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Car Forum / Saab Cars / January 2007

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Strange sound after removing and retruning dashboard ACC unit

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Nel Frikandel - 07 Jan 2007 10:12 GMT
Hi, I'm a bit worried that I might have screwed something up. I took
out the dashboard ACC panel and one of the heated seat swithches, to
see if I could fix some of the lights that were not functioning, and
when I placed it back, I turned on the ignition to see if it all
worked well again. At that moment I heard dome sort of soft explosion,
a loud "Puffff", kind of like a backfire that I used to have a lot
when the car was till on LPG. I did not crank the engine, just turned
on the ignition I also noticed a strange smell.

I did not dare to start it, due to the late hour, and I could not
notice something irregular under the hood, so today I'll take a look.

Anybody have any clues?
Nel Frikandel - 07 Jan 2007 10:12 GMT
Forgot to mention, it's a 1995 9000 CS

>Hi, I'm a bit worried that I might have screwed something up. I took
>out the dashboard ACC panel and one of the heated seat swithches, to
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>Anybody have any clues?
Al - 09 Jan 2007 20:56 GMT
> Hi, I'm a bit worried that I might have screwed something up. I took
> out the dashboard ACC panel and one of the heated seat swithches, to
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>
> Anybody have any clues?

You've almost certainly trapped and  shorted something out in the dash
board, which in turn should have blown a fuse.

Pull out the ACC unit again and check with a torch for burnt out/blackened
wires.  Check your fuses, and then function of all electrical systems.  I
doubt very much you'll do any further damage by turning ignition on, as a
fuse should have blown.

My guess is something got trapped back there when you pushed the unit back
in, which didn't cause a problem until you turned the ignition on to provide
power to the circuits.

If you find burnt out wire/switch, replace it, and put it all back together
carefully.

If you find a blown fuse it should point you in the direction of which
wires/switches to check.

Good luck, I have my own electrical gremlins to deal with which I may well
post on later this week!

Al
Eeyore - 10 Jan 2007 06:06 GMT
> > Hi, I'm a bit worried that I might have screwed something up. I took
> > out the dashboard ACC panel and one of the heated seat swithches, to
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> Pull out the ACC unit again and check with a torch for burnt out/blackened
> wires.

Fuses *should* protect wires from charring. That's their very purpose.

Graham
Al - 10 Jan 2007 20:59 GMT
>> > Hi, I'm a bit worried that I might have screwed something up. I took
>> > out the dashboard ACC panel and one of the heated seat swithches, to
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> Graham

I couldn't agree more strongly,

just like O-Ring seals  "should" stop space shuttle solid rocket boosters
leaking,  ferry doors "should" close to stop the sea coming in, airport
security "should"stop hijackers, the list is endless.

My opinion stands, a wire was crushed, shorted and that accounts for the
sound and the smell.  Given the above symptoms I stand by my (amateur)
diagnosis.  Thinking on the hoof here, has the original stereo been
replaced?  Amateur wiring to get a couple of positive feeds to the back of a
non Saab radio could easily lead to the above.  If the wiring used was
skinny rubbish, and the power taken from a  circuit on a 20 amp fuse, it's
entirely feasible the wire would blow before the fuse. Especially if it was
badly cut by the replacement of the ACC unit, leaving only a few strands
remaining?  I use the stereo as an example, any other additional circuits
added after manufacture could have the same problem.  I blew a phone kit
automute kit up once because the muppet who fitted it didn't put an inline
fuse in the circuit.  PCB tracks work well as fuses!

If Nel could enlighten us as to where the smell and "puff" sound came from
it would be interesting.

Al
Nel Frikandel - 11 Jan 2007 11:51 GMT
>If Nel could enlighten us as to where the smell and "puff" sound came from
>it would be interesting.

Sure! As it seems the sound & smell came from the part between the
engine compartiment and the dash, there's a small compartment there
that you can screw the lid of, the little hose with the windshield
washer fluid goes in there. As far as I can recollect, the sound did
not come from inside the dash, because when I was placing the unit
back I was with my head very close to the dash, and should have heard
it more clearly. I had the right fron door open when it happened, and
it sounded as if it came from underneith the car. When I opened the
hood, I hardly smelled it anymore.

In the meantime I hav driven the car twice, and noticed that the ACC
seems to  work well, though it is too cold out here to actually notice
if cold air is blowing in, bu I do notice the small shocks that occurr
when the compressor is shifing on or off.

Thanks!
 
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