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Car Forum / Saab Cars / May 2006

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al - 08 May 2006 11:22 GMT
ok, i've found a 9000 anni (' 97)..fully loaded and in pretty good
condition..logged 149 k KM (not miles, KM s)

anybody has reservations for this vehicle ?
what is the realistic(i mean, not romantic) life expectancy on this
vehicle?..

the owner said, the fuel consumption would be 9.0 l / 100 km in
intercity highway@110-120 km/h const speed..

but are there any points that one needs to be aware of , before buying
this vehicle ? (chain life etc)

regards,

al
Pooh Bear - 08 May 2006 12:37 GMT
> ok, i've found a 9000 anni (' 97)..fully loaded and in pretty good
> condition..logged 149 k KM (not miles, KM s)

Nice one.

> anybody has reservations for this vehicle ?
> what is the realistic(i mean, not romantic) life expectancy on this
> vehicle?..

Probably for as long as you care to maintain it.

> the owner said, the fuel consumption would be 9.0 l / 100 km in
> intercity highway@110-120 km/h const speed..
>
> but are there any points that one needs to be aware of , before buying
> this vehicle ? (chain life etc)

Get a decent inspection by a competent mechanic ?

Graham
R. Frist - 08 May 2006 14:36 GMT
Assuming that the oil was changed regularly and there is no significant
rust the car is not even middle age.  My 94 CSE automatic was going
strong at about 280,000 miles (450 k KM?) until it was totaled by high
speed collision with a deer.  I had passed it on to my son when I found
a great 98 CSE that now has 130,000 miles on its odometer.  Neither car
ever requied addition of oil between changes. The only work ever done
on the engine was to replace the rear main oil seal at 260,000 miles.
Both have been the best cars I have ever owned (although I have fond
memories of a 1939 Oldsmobile coupe, and a 1965 Rambler).  By 1997 most
all of the bugs were worked out of the 9000s.  Check www.saabnet.com
for its ideosyncracies and what minor repairs to expect.  From
experience I now carry a spare ignition casette,  a spare serpentine
belt with tensioner and idler pulleys.
NeedforSwede2 - 08 May 2006 16:27 GMT
> ok, i've found a 9000 anni (' 97)..fully loaded and in pretty good
> condition..logged 149 k KM (not miles, KM s)

Manual or Automatic?
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al - 08 May 2006 17:09 GMT
automatic..

thanks,

al
Al - 08 May 2006 21:24 GMT
> automatic..
>
> thanks,
>
> al

From previous experience of my 2.3 FPT 9000, ignition cassette (DI cassette)
and serpentine belt both gave up.

We're extremely happy with our anni'.  Just cost £410 sterling for Saab
specialist  full service, MOT (UK yearly govt' test) and new exhaust.  OK
that's a fair bit of cash but still good value IMO.  Buy it now before
someone else does, I'd be amazed if you regret it.

Al
NeedforSwede2 - 10 May 2006 14:35 GMT
> automatic..
>
> thanks,
>
> al

Apparently the auto boxes can start to become flaky, if not properly
maintained, arround the 100k mile point.you not that far off that are
you?
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R. Frist - 10 May 2006 21:53 GMT
>From 1994 on the Automatic Transmissions are more reliable than earlier
ones.  Take a look at the fluid though.  It should be pink or at least
not a dark brown?
Pooh Bear - 10 May 2006 22:37 GMT
> >From 1994 on the Automatic Transmissions are more reliable than earlier
> ones.  Take a look at the fluid though.  It should be pink or at least
> not a dark brown?

Not quite the same but when I got my first 9000, I checked the ( manual )
gearbox oil and it was clear as could be !

Graham
al - 11 May 2006 06:46 GMT
actually quite close to it(149 k KM) ..but the vehicle is very well
maintained adn i can say that its in showroom condition..though i did
not have it checked properly..

but the transmission, is shifting with almost no delay after the
command is given..i hav tried that myself

regds,

al

> > automatic..
> >
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NeedforSwede2 - 15 May 2006 16:05 GMT
> actually quite close to it(149 k KM) ..but the vehicle is very well
> maintained adn i can say that its in showroom condition..though i did
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> > maintained, arround the 100k mile point.you not that far off that are
> > you?

As R.Frist says, apparently the later autos are better.

Although from what i've heard, even neglected ones with fluid like burn
black treacle, can run almost perfectly until about 100k then just give
up.

That might be the earlier boxes though.
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al - 25 May 2006 17:32 GMT
after an approx 70-80 mi. test drive, i gave up the idea of buying this
vehicle due to the reasons :

1) vehicle has undergone a level 3+  tuning  operation(maptun)..i did
not like this : new upgraded turbo, brake discs, calipers etc..

2) vehicle is too noisy inside..particularly when the turbo is in
"vacuum", the noise is too high..

3) A/C is working too noisy..comparable to those of early 70's american
cars..

4) the *appearance* of the vehicle is definitely spotless..service
records etc, are all good..BUT it does not give the feeling of a modern
car from 1997..rather, you feel like you're driving an early 70's
GM..the dashboard, particularly the warning lights, are just awful..

5) periodic maintenance interval is every 10K km..and thats too
frequent..

6) i drive 50K km/ year..so the approx maintenance cost is 2 K USD /
year..thats a little bit too high

7) price of the car is approx 13 K in USD..this, again, is a little bit
too high for a 1997 car.

thanks for all, who contributed to my inquiry

al
Craig - 25 May 2006 18:15 GMT
> after an approx 70-80 mi. test drive, i gave up the idea of buying this
> vehicle due to the reasons :
>
> 1) vehicle has undergone a level 3+  tuning  operation(maptun)..i did
> not like this : new upgraded turbo, brake discs, calipers etc..

Why didn't you like it? It gave more performance and better stopping
power. I did a Stage 3 upgrade (ECU and 3" Exhaust to my '94 9000 cse
and I love it.)

> 2) vehicle is too noisy inside..particularly when the turbo is in
> "vacuum", the noise is too high..

What about when the turbo was not engaged? Was there too much wind
noise?

> 3) A/C is working too noisy..comparable to those of early 70's american
> cars..

I agree the AC fan is a bit noisy.

> 4) the *appearance* of the vehicle is definitely spotless..service
> records etc, are all good..BUT it does not give the feeling of a modern
> car from 1997..rather, you feel like you're driving an early 70's
> GM..the dashboard, particularly the warning lights, are just awful..

To Each his own I guess. I don't think the dash is 70's americana, I've
had folks remark it looks like a plane cockpit.

> 5) periodic maintenance interval is every 10K km..and thats too
> frequent..

What do you mean by this? Oil and filter changes? I do mine every 3k-5k
and it only costs $25.00. Less if I do it myself.

> 6) i drive 50K km/ year..so the approx maintenance cost is 2 K USD /
> year..thats a little bit too high

What are you considering into the maint. costs?

> 7) price of the car is approx 13 K in USD..this, again, is a little bit
> too high for a 1997 car.

Depends how many miles, condition etc....

> thanks for all, who contributed to my inquiry
>
> al

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