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Car Forum / Saab Cars / March 2007Fuel Tank Baffles Cause Stall?
Hi. I'd appreciate any thoughts on this problem. I own a 2005 9-5 (50,500 miles). On a recent trip, the engine started surging, losing power, the engine light came on, then the engine quit. After resting the car a few minutes, it started up and we went another 30 miles before the situation repeated. After another rest, we made it home. The Saab dealer kept the car a few days, trying to replicate the problem, which they finally were able to do yesterday. They diagnosed it as loose baffles in the fuel tank, and will replace the tank ($1000.) I trust the shop guys, but I have never heard of a tank causing this kind of problem. Has anyone? Are there other more plausible causes? I really appreciate any thoughts you may have. Ya rick sounds like a fuel pump problem to me. never heard of loose baffles, get a second opinion. Good luck papa > Ya rick sounds like a fuel pump problem to me. never heard of loose > baffles, get a second opinion. Good luck papa If the check engine light stays on, it might be the throttle body mounted on the engine if the car is continually driving like a bag of spanners. It's fairly easy for a mechanic to reset the throttle body, but it's expensive to get replaced, even if you get a second hand one. Try the cheaper options first, e.g. fuel pump / filter, injector cleaners in the fuel, etc. Never heard of the baffles problem. How much do you trust the mechanics? hth kds :-) On Mar 21, 10:20 pm, "kingdoodlesquat" <neggerschegg...@negatseacatspam.com> wrote: > > Ya rick sounds like a fuel pump problem to me. never heard of loose > > baffles, get a second opinion. Good luck papa [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > hth kds :-) The fuel pump must be properly oriented or you will have problems. On mine it must have the input port facing the 135 degree azimuth direction with the front of the car being zero of course. Also could be a bad fuel pump. > Hi. I'd appreciate any thoughts on this problem. I own a 2005 9-5 > (50,500 miles). On a recent trip, the engine started surging, losing [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I really appreciate any thoughts you may have. Sounds very much like the failed fuel tank pump failure I had many years ago. Everything works fine until you need fuel in larger quntities (going up a steep hill, for instance) or it gets especially hot. Hard to diagnose because all the usual test appear normal. On Mar 22, 2:33 pm, moja...@mojaveg.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com (Everett M. Greene) wrote: > ric...@comcast.net writes: > > Hi. I'd appreciate any thoughts on this problem. I own a 2005 9-5 [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Thanks...I asked the tech about the fuel pump...he was confident it was okay, and the problem was the loose baffles in the fuel tank blocking fuel flow...the techs have been pretty good in the past. In any case, I picked up the car today after the new fuel tank was installed. No stalls, although it seems to run a little rough, and idles around 800 rpm, which seems high. We'll see. I did contact Saab, made my case, and they are reviewing, with a decision expected any time. Thanks again. let us know if saab does anything for you. I would be upset if I had a car less then 2 years old and had to spend 1g on loose baffles. I wonder what purpose these baffles serve? that gets me thinking about removing baffles from my saab. good luck. > On Mar 22, 2:33 pm, moja...@mojaveg.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com (Everett M. > Greene) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Thanks again. > let us know if saab does anything for you. I would be upset if I had a car > less then 2 years old and had to spend 1g on loose baffles. I wonder what > purpose these baffles serve? that gets me thinking about removing baffles > from my saab. Well, in our water tankers for the fire department, they eliminate the "slosh". Not bad when the tank is full, or empty (obviously) but let me tell you, a fire tanker with a half-full tank, with 1800 gallons of water sloshing back and forth, will get your attention. That's a LOT of weight. I'd imagine the baffles in the Saab are more for keeping the fuel near the pump than handling; 15 gallons is noticable but not THAT much slosh. > > ric...@comcast.net writes: > > > Hi. I'd appreciate any thoughts on this problem. I own a 2005 9-5 [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > was okay, and the problem was the loose baffles in the fuel tank > blocking fuel flow...the techs have been pretty good in the past. Two different dealers and some good independent repair places kept saying it wasn't the fuel pump in my case, also. > In > any case, I picked up the car today after the new fuel tank was > installed. No stalls, although it seems to run a little rough, and > idles around 800 rpm, which seems high. We'll see. I did contact Saab, > made my case, and they are reviewing, with a decision expected any > time. > Hi. I'd appreciate any thoughts on this problem. I own a 2005 9-5 > (50,500 miles). On a recent trip, the engine started surging, losing [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I really appreciate any thoughts you may have. No 3 year manufacturer's warranty in the US? C.  SignaturePlease remove _removeme_ to reply. >>Hi. I'd appreciate any thoughts on this problem. I own a 2005 9-5 >>(50,500 miles). On a recent trip, the engine started surging, losing [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > C. Yes, there is. 3 Yr 50k miles. This should definitely have been covered by warranty Signature-Fred W >>> Hi. I'd appreciate any thoughts on this problem. I own a 2005 9-5 >>> (50,500 miles). On a recent trip, the engine started surging, losing [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Yes, there is. 3 Yr 50k miles. This should definitely have been > covered by warranty In which case, good will alone should have covered the 500 miles ... let alone the dealer should think the customer (at this rate of mileage) will soon be buying another car. Too late I guess, since the OP has now paid them :-( Charles SignaturePlease remove _removeme_ to reply. >> Yes, there is. 3 Yr 50k miles. This should definitely have been >> covered by warranty I thought it was 4 years? Have they cut back? >In which case, good will alone should have covered the 500 miles ... let >alone the dealer should think the customer (at this rate of mileage) >will soon be buying another car. > >Too late I guess, since the OP has now paid them :-( No, Saab will correct it if the dealer has charged for warranty repairs. It's also a violation of Federal Law, so I'm sure the dealer will be happy to participate. FWIW - I've never heard of this problem before in any Saab. Seems suspect. >>> Yes, there is. 3 Yr 50k miles. This should definitely have been >>> covered by warranty [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > FWIW - I've never heard of this problem before in any Saab. Seems > suspect. An extra reason for the OP to pursue under warranty as it may have a follow on and more cost until it is resolved. SignaturePlease remove _removeme_ to reply.
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