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Becca - 21 Feb 2007 17:52 GMT Hi, I am in grad school and am working on an assignment about cars. My group and I are conducting some research, and would love input from everyone! We have designed a survey to gather information. It is not a quick survey, but it will not take too long either :) Please help us with our research!!
Check out the survey at: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=135523327008
Thanks! Becca
Roadie - 21 Feb 2007 17:57 GMT > Hi, > I am in grad school and am working on an assignment about cars. My [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Thanks! > Becca Here's my answer: I like my car. Please enter in on your survey form and feel free to fill in any other blanks.
johannes - 21 Feb 2007 18:14 GMT > Hi, > I am in grad school and am working on an assignment about cars. My > group and I are conducting some research, and would love input from > everyone! Research is not opinions of others, it's original ideas.
larry moe 'n curly - 22 Feb 2007 00:46 GMT > Hi, > I am in grad school and am working on an assignment about cars. No, you're not, unless you go to a fake college, like the "University" of Phoenix.
yerfriendcf@hotmail.com - 09 Apr 2007 01:35 GMT On Feb 21, 8:46 pm, "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencu...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > Hi, > > I am in grad school and am working on an assignment about cars. > > No, you're not, unless you go to a fake college, like the "University"of Phoenix. The U of Phoenix has a location in the office building where I work. I think the top couple of floors maybe. When I get off work at the end the day, I swear, I see a goodly number of U of P "students" coming in for evening classes, and the group is about 99% black. All getting it paid for not by themselves I'm sure. I can't imagine that U of P provides much in the way of education from the look of most of the students coming in at this location. I think somebody's money is likely being swallowed up by U of P.
Wickeddoll® - 09 Apr 2007 01:42 GMT > On Feb 21, 8:46 pm, "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencu...@my-deja.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > think > somebody's money is likely being swallowed up by U of P. What a lovely, racist though for Easter.
Thank you
Natalie
Jeff - 09 Apr 2007 02:55 GMT <...>
> What a lovely, racist though for Easter. > > Thank you > > Natalie You picked up on the racist part, too, huh?
Wickeddoll® - 09 Apr 2007 04:19 GMT "Jeff" ...
> "Wickeddoll®" ... > <...> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > You picked up on the racist part, too, huh? That post stank of it. How dare that troll assume all blacks take handouts. I never have, and will try never to do so.
But a narrow-minded individual such as this would probably say, "You're a credit to your race"
*rolling eyes*
Natalie
Jeff - 09 Apr 2007 04:30 GMT > "Jeff" ... >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > But a narrow-minded individual such as this would probably say, "You're a > credit to your race" That would be true of all individuals who are taking advantage of the chance to get an education, regardless of who is paying.
Of course, what the racist people don't get is that the race to which these people are a credit is the human race.
Jeff
> *rolling eyes* > > Natalie Wickeddoll® - 09 Apr 2007 04:40 GMT "Jeff"
>>> "Wickeddoll®" ... >>> <...> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Jeff True, that - but he targeted us in particular, so I felt the need to speak up.
Natalie
Espressopithecus@java.net> - 09 Apr 2007 20:37 GMT > > But a narrow-minded individual such as this would probably say, "You're a > > credit to your race" [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Of course, what the racist people don't get is that the race to which these > people are a credit is the human race. I agree, and add that the phrase "a credit to your race" may actually encourage racist thinking.
IMHO, we should take no pride in what others do, just as we should take no pride in what we were born with. I didn't choose my parents, and neither did anyone else. So whether we're tall, short, black, white, yellow, etc. is nothing in which any of us should take pride. It's simply a fact of heredity. What's important is what we do with the gifts we inherited.
We SHOULD take pride only in what we accomplish ourselves or something to which we actively contribute.
On the other hand, we could all buy Indianapolis Colts jerseys and feel good about ourselves while shouting "we're #1!" ;)
Java
Fred W - 09 Apr 2007 22:12 GMT > On the other hand, we could all buy Indianapolis Colts jerseys and feel > good about ourselves while shouting "we're #1!" ;) Sorry, can't do that either. The NFL is rigged. They handed the championship to the Colts in the semi-finals so that their darling boy, Peyton could have a ring.
Besides, how can you say "we" if you aren't even on the team?
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Fred W - 09 Apr 2007 22:12 GMT > On the other hand, we could all buy Indianapolis Colts jerseys and feel > good about ourselves while shouting "we're #1!" ;) Sorry, can't do that either. The NFL is rigged. They handed the championship to the Colts in the semi-finals so that their darling boy, Peyton could have a ring.
Besides, how can you say "we" if you aren't even on the team?
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Espressopithecus (Java Man) - 09 Apr 2007 23:50 GMT > > On the other hand, we could all buy Indianapolis Colts jerseys and feel > > good about ourselves while shouting "we're #1!" ;) > > Sorry, can't do that either. The NFL is rigged. They handed the > championship to the Colts in the semi-finals so that their darling boy, > Peyton could have a ring. I think you're giving the NFL far too much credit for superb planning and control.
> Besides, how can you say "we" if you aren't even on the team? That doesn't stop millions from doing it, though! :-)
Java
Scott in Florida - 09 Apr 2007 23:53 GMT >> On the other hand, we could all buy Indianapolis Colts jerseys and feel >> good about ourselves while shouting "we're #1!" ;) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Besides, how can you say "we" if you aren't even on the team? The NFL is rigged?
Right......
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Fred W - 11 Apr 2007 23:35 GMT >>>On the other hand, we could all buy Indianapolis Colts jerseys and feel >>>good about ourselves while shouting "we're #1!" ;) [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Right...... Do you have proof to the contrary? How do you explain the series of bad calls that provided the Colts their trip to the superbowl. By the way, the officials later admitted they "blew" those calls. And yes, the Patriots would have easily handled the Bears, much like they did the Chargers and the Colts until the refs started the silly calls.
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Fred W - 09 Apr 2007 22:14 GMT > On the other hand, we could all buy Indianapolis Colts jerseys and feel > good about ourselves while shouting "we're #1!" ;) Sorry, can't do that either. The NFL is rigged. They handed the championship to the Colts in the semi-finals so that their darling boy, Peyton could have a ring.
Besides, how can you say "we" if you aren't even on the team?
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Fred W - 09 Apr 2007 22:16 GMT >> On the other hand, we could all buy Indianapolis Colts jerseys and >> feel good about ourselves while shouting "we're #1!" ;) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Besides, how can you say "we" if you aren't even on the team? I apologize profusely for the triple posting. The OP had a bogus email address that was bouncing. My bad.
But I'm proud of that...
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Charles C. - 10 Apr 2007 01:40 GMT >>> On the other hand, we could all buy Indianapolis Colts jerseys and >>> feel good about ourselves while shouting "we're #1!" ;) [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > But I'm proud of that... Good ... and I thought you had fingers' problem :-P
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Wickeddoll® - 09 Apr 2007 22:52 GMT <Espressopithecus@java.net>> ...
>> "Wickeddoll®" ... >> > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I agree, and add that the phrase "a credit to your race" may actually > encourage racist thinking. That was my point. It's saying that you're different from others of your race, because they don't usually do as you do. Utter bullshit.
> IMHO, we should take no pride in what others do, just as we should take > no pride in what we were born with. I didn't choose my parents, and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > We SHOULD take pride only in what we accomplish ourselves or something > to which we actively contribute. You don't have to convince me, but I'm sure your lesson is lost on that troll.
> On the other hand, we could all buy Indianapolis Colts jerseys and feel > good about ourselves while shouting "we're #1!" ;) > > Java Tell that to my NE Patriot hubby! Then duck.
Natalie
Scott in Florida - 09 Apr 2007 14:24 GMT >> On Feb 21, 8:46 pm, "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencu...@my-deja.com> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >Natalie Was that Don Imus?
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Wickeddoll® - 09 Apr 2007 22:45 GMT "Scott in Florida" "Wickeddoll®"
>>> On Feb 21, 8:46 pm, "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencu...@my-deja.com> >>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Was that Don Imus? LOL
Natalie
Jeff - 09 Apr 2007 02:54 GMT > On Feb 21, 8:46 pm, "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencu...@my-deja.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > classes, > and the group is about 99% black. I am glad that they are getting an education. It is something that we all need.
> All getting it paid for not by > themselves > I'm sure. Some prejudice sneaking in here, huh?
> I can't imagine that U of P provides much in the way of > education > from the look of most of the students coming in at this location. You haven't been on a college campus lately. Last time I was at City College in Manhatten, most of the students were wearing jeans and did not look very scholarly.
> I > think > somebody's money is likely being swallowed up by U of P. I am glad that these individuals are taking advantage of whatever programs are being offered so that they can get an education. Something that will benefit us all. A lot of people, especially minorities, have a great deal to contribute. Unfortunately, too many didn't get an opportunity to learn in school.
Jeff
Jeff Strickland - 09 Apr 2007 16:40 GMT > I am glad that these individuals are taking advantage of whatever programs > are being offered so that they can get an education. Something that will [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Jeff Unfortunately, too many do not take advantage of the opportunity to learn in school.
School is by definition an opportunity to learn. One can not go to school and NOT be exposed to the opportunity to learn. They may not avail themselves to the many opportunities that are presented to them, but the opportunity is there.
Jeff - 09 Apr 2007 17:34 GMT >> I am glad that these individuals are taking advantage of whatever >> programs are being offered so that they can get an education. Something [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > themselves to the many opportunities that are presented to them, but the > opportunity is there. It is awfully hard to take advantage of the opportunity to learn when kids are running amuck around school, and you live in a shelter and don't have a table to do homework on.
Jeff Strickland - 09 Apr 2007 23:33 GMT >>> I am glad that these individuals are taking advantage of whatever >>> programs are being offered so that they can get an education. Something [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > are running amuck around school, and you live in a shelter and don't have > a table to do homework on. It might be difficult, but it isn't impossible. And, that's not what you said the first time. Your sentence structure made it appear that the opportunity was not presented, and that would be a fault of society or government. The point I was making is that the opportunity is always there if one has the capacity to take what is presented.
To be sure, some presentations manifest themselves better than others, and that is a reflection on society or government. But, no matter the quality of the presentation, NOT taking full advantage is a reflection of the kid. Now, the kid may have issues beyond his or her control, but that isn't what you said that I responded to.
dizzy - 09 Apr 2007 20:34 GMT >School is by definition an opportunity to learn. One can not go to school >and NOT be exposed to the opportunity to learn. They may not avail >themselves to the many opportunities that are presented to them, but the >opportunity is there. But, of course, the science courses which teach about things like evolution, and about dinosaurs roaming the Earth millions of years ago, should be disregarded as "unproven theory" (while accepting the "Adam and Eve" story on pure faith - no evidence required).
rantonrave@mail.com - 09 Apr 2007 05:02 GMT >>>I am in grad school and am working on an assignment about cars.
>>No, you're not, unless you go to a fake college, like the "University"of Phoenix.
>The U of Phoenix has a location in the office building where I work. >I think the top couple of floors maybe. When I get off work at the >end the day, I swear, I see a goodly number of U of P "students" >coming in for evening classes, and the group is about 99% black.
>I can't imagine that U of P provides much in the way of >education from the look of most of the students coming in at >this location. That's true of all UP students, regardless of their race or income, and we found so few of their graduates who applied for jobs were qualified that we now automatically reject anyone who lists UP on their resume.
CompUser - 10 Apr 2007 18:30 GMT In article <1176091353.286475.304790 @e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, rantonrave@mail.com says...
> That's true of all UP students, regardless of their race or income, > and we found so few of their graduates who applied for jobs were > qualified that we now automatically reject anyone who lists UP on > their resume. Do you also "automatically reject" anyone from a different ethnic group? Another Imus fan...
rantonrave@mail.com - 11 Apr 2007 09:17 GMT >In article <1176091353.286475.304790 >@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, rantonrave@mail.com says...
>>That's true of all UP students, regardless of their race or income, >>and we found so few of their graduates who applied for jobs were >>qualified that we now automatically reject anyone who lists UP on >>their resume.
>Do you also "automatically reject" anyone from a different ethnic group? What's my ethnic group?
>Another Imus fan... I couldn't stand him ever since I first saw him in the 1970s as the announcer on Geraldo Rivera's late night ABC show.
Fred W - 11 Apr 2007 23:42 GMT >>Another Imus fan... > > I couldn't stand him ever since I first saw him in the 1970s as the > announcer on Geraldo Rivera's late night ABC show. There are quite a few radio celebrities that I have a really hard time figuring out why they matter. Imus is one. Howard and Rush too. I can understand how each would have a small niche following, but how does that propel them into the national spotlight? They are all turd balls in their own rights. Strictly my opinion, mind you...
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Wickeddoll® - 12 Apr 2007 01:15 GMT "Fred W" :
>>>Another Imus fan... >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > propel them into the national spotlight? They are all turd balls in their > own rights. Strictly my opinion, mind you... Stern doesn't really bother me, since he usually picks on people who should be able to take it, but the others you mentioned have manage success I can't fathom for a second.
Natalie
Charles C. - 10 Apr 2007 01:37 GMT > On Feb 21, 8:46 pm, "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencu...@my-deja.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > think > somebody's money is likely being swallowed up by U of P. What has this got to do with cars bigot?
Sorry, you probably don't know what a bigot is ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigot
UoP sounds like a damn good place.
C.
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bigjim@backpacker.com - 12 Apr 2007 02:00 GMT A degree is a degree. For professions where pay is based on degree U of P and others are fine. You pay you get degree you make more!
On Apr 8, 8:35 pm, yerfrien...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 21, 8:46 pm, "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencu...@my-deja.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > think > somebody's money is likely being swallowed up by U of P. jor - 09 Apr 2007 14:57 GMT >> Hi, >> I am in grad school and am working on an assignment about cars. > > No, you're not, unless you go to a fake college, like the "University" > of Phoenix. One of my kids as well as two of my co-workers attended the University of Phoenix. They are typical of UofP students in that they were working full time and could only attend at night. The classes are generally taught by people working in the field. Classes are often broken into working groups of students who arrange among themselves to meet and produce whatever product the class demands. Having graduated many years ago from a "regular" college, it seems to me the UofP approach may be superior. Generally speaking, the students are mature, eager, volunteer learners willing to sacrifice their time and money to get a degree. Most of those attending with my son were paying their own way, being helped by their employers or getting some kind of student aid. jor
Wickeddoll® - 09 Apr 2007 22:46 GMT "jor" ... "larry moe 'n curly"
>>> Hi, >>> I am in grad school and am working on an assignment about cars. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > employers or getting some kind of student aid. > jor Thanks for the input. I still have my doubts about any school that advertises. Something not quite right about that, somehow.
Natalie
rantonrave@mail.com - 12 Apr 2007 11:23 GMT >One of my kids as well as two of my co-workers attended the University >of Phoenix. They are typical of UofP students in that they were working [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >superior. Generally speaking, the students are mature, eager, volunteer >learners willing to sacrifice their time and money to get a degree. UP is so bad that we don't reimburse employees for it.
johannes - 09 Apr 2007 12:46 GMT > Hi, > I am in grad school and am working on an assignment about cars. My [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Check out the survey at:
> Thanks! > Becca What cheek to post this across newsgroups and then call it "research". Your grad school should be ashamed. It stinks.
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