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Car Forum / Saab Cars / August 2006Am I driving a 9-5 or an SUV!
I drive my 2004 9-5 Linear wagon back and forth to work (3 miles each way) and many local errands. I am averaging 15 mpg! I checked the actual mileage calculation vs. the car's computer and came up with 14.2! How can a four cylinder car get gas mileage this low? > I drive my 2004 9-5 Linear wagon back and forth to work (3 miles each way) > and many local errands. I am averaging 15 mpg! I checked the actual mileage > calculation vs. the car's computer and came up with 14.2! How can a four > cylinder car get gas mileage this low? The engine barely even warms up ! No great surprise really. That's a horribly inefficient way to run a car. It's tough on the oil too. How often do you change it ? Graham I just had my 25,000 mile oil change. I've been changing the semi-synthetic when the car tells me to. (It's included with the warranty) >> I drive my 2004 9-5 Linear wagon back and forth to work (3 miles each >> way) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Graham >I just had my 25,000 mile oil change. I've been changing the semi-synthetic >when the car tells me to. (It's included with the warranty) [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> >> Graham With that type of driving, I'd feel guilty doing 2,500 miles between oil changes. I believe automotive engines need to fully warm up on a regular basis to allow the oil to burn-off the raw gas that gets down the cylinder walls during cold operation. Tell us how many miles/month or year and how frequently does it run for say a fifteen minute or more trip? Jim > With that type of driving, I'd feel guilty doing 2,500 miles between oil > changes. I believe automotive engines need to fully warm up on a regular > basis to allow the oil to burn-off the raw gas that gets down the cylinder > walls during cold operation. I believe that's part of the sludge problem with 9-5s. It was designed for efficiency on long runs not short ones. Graham > I believe that's part of the sludge problem with 9-5s. It was designed > for efficiency on long runs not short ones. Still, even on a 900 mile interstate (~75mph average speed) road trip, right after the 60k service, with properly inflated tires, premium gas, etc -- my 2002 9-5 Aero barely managed 28-30 mph. That doesn't strike me as overwhelming efficiency. But back to short trips: I have often wondered whether several successive short trips are considered several short trips or one long trip? E.g. if I have a bunch of errands and I string them together into a 3-4 hour marathon, so the engine oil never really cools down, would that be considered 10 3-mile trips or one 30-mile trip? Gary > But back to short trips: I have often wondered whether several successive > short trips are considered several short trips or one long trip? E.g. if I > have a bunch of errands and I string them together into a 3-4 hour > marathon, so the engine oil never really cools down, would that be > considered 10 3-mile trips or one 30-mile trip? As long as the engine doesn't get cold, the latter. I do this myself. Graham >I just had my 25,000 mile oil change. I've been changing the >semi-synthetic when the car tells me to. (It's included with the >warranty) With a life as you describe you should be changing the oil every 6,000 miles and using fully synthetic as per Saab recommendations. I suggest you need a good flush out of the oil system, drop the sump to check for sludging and do fully synthetic oil changes every 6,000 miles if you want your engine to survive the punishment you are giving it.  SignatureAndrew Sinclair http://www.smellycat.org > I drive my 2004 9-5 Linear wagon back and forth to work (3 miles each way) > and many local errands. I am averaging 15 mpg! I checked the actual mileage > calculation vs. the car's computer and came up with 14.2! How can a four > cylinder car get gas mileage this low? Three miles! Twice a day! Mate, you're driving a SAAB ... Find a longer route to and from work and enjoy the commute :) I find I average 20-22 MPG in my C900 if I *just* go to and from work with a 12 mile run in the morning and again in the evening. That shows how just a few more miles gives much better mileage, since you're driving with the car warmed up. If I go for a longer run, I usually get 25-29 MPG and a long motorway cruise at (erm ...) 70 MPH I get over 30 MPG. With your poor consumption, you could afford a Daihatsu Charade, or a Daewoo Matiz out of the lost money and get 50-70 MPG! Paul 1989 900 Turbo S http://saab.go.dyndns.org/ > > I drive my 2004 9-5 Linear wagon back and forth to work (3 miles each way) > > and many local errands. I am averaging 15 mpg! I checked the actual mileage [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > With your poor consumption, you could afford a Daihatsu Charade, or a Daewoo > Matiz out of the lost money and get 50-70 MPG! That's a *Chevrolet* Matiz now btw ! ;~) http://chevrolet.co.uk/models/matiz_55/index.htm Graham >That's a *Chevrolet* Matiz now btw ! ;~) > >http://chevrolet.co.uk/models/matiz_55/index.htm > >Graham You get one free with every suburban now. You use it to get from the parking lot the the Mall entrance. SignatureCarl Robson Audio stream: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com:8000/samtest Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com > >That's a *Chevrolet* Matiz now btw ! ;~) > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You get one free with every suburban now. > You use it to get from the parking lot the the Mall entrance Is it like a kind of Thunderbirds 2 arrangement ? Graham I drive a 2001 9-5 linear sedan and I consistently get on avg 24 mpg for a 20 mile commute. I drove from Boston to Washington DC (a 460 mile trip) on 70 mph cruise control (mind numbingly boring way to drive mind you) and I got 30 mpg emptying only 3/4 of the tank of petrol! And I have 72,000 miles on the car! Trips like yours are killers, doesn't matter what car you're driving, unless its a Prius. It's all about how you drive dude. /sk > I drive my 2004 9-5 Linear wagon back and forth to work (3 miles each way) > and many local errands. I am averaging 15 mpg! I checked the actual mileage > calculation vs. the car's computer and came up with 14.2! How can a four > cylinder car get gas mileage this low? > I drive a 2001 9-5 linear sedan and I consistently get on avg 24 mpg > for a 20 mile commute. I drove from Boston to Washington DC (a 460 mile [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > calculation vs. the car's computer and came up with 14.2! How can a four > > cylinder car get gas mileage this low? SunnyDC, are you living in D.C. proper? SG Indeed I am. /sk > > I drive a 2001 9-5 linear sedan and I consistently get on avg 24 mpg > > for a 20 mile commute. I drove from Boston to Washington DC (a 460 mile [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > SG >I drive my 2004 9-5 Linear wagon back and forth to work (3 miles each way) >and many local errands. I am averaging 15 mpg! I checked the actual >mileage calculation vs. the car's computer and came up with 14.2! How can >a four cylinder car get gas mileage this low? You need a scooter, a bus, a push bike or to walk. You're potential killing the car, unless you do longer commutes... SignatureThe DervMan www.dervman.com >>I drive my 2004 9-5 Linear wagon back and forth to work (3 miles each way) >>and many local errands. I am averaging 15 mpg! I checked the actual [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > You're potential killing the car, unless you do longer commutes... Potentially, not potential. SignatureThe DervMan www.dervman.com >>>I drive my 2004 9-5 Linear wagon back and forth to work (3 miles each >>>way) and many local errands. I am averaging 15 mpg! I checked the actual [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Potentially, not potential. Y'know I was just about to slap you on the wrist with a comment like "you the group English teacher then?" and I noticed you were correcting yourself......so well done, as you were, as for me I'll just go an measure my flash to bang time again, anyone got a calendar handy? ;-) >>>>I drive my 2004 9-5 Linear wagon back and forth to work (3 miles each >>>>way) and many local errands. I am averaging 15 mpg! I checked the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Y'know I was just about to slap you on the wrist with a comment like "you > the group English teacher then?" :) > and I noticed you were correcting yourself......so well done, as you were, > as for me I'll just go an measure my flash to bang time again, anyone got > a calendar handy? ;-) Heheheh. I won't correct other people whilst I still make mistakes myself... glass houses, stones, that sort of thing! SignatureThe DervMan www.dervman.com > I drive my 2004 9-5 Linear wagon back and forth to work (3 miles each way) > and many local errands. I am averaging 15 mpg! I checked the actual mileage > calculation vs. the car's computer and came up with 14.2! How can a four > cylinder car get gas mileage this low? Howdy, Probably a bit too low. I can get 22-24 (on a 2 litre 1997 CSE engine (in an 9000) in good weather on 5.5 each way daily commute. As everyone else said ... if you get it right 19-20 is the best you should hope for. Once a week or every two weeks you should take it for a longer drive (30 mins or longer) and let the engine warm up at proper RPM :-) I do... and I make sure I enjoy it ;-) Charles SignaturePlease remove _removeme_ to reply. When the weather cools down (it's been 96-99F lately), I'll considering riding my bicycle to work. I guess I'll have to look into more frequent oil changes. It's a nice problem to have. I used to drive 50 miles per day and spend two hours in traffic each way. I guess I may eventually have to resort to "disposable" or leased cars. >> I drive my 2004 9-5 Linear wagon back and forth to work (3 miles each >> way) [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Charles > When the weather cools down (it's been 96-99F lately), I'll considering > riding my bicycle to work. I guess I'll have to look into more frequent oil > changes. It's a nice problem to have. I used to drive 50 miles per day and > spend two hours in traffic each way. I guess I may eventually have to resort > to "disposable" or leased cars. Buy a Smart for short trips ( fun ) or even a Matiz ! Graham > > I drive my 2004 9-5 Linear wagon back and forth to work (3 miles each way) > > and many local errands. I am averaging 15 mpg! I checked the actual mileage [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > (in an 9000) in good weather on 5.5 each way daily commute. As everyone > else said ... if you get it right 19-20 is the best you should hope for. He's talking US mpg though. Graham >>> I drive my 2004 9-5 Linear wagon back and forth to work (3 miles each way) >>> and many local errands. I am averaging 15 mpg! I checked the actual mileage [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Graham Troo, US gallons and all that :-D I fell for it again. SignaturePlease remove _removeme_ to reply. > I drive my 2004 9-5 Linear wagon back and forth to work (3 miles each way) > and many local errands. I am averaging 15 mpg! I checked the actual mileage > calculation vs. the car's computer and came up with 14.2! How can a four > cylinder car get gas mileage this low? That might not be so bad for a short trip. My c900 gets 29 mpg in all-highway driving (even with the AC on!), but only about 14 in the city. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > I drive ... back and forth to work (3 miles each way) That's just a 1 hour walk... or use a bike FGS... SignatureMH '72 97 '77 96 '78 95 '79 96 '91 900i >> I drive ... back and forth to work (3 miles each way) > > That's just a 1 hour walk... or use a bike FGS... Or maybe a moped. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >I drive my 2004 9-5 Linear wagon back and forth to work (3 miles each way) >and many local errands. Walk it, or buy a bicycle. Save the Saab for the weekend when you can stretch it's legs like it deserves. SignatureCarl Robson Audio stream: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com:8000/samtest Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com >Walk it, or buy a bicycle. >Save the Saab for the weekend when you can stretch it's legs like it >deserves. ... and you should realize that if you were driving an SUV like that, you'd be getting 9mpg. |
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