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Car Forum / Saab Cars / July 2006

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Dave Hinz - 25 Jul 2006 02:11 GMT
Looks like we've got a bait message to see if this group is trollable.
If you're replying to odd posts, please consider not continuing the
crosspost.  Just brings noise in to the group.
Charles C. - 25 Jul 2006 10:28 GMT
> Looks like we've got a bait message to see if this group is trollable.
> If you're replying to odd posts, please consider not continuing the
> crosspost.  Just brings noise in to the group.

Hi,

What traffic are you seeing?  I must be missing it, good.

Have you done the CV + axle?  Do you want to remove the cv from my 9000
(the b@st@rd) so I can change the boot?  The damn thing is glued in
place :-D

Regards
Charles

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Dave Hinz - 25 Jul 2006 13:11 GMT
>> Looks like we've got a bait message to see if this group is trollable.
>> If you're replying to odd posts, please consider not continuing the
>> crosspost.  Just brings noise in to the group.
>>
> What traffic are you seeing?  I must be missing it, good.

It was a jibberish, almost hipcrime looking post, crossposted to an odd
group.  It's in a filter now so I'm not going to dig through and find
it, but the crosspost obviously caught my eye.

> Have you done the CV + axle?  

Mostly.  NAPA's parts book was wrong (at least at the local) and I got
one with the inner driver bearings being too big.  The NAPA tech line
(english speaking and in the USA which is a refreshing change) was
familiar with the parts, and "yup, that won't fit and we don't have one
that will".  I considered doing the snapring and swap thing but...
I went back to NAPA, they gave me a full refund including shipping (that
last took a bit of discussion; "Well, look at it this way, why should I
pay for you to ship me the wrong part so I get delayed by a week?").

The guy at NAPA mentioned A1 Driveshaft in Milwaukee as someone who can
rebuild the CV.  OK, fair enough.  So, 62 bucks later (total!), I've got
what the tell me is my same shaft back, looks brand new.  And they did
it in an hour.  Blasted/painted the shaft, reground the ball seats, put
in oversize balls, new boots, new grease, new clamps, not a speck of
rust or grime anywhere on it.  It's almost a shame to put it into that
car.  But 62 bucks and an hour...wow.  Hella deal for them if you think
about it, too; good business model.

> Do you want to remove the cv from my 9000
> (the b@st@rd) so I can change the boot?  The damn thing is glued in
> place :-D

This one just slid out of the hub.  You, er, have taken the nut off,
right?
Fred W - 25 Jul 2006 19:10 GMT
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> it, but the crosspost obviously caught my eye.

It was this one:

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Charles C. - 25 Jul 2006 23:37 GMT
>>> Looks like we've got a bait message to see if this group is trollable.
>>> If you're replying to odd posts, please consider not continuing the
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> This one just slid out of the hub.  You, er, have taken the nut off,
> right?

I did removed the nut :-)  The instructions on the net and the Haynes
manual say it will take some work to move the CV off the hub.

I am changing the thread on the next message.

Charles

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yaofeng - 25 Jul 2006 15:13 GMT
> Have you done the CV + axle?  Do you want to remove the cv from my 9000
> (the b@st@rd) so I can change the boot?  The damn thing is glued in
> place :-D

You may want to consider replacing the CV joint boot from the tripod
bearing side.  You can do it from the CV joint side by opening the snap
ring and knocking the CV joint out of the shaft at the same time.  I
found it far easier to remove the tripod bearing to remove both the
inner drive boot and the CV joint boot by sliding them out of the drive
shaft.

You need a gear puller to remove the tripod bearing.  If you don't have
one Autozone lets you borrow one for free.  Either way it is a messy
job.
Charles C. - 26 Jul 2006 00:51 GMT
>> Have you done the CV + axle?  Do you want to remove the cv from my 9000
>> (the b@st@rd) so I can change the boot?  The damn thing is glued in
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> inner drive boot and the CV joint boot by sliding them out of the drive
> shaft.

Hi,

I can't remove the CV joint from the hub.

My hub puller would not take the road wheel bolts of the car.  So I used
an ordinary puller and some fittings I had made for previous cars.  I
bend the fittings :-)

Now a different hub puller has been bought ... it has bigger gaps for
the road wheel bolts.  See if this
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/search.asp?q=hub+puller (2nd item down the
list) has the necessary strength + big hammer on my part to crack the
seal between CV joint and hub.

If I can remove the CV from the hub then I can work as you suggest.

==============

So how much hammering is needed?

> You need a gear puller to remove the tripod bearing.  If you don't have
> one Autozone lets you borrow one for free.  Either way it is a messy
> job.

Pullers I have, heavy hammers too ... it is just I don't like hammering :-)

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yaofeng - 26 Jul 2006 02:42 GMT
> >> Have you done the CV + axle?  Do you want to remove the cv from my 9000
> >> (the b@st@rd) so I can change the boot?  The damn thing is glued in
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>
> --
No need to hammer.  I used this,

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=45977
Richard Sutherland-Smith - 26 Jul 2006 05:59 GMT
In message <44c6ae75$0$15050$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>
         "Charles C." <c.k.christacopoulos.removeme.@dundee.ac.uk>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I can't remove the CV joint from the hub.

Wouldn't it be easier to take the hub round to a shop with a hydraulic
press. I always watch with wonder how they remove and replace bearings
and shafts.

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Dave Hinz - 26 Jul 2006 07:07 GMT
> In message <44c6ae75$0$15050$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>
>           "Charles C." <c.k.christacopoulos.removeme.@dundee.ac.uk>
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> press. I always watch with wonder how they remove and replace bearings
> and shafts.

Man has a point, Charles.  Perhaps you could just undo the balljoints,
tierod, and leave the caliper on the car and carry the whole thing in.
If you were anywhere near here, I'd do the press work for you.  Unless
it's a strut in which case same point applies with different details.
Take the hub with you, get it out of the car, and whale away on it with
something heavy, at an angle that's conducive to that sort of work.

Dave "On call, 1:am, and waiting for someone in India to do their
work...grrr..." Hinz
yaofeng - 26 Jul 2006 13:29 GMT
> >> Have you done the CV + axle?  Do you want to remove the cv from my 9000
> >> (the b@st@rd) so I can change the boot?  The damn thing is glued in
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>
> --
I looked at your problem again and realized you have the drive shaft
still in the car.  That makes it more compelling to do it from the
inner drive end by removing the tripod bearing using a gear puller.
Separating the drive shaft ftom the hub is more difficult on a 9000
than a c900.  You use the same cheater bar to loosen a 32 mm nut on the
axle.  But you need to pound the axle in to loosen it from the hub.  I
had the drive shaft removed to pull the tripod bearing.  But it can be
done with the drive shaft in car.
 
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