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Car Forum / Saab Cars / February 2007SAAB logo on hood
The SAAB logo on the hood of my car suddenly vanished. I can still see a round metal piece with an imprint of the logo - but it look like plain steel. Is that a sticker of some sort that could have been ripped off by someone? Or is that a metal piece that is glued to the hood? Anyone had similar issues? My suspicion is that it fell off when the car was washed. Can it be replaced? Help appreciated. > The SAAB logo on the hood of my car suddenly vanished. I can still see > a round metal piece with an imprint of the logo Typical GM Saab logo problem?. Same thing happened to the boot logo of my '95 900SE.  SignatureMH '72 97 '77 96 '78 95 '79 96 '91 900i '95 900SE Mine did the same thing. I think you replace the entire emblem. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BRAND-NEW-SAAB-SCANIA-HOOD-EMBLEM-fits-900-9000-9 3_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33643QQhashZitem220070440095QQihZ012QQitemZ22007044 0095QQrdZ1 Greg >> The SAAB logo on the hood of my car suddenly vanished. I can still see >> a round metal piece with an imprint of the logo > > Typical GM Saab logo problem?. Same thing happened to the boot logo of my > '95 900SE. Folks, You can get a brand new Saab emblem at stateofnine.com with emblem armor as well. www.stateofnine.com >Folks, > >You can get a brand new Saab emblem at stateofnine.com with emblem armor as well. > >www.stateofnine.com I don't think it will help. The badge detaches under the paint from the metal surface due to adhesion problems. I don't think surface protection is going to help at all. >>Folks, >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the metal surface due to adhesion problems. I don't think surface > protection is going to help at all. I'm inclined to agree with you on this. Signature-Fred W > >>Folks, > >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I'm inclined to agree with you on this. Fred, There is no adhesion, there are 2 plastic nipples, no adhesive at all. That's not the issue. It is surface peel-off from many natural elements. >>>>Folks, >>>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > There is no adhesion, there are 2 plastic nipples, no adhesive at all. That's not the issue. It is surface peel-off from many natural elements. No, not the mounting of the emblem to the car. I've changed plenty of them over my years to know how they mount. It's the adhesion of the colored paint to the face of the emblem that is the problem. Covering the paint with some "shield" will not keep it from cracking and peeling off like it is wont to do. Signature-Fred W >It's the adhesion of the >colored paint to the face of the emblem that is the problem. I like it like that, since them I call my 9000 the "silver edition"....I see it as a medal, a compliment for it's years of true service. Since mine peeled of when it had about 250.000Km on the clock. When I reach 500.000Km I could get it painted gold... ;-) >>It's the adhesion of the >>colored paint to the face of the emblem that is the problem. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > service. Since mine peeled of when it had about 250.000Km on the > clock. When I reach 500.000Km I could get it painted gold... ;-) Haha... Funny. When I was reading your first line about liking the silver I was thinking that very thing: "I wonder how it would look plated gold?" Signature-Fred W >Haha... Funny. When I was reading your first line about liking the >silver I was thinking that very thing: > >"I wonder how it would look plated gold?" I guess it would look absolutely terrible, as in tasteless and very nouveauriche'esque. Something like white a pearle white eighties Mercedes S-class with a gold plated star on the hood, that you would see an oil sheik driving around in at the Cote d'azur 20 years ago, or like the "real solid golden keys" Cadillac used to upsell the "gold key delivery program with, on the 1986 Eldorado and Seville models... In othe words: A *must* have !!! If my 9K ever makes it to 500.0000 I hereby solemly swear that I will have the hood logo gold plated ... Just like I would go bezirk if I could ever lay my hands on something like this: http://members.home.nl/nelfrikandel/plaatjes/9000_limo.jpg > The SAAB logo on the hood of my car suddenly vanished. I can still see > a round metal piece with an imprint of the logo - but it look like > plain steel. Is that a sticker of some sort that could have been ripped > off by someone? Or is that a metal piece that is glued to the hood? > Anyone had similar issues? My suspicion is that it fell off when the > car was washed. Can it be replaced? Help appreciated. The logo problem appeared sometimes during the 90-ies AFAIK when a new supplier for the logo was chosen (low cost GM approach?). On my MY1997 and 2000 all four logos are already gone, the surface just crack into pieces and disappear and most 6-10 year old Saabs that you see have this "problem". Don't bother to do anything about it, if Saab doesn't want the logo to be seen then why should you care? Signatureth >> The SAAB logo on the hood of my car suddenly vanished. I can still see >> a round metal piece with an imprint of the logo - but it look like [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > "problem". Don't bother to do anything about it, if Saab doesn't want > the logo to be seen then why should you care? My old 1988 C900 had this problem ... Fortunately, it was a silver car and it looked really good IMO :) The badges are still available with the full SAAB/Scania logotype with Griffin if needed, or just the SAAB and Griffin logo. Carefully pop off the old badge by cushioning a long flat screwdriver on the bonnet and levering it off. It might be stuck on with a little double-sided pad. Once off, clean the area, apply a double-sided pad to the back of the new badge and press on, locating the two pins into the holes (self-explanatory, really). Voila! New car :) Paul 1989 900 Turbo S http://saab.go.dyndns.org/ >>>The SAAB logo on the hood of my car suddenly vanished. I can still see >>>a round metal piece with an imprint of the logo - but it look like [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > My old 1988 C900 had this problem ... Fortunately, it was a silver car and > it looked really good IMO :) Gosh, the GM bean-counters were screwing up the logos back in 1988? Amazing what forethought they had. It amazes me how every little niggling issue with any SAAB is blamed on the GM influence... Signature-Fred W >> My old 1988 C900 had this problem ... Fortunately, it was a silver car and >> it looked really good IMO :) > Gosh, the GM bean-counters were screwing up the logos back in 1988? > Amazing what forethought they had. > It amazes me how every little niggling issue with any SAAB is blamed on > the GM influence... Yup, I was thinking that too, and waiting for someone to blame the sagging headliner in my 99 on them next. >>> My old 1988 C900 had this problem ... Fortunately, it was a silver car and >>> it looked really good IMO :) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Yup, I was thinking that too, and waiting for someone to blame the > sagging headliner in my 99 on them next. They got yours too? Gosh darn those bean-counters :) Paul Vart tog vägen vägen? SAAB : Nothing on earth comes close >>>> The SAAB logo on the hood of my car suddenly vanished. I can still see >>>> a round metal piece with an imprint of the logo - but it look like [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Gosh, the GM bean-counters were screwing up the logos back in 1988? > Amazing what forethought they had. I'm not sure it was GM ... I think it was a gust of wind. I remember a slap on the windscreen (at speed) and thought, "oh, there goes my badge". That was that ... I had a new shiny silver emblem :) > It amazes me how every little niggling issue with any SAAB is blamed on > the GM influence... Well, the new 900 was a pretty awful car in just about every respect, let alone compared to its predecessor or its sibling, the 9000, which was a shared platform with _known for reliability_ FIAT :) I jest, of course ... Apart from the first part. Mind you, I think the steering racks in the C900 were GM parts and that's about the only original part on my car, except for perhaps those screws holding the sill plates down :) Paul 1989 900 Turbo S http://saab.go.dyndns.org/ > >>>> The SAAB logo on the hood of my car suddenly vanished. I can still see > >>>> a round metal piece with an imprint of the logo - but it look like [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > shared platform with _known for reliability_ FIAT :) I jest, of course ... > Apart from the first part. Grrrr! Perhaps you don't know that the 9-3SS and even 9-5 run on FIAT engines!!! The popular 1.9 TiD engine is originally from FIAT and also used in Alfa Romeo and several GM Opel/Vauxhall cars. >>>> in article 3ZTph.28973$E02.11755@newsb.telia.net, th at >>>> someguy@somewhere.se [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > The popular 1.9 TiD engine is originally from FIAT and also used in > Alfa Romeo and several GM Opel/Vauxhall cars. I didn't know that ... How interesting. I was under the impression that the 1.9 TiD was of Opel extraction, so it's interesting to hear that they got it from FIAT. Was that the old 1.9 JTD engine, as fitted to the larger FIATs around 7-10 years ago? Like the Bravo, Brava, Marea and what-not? A lesser known fact about me is that I am quite the FIAT fan, too. In fact, I have owned as many FIATs as SAABs, but had a long term loan of more than one FIAT, making them more the car that I have driven most. Our other car is a MK1 Punto Sporting (although that is leaving us soon , in favour of a Lotus), which is huge fun. Internal space sits 4x 6' adults quite happily, steering is sharp, it jumps forward when you stab the accelerator and you can slide it with yer bum! Paul 1989 900 Turbo S http://saab.go.dyndns.org/ > >>>> in article 3ZTph.28973$E02.11755@newsb.telia.net, th at > >>>> someguy@somewhere.se [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > steering is sharp, it jumps forward when you stab the accelerator and you > can slide it with yer bum! FIAT invented the common rail injection system for modern diesel engines, this resulted in a leap in performance and economy. There is an article her about FIAT's contribution. Look halfway down the page. http://www.carpages.co.uk/fiat/fiat-sedici-part-5-09-04-06.asp Though I'm not a diesel person, I can see it makes economical sense. But I'm not quite convinced about the pleasure, but maybe one day, kicking and screaming, who knows... But, back to the logos... I think the problem is fairly obvious. They paint the logo on chrome. Paint rarely sticks to chrome very well, or for very long. > But, back to the logos... > > I think the problem is fairly obvious. They paint the logo on chrome. > Paint rarely sticks to chrome very well, or for very long. It's not really chrome, AFAICT. It looks moire like aluminum. But it can be polished up to look like chrome if you like that. Signature-Fred W >It's not really chrome, AFAICT. It looks moire like aluminum. But it >can be polished up to look like chrome if you like that. I will have to check it... mine looks like chrome. From what I recall, they chromed it and then painted everything except for the outer edge to get a chrome border around the paint. But, it's been a while, I will have to go look it over. > ... pop off the old badge by cushioning a long flat screwdriver on the bonnet Better use dental floss or nylon fishing line, pull it through under the old badge. It will cut any adhesive and not damage the paint. SignatureMH '72 97 '77 96 '78 95 '79 96 '91 900i '95 900SE >My old 1988 C900 had this problem ... Fortunately, it was a silver car and >it looked really good IMO :) On mine, the entire badge was intact, but over 20 years had bleached to a white disc inside the metal ring. And yes it was a silver car too. SignatureCarl Robson Audio stream: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com:8000/samtest Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com Now Playing at home:Switchblade Symphony-Chain (Recorded At Ho's Studios) >> The SAAB logo on the hood of my car suddenly vanished. I can still see >> a round metal piece with an imprint of the logo - but it look like [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > "problem". Don't bother to do anything about it, if Saab doesn't want > the logo to be seen then why should you care? Because it looks like crap, that's why. Here's the cheap fix: http://www.swedishmotors.com/parts/emblem/index.htm Signature-Fred W >> The SAAB logo on the hood of my car suddenly vanished. I can still see >> a round metal piece with an imprint of the logo - but it look like [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > "problem". Don't bother to do anything about it, if Saab doesn't want > the logo to be seen then why should you care? Because it looks like crap, that's why. Here's the cheap fix: http://www.swedishmotors.com/parts/emblem/index.htm Signature-Fred W > The SAAB logo on the hood of my car suddenly vanished. I can still see > a round metal piece with an imprint of the logo - but it look like > plain steel. Is that a sticker of some sort that could have been ripped > off by someone? Or is that a metal piece that is glued to the hood? > Anyone had similar issues? My suspicion is that it fell off when the > car was washed. Can it be replaced? Help appreciated. Swedish Motors, Marietta, US, sell adhesive replacements that look very good on my 9000 Aero. www.swedishmotors.com SignatureRichard Sutherland-Smith 19 Webb Road, Wanganui 4500, NZ >> The SAAB logo on the hood of my car suddenly vanished. I can still see >> a round metal piece with an imprint of the logo - but it look like [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Swedish Motors, Marietta, US, sell adhesive replacements that look >very good on my 9000 Aero. >www.swedishmotors.com There's a guy selling brand new after-market Saab badges on Ebay but they're a little too large for the size used on the classic 900 hoods, and they don't appear to have the very slight curve to match to hood profile at that point. I bought one to check it out and the quality is very good - it's proper enamel on a proper cast metal base. Craig. SignatureCraig's Saab C900 Page at | Craig's Classic Saab Workshop - Sydney .au http://lios.apana.org.au/~c900 | http://www.classicsaab.net and other URL's Email: c900@lios.apana.org.au | For Saab 99/C900/9000 Enthusiasts World-Wide! Alternate: saabonaut@gmail.com | Web-forums, galleries, library, links, etc. > The SAAB logo on the hood of my car suddenly vanished. I can still see > a round metal piece with an imprint of the logo - but it look like > plain steel. Is that a sticker of some sort that could have been ripped > off by someone? Or is that a metal piece that is glued to the hood? > Anyone had similar issues? My suspicion is that it fell off when the > car was washed. Can it be replaced? Yes. > Help appreciated. What damn country are you in ? Graham Water pressure will wash it away because it is made cheap. Had the same problem > The SAAB logo on the hood of my car suddenly vanished. I can still see > a round metal piece with an imprint of the logo - but it look like > plain steel. Is that a sticker of some sort that could have been ripped > off by someone? Or is that a metal piece that is glued to the hood? > Anyone had similar issues? My suspicion is that it fell off when the > car was washed. Can it be replaced? Help appreciated. Thanks all for the info/advice. I guess I will be ordering a replacement from one of the suggested sites. > Water pressure will wash it away because it is made cheap. Had the same > problem [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Anyone had similar issues? My suspicion is that it fell off when the > > car was washed. Can it be replaced? Help appreciated. |
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