. Is this a common problem?

Yes, the pinion bearings were beefed up a year or three after '88.

> I'm
> curious if the transmission is doomed to imminent failure, or if this is
> simply a nuisance that may not cause any real problems for years.

Only if you don't drive it much.  Get it fixed (pinion bearings at
least, more if you've driven it much) or find another box.  '90 I think
is when it was improved, I'm sure someone can confirm or correct.

Dave
Paul Halliday - 13 Mar 2006 20:49 GMT
>> Recently the '88 C900 (5 speed) gearbox has been making unhealthy
>> sounds. I've noticed a slight whine in 5th, and then more recently when
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> least, more if you've driven it much) or find another box.  '90 I think
> is when it was improved, I'm sure someone can confirm or correct.

I heard '89, but it may well depend on the market.

Once repaired, the older boxes can be "strengthened" by using a steel
inspection cover plate. I think if you're getting grinding noises on
over-run/engine braking then it may well be very close to failure and I'd be
inclined to have the box looked at with a view to repair.

Of course, driving style will affect things so take it easy on the
acceleration and perhaps use your brakes rather than the engine until you
have it fixed. Thereafter, I can't see why engine braking will put any
excessive strain on the box.

Paul

1989 900 Turbo S
http://saab.go.dyndns.org/
James Sweet - 13 Mar 2006 22:04 GMT
>>>Recently the '88 C900 (5 speed) gearbox has been making unhealthy
>>>sounds. I've noticed a slight whine in 5th, and then more recently when
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> 1989 900 Turbo S
> http://saab.go.dyndns.org/

What's involved in replacing these bearings? I'm quite adept and
performing extensive repairs and have done a lot of engine work, I've
never attempted to repair a gearbox though. I'm assuming it has to come
out of the car and be disassembled?
Craig's Saab C900 Site - 14 Mar 2006 02:38 GMT
>What's involved in replacing these bearings? I'm quite adept and
>performing extensive repairs and have done a lot of engine work, I've
>never attempted to repair a gearbox though. I'm assuming it has to come
>out of the car and be disassembled?

Have a look at the Twinsaab's manual transmission rebuilding guide at:

http://www.twinsaabs.com/tranny/tranny.html

to get an idea of what's involved in a home rebuild job if you want to
attempt it yourself.

Uprated pinion bearings are sold by Swedish Dynamics I think for something
like US$200 to 300.

Craig.
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PAPAGENE4JACK - 19 Mar 2006 00:47 GMT
The car is almost 20 yrs old what do you expect?
James Sweet - 19 Mar 2006 02:07 GMT
> The car is almost 20 yrs old what do you expect?

My Volvo Turbo is 22 years old, I regularly thrash it, and the
transmission is holding up fine, so I guess that's what I've come to expect.

Needless to say, the Saab trannies obviously are a weak spot, I do still
like the car though.
Dave Hinz - 19 Mar 2006 21:25 GMT
> The car is almost 20 yrs old what do you expect?

Thanks for removing any question about the usefullness of your messages.
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